Paulinho

[Sheva. 5,373]

The difference is when you buy world class players in their prime, you are taking a calculated risk.

That's different to buying average players in the hope that they exceed expectation. The former bases judgement on logic and sound reasoning while the latter is based on fallacy and superstitions.

You don't make stupid and wild decisions just because nothing in life is a guarantee besides death and taxes.

You think teams throw millions away based on superstitions?

Paulinho like you previously described is a Mourinho type player. And he could be available for a reasonable fee.

I'm sure he's not the only midfielder on Chelsea's wishlist, but at the end of the day, you can't always get what you want (Vidal) and might have to settle.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Honestly it seems like the same 6 or 7 faces are constantly popping up to deride anything the club does. This is not a ball-tingler of a deal and I don't think anyone is saying it is, but it seems like plenty of us have enough faith in the club to simply wait and see what happens here. Any transfer fees at this point are purely speculative as well so it's impossible to tell exactly what type of value we'd be getting.

Remember when the Matic deal was first being mooted - fees of €40 million were being chucked around. Despite what some might have you believe, our club isn't staffed by idiots. The reason we're talking about one midfielder being needed is because the current guys already signed Matic for a bargain price.

Last year we signed Van Ginkel as well, and he needs a chance this year. Then you've got Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek a little below that who are some of the brightest prospects of their generation.

Now of course there's an argument that we could sign other players for more, but who? Is Modric available as one miserable soul suggested? No. Even if he was he's in a whole other transfer demo. Vidal? Probably not. Cabaye? No. Kovacic? Another young-un who needs developing. Pogba? United were told no. Kroos? Wages are at least double and I'm not entirely sure he fits what we want.

Again, no-one is saying that this guy is a dead cert to be the player we need, but it is unfair to judge him solely by this season. To me he seems like a more intelligent Ramires, but he can also look ponderous on the ball and a little lacking in cojones. