Roquila 1,335 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Almost everything that has to do with Russia or Arab extremists is fishy in my opinion. Women rights(none at all), Gay discrimination, Corruption and Slavery are just a few things that come into my mind that totally describe the former or the latter.Call me a Racist or a Religion hater, i don't care. I care about people. They're dying. Take your wife and daughter to the World Cup in Qatar, it'll be fun. Your wife wears a skirt - Will probably get hit by stones.Your daughter showed a bit of cleavage - Shame on you and your family, she's a slut, our women here only wear ninja clothes and they don't even show an ankle. Oh, and then she will probably get raped because the cleavege is like an invitation.You're gay? You enjoy football? World Cup held in Russia is the place for you.Take your gay partner and get stabbed in public. Almost all of my friends are Muslims, they dont really bother me. I have no hate against Muslims. I hate the extremists.I play a lot of online games with Russians, i don't hate them. I Enjoy my time with them. It's not about where you're from or what your religion is, it's about Who you are. And if you(in general, not pointing out to anybody) think that slavery is good then get your head checked or just jump off a cliff. How can someone enjoy a World Cup held in Qatar when they know that too many people already died building these things. Hjp said that things are better now. That's good but it doesn't change the fact that too many died already. /rant over.EDIT: I forgot the most important thing. Blatter is a twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think Alex probably has his ban hammer at the ready... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Alright, I think we've had enough racist, xenophobic, extremist and pro-slavery posts to last us a while....Let's NEVER 'discuss' this again. Topic locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,310 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Newsnight tonight -this very subject, FIFA Corruption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Uh oh, people aren't going to be happy.Fabricated information was used by UK-based Sunday Times to level corruption charges against Qatar’s successful bid to host the Football World Cup 2022, a former top official of the FIFA has said.Michel Zen-Ruffinen, former General Secretary of FIFA, told INSIDEWorldFootball.com that he was certain that the information he had received from a European source [football official] was a fabrication, referring to the rumours of vote collusion in the race for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosting rights. “Today, I am certain that the information I received from a European source [football official] was a fabrication,” said Zen-Ruffinen in an exclusive interview with INSIDEWorldFootball.com.The former General Secretary of FIFA is critical of English journalists who misled him. “They portrayed themselves as marketing consultants who worked for a non-European bid [fair to assume it was not an Asian bid] and offered me a consulting agreement that I signed after reviewing the credentials they showed me. It was a proper setup and of course I never got paid for the work I did,” he said.“The alleged Spain/Portugal and Russia/Qatar collusion, which was published in The Sunday Times was a fabrication, of that I am certain today.” The European member of a bid team, who offered him the information on vote collusion did so with the purpose of him sharing it with ‘marketing consultants’ (who were journalists) had fabricated that story, IWF said. “That European now works for a major media empire.” Regarding his source, Zen-Ruffinen said: “There were allegations of collusion coming from all over the world. Those rumours were not credible.”“One of the persons (who was representing the marketing agency of the bid committee) I spoke to has gone back to the Press,” he told INSIDEWorldFootball.com, exposing the conspiracy behind the Sunday Times campaign. The collusion story was published by The Sunday Times in 2010 after a so-called sting operation and it caused much a stir in the soccer world. The Spain-Portugal and Qatar World Cup bids were subjected to an investigation by FIFA’s ethics committee following allegations that they agreed to trade votes but they were cleared of any wrongdoing after no evidence was found.According to Zen-Ruffinen, he was approached by the marketing agency of a bid committee with an offer of appointment as a consultant, which he agreed to after due consideration. He said the information he collected from two sources- one in Africa and the other in Europe—was misused by journalists who posed as employees of the marketing agency. He said his conversation was recorded without his knowledge, which is an illegal practice in Switzerland. Explaining the setup, the former senior FIFA official said in the first place he was provided with “fabricated information” which was used as source for the Sunday Times story.“That was a time when people were exchanging information as two bids, one for the 2018 and the other for the 2022 World Cup were being decided at the same time.”On the recent allegations raised by The Sunday Times, Zen-Ruffinen, who left FIFA in 2002, said until clear evidence is provided, bribing charges should be stopped. http://www.gulf-times.com/Mobile/Qatar/178/details/396066/%E2%80%98Fabricated-info%E2%80%99-used-to-malign-Qatar%E2%80%99s-bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Uh oh, people aren't going to be happy.Any other sources for that story apart from a newspaper called 'Gulf Times' whose chairman is Abdullah bin Hamad Al Attiyah?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I understand. Too many words at the same times. Baby steps. Uh oh.American sources. Still mad that no WC for them either..http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/42-news/14822-june-10-2014-interviewBut then again it's them. The video might be Photoshopped guys. His voice could be Hammam's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I understand. Too many words at the same times. Baby steps. Uh oh.American sources. Still mad that no WC for them either..http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/42-news/14822-june-10-2014-interviewBut then again it's them. The video might be Photoshopped guys. His voice could be Hammam's. So any reputable sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 So any reputable sources? Nothing other than an interview with the guy himself. I'm sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Nothing other than an interview with the guy himself. I'm sorry. That would be the former Secretary General of FIFA....I'm amazed that this leading light in the world of free media, the Gulf Times, is the only news outlet going with this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 That would be the former Secretary General of FIFA....I'm amazed that this leading light in the world of free media, the Gulf Times, is the only news outlet going with this story.Well the western media aren't going to publish it due to their "agenda" against an oil rich country hosting the games. LETS INVADE THEM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Still knocking on an empty door.http://www.gulf-times.com/qatar/178/details/396384/uk-media-reports-on-qatar-2022-triggered-by-jealousy,-hatredAllegations by The Sunday Times against Fifa and Qatar's successful bid to host the 2022 Football World Cup are "sordid and personal, not about football", a leading communications strategist has said.In an interview with BBC Newshour, Michael Holtzman, president of BLJ Worldwide, said the conspiracy against Qatar 2022 was managed by "troublemakers who have no solid evidence" to prove their charges.BLJ is an international public relations firm with offices in New York, Washington DC, London and Doha.According to him, one of the reasons for UK newspapers to target Qatar may be Britain's "non-acceptance of a State which was its protectorate to have the honour of hosting the World Cup".He said the allegations were not based on any facts. "Britain is unhappy of being the country that has invented the football but has not hosted the World Cup since 1966. This is one of the reasons for releasing these untrue accusations by the British newspapers against Qatar and its World Cup file," Holtzman said.He also said the "surly campaign" against Qatar by The Sunday Times may have been triggered by jealousy as Robert Murdoch, media baron and the owner of The Times, was not happy with the great development and growth of beIN SPORTS , the widely popular Al Jazeera Sports channel.beIN SPORTS has the exclusive broadcasting rights of the most important world tournaments and championships, including the Fifa World Cup, currently under way in Brazil."Another reason for the campaign is that Joseph Blatter, the Fifa president, is not happy with Bin Hammam who contested for the presidency and tried to dethrone him. This attempt was also not desired at that time by the committee which was considering the Qatar file."Holtzman added that the call for investigations into the Qatar file was driven by certain people who could not accept the fact that Qatar, an Arab Muslim country, was going to host the World Cup 2022. But he said any such investigation will be in favour of Qatar. He mentioned that the "lynch mob mentality" of The Sunday Times was triggered by racism and hatred against Arabs and Muslims. "This racism, however is not direct, but a move to reflect negative concepts about the Arabs," he said.Local Arabic daily Arrayah said Holtzman told the BBC that the Qatar file was presented and managed according to the best standards of impartiality and transparency.Referring to The Sunday Times report that there were thousands of emails concerning the Qatar file, he said: "These electronic messages are not money put in an envelope as a bribe and are not an important issue. The whole campaign and attacks are organised by certain persons engaged in the media activities and businesses in Britain."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------But it's good to see them fight back. Should be proud of themselves.http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/15/uk-soccer-world-qatar-gulf-idUKKBN0EQ0II20140615Gulf states rallied behind Qatar following allegations published by Britain's Sunday Times newspaper that a senior Qatari football official made payments to win the country's bid to host the 2022 World Cup.Qatar has vehemently denied the accusations.Secretary General Abdullatif al-Zayani of the Gulf Cooperation Council - which includes Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman - attacked what he called a "biased media campaign". "The Secretary General affirmed the GCC's ... complete support in the face of all doubters and haters and everyone who is attempting to lessen (Qatar's) right to host this historic global sporting event," the GCC statement said on Sunday.Qatar won its bid through "honest competition," he said.If corruption was proved, Qatar could be stripped of the Cup, or at least face a challenge to its position as host either through a re-vote or other processes.The World Cup has never been held in the Middle East before.Qatar on Saturday defended its campaign and rejected the corruption allegations which it said were timed to coincide with an investigation by FIFA, world soccer's governing body, into the bidding process for the 2022 World Cup and the one before it in Russia in 2018.The GCC statement will provide welcome support for Qatar. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain withdrew envoys from their neighbour in March over its backing of the Muslim Brotherhood in the region.---------------------------------------------------More http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/14/uk-soccer-world-qatar-fifa-idUKKBN0EP14P20140614http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/qatar-bids-to-defend-world-cup-allegations-272176.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 .He also said the "surly campaign" against Qatar by The Sunday Times may have been triggered by jealousy as Robert Murdoch, media baron and the owner of The Times, was not happy with the great development and growth of beIN SPORTS , the widely popular Al Jazeera Sports channel.So your source is a media outlet who can't get the name of Rupert Murdoch correct? One of the most important figures in world media, and they get his name wrong?Bravo young sir, bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So your source is a media outlet who can't get the name of Rupert Murdoch correct? One of the most important figures in world media, and they get his name wrong?Bravo young sir, bravo. Heh - it's just general deflection Don't be too hard on those guys. Having worked in the UAE - the media is very controlled and they believe they can still control the populace via TV - hence the restrictions and filtering of Internet.Any country that does not allow 'unblocked' Internet access - has something to hide and seeks to control its citizens... The UK is included in this with its ban on torrent sites (not as far up the scale, but a worrying trend)...Even Stevie Wonder can see the corruption here - it's not going away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Better news.http://gulfbusiness.com/2014/06/ooredoo-ceo-confident-qatar-will-host-2022-fifa-world-cup/#.U56sfnZ6a0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Better news.http://gulfbusiness.com/2014/06/ooredoo-ceo-confident-qatar-will-host-2022-fifa-world-cup/#.U56sfnZ6a0MEvery time you post a link I get this sense of deja vu, that I'm going to Google the source of a quote in your link and see something that undermines the credibility of the comments being made. I wonder if that will be the case this time.Goes to link...sees source of comments are the CEO of a telecoms firm called Ooredoo.Googles Ooredoo and finds Wikipedia article about them.Looks at who their chairman is....Saud bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Abdullah bin Jassim bin Muhammed Al Thani (born February 28, 1966) is a Qatari prince[1] and former minister of Culture, Arts and HeritageRinse...repeat....rinse....repeat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Every time you post a link I get this sense of deja vu, that I'm going to Google the source of a quote in your link and see something that undermines the credibility of the comments being made. I wonder if that will be the case this time.Goes to link...sees source of comments are the CEO of a telecoms firm called Ooredoo.Googles Ooredoo and finds Wikipedia article about them.Looks at who their chairman is....Saud bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Abdullah bin Jassim bin Muhammed Al Thani (born February 28, 1966) is a Qatari prince[1] and former minister of Culture, Arts and HeritageRinse...repeat....rinse....repeat.... He has 13 names. Who needs 13 names? 5 of his names are bin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 He has 13 names. Who needs 13 names? 5 of his names are bin!Bin means son of. So, his name is Saud, his father's Muhammad, his granddad's Ali...etc. You can go back as far as you want. And Al Thani at the end means the second.So, basically, his name is Saud the second.Not as glamorous as Saud bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Abdullah bin Jassim bin Muhammed Al Thani, though, you must admit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Neutral media too is a good sign - http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/94460/gcc-chief-blasts-campaign-against-qatar-hosting-of-world-cup-22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Neutral media too is a good sign - http://www.antaranews.com/en/news/94460/gcc-chief-blasts-campaign-against-qatar-hosting-of-world-cup-22I think it speaks to your naivety that you use terms like 'neutral media' when there is no media without bias anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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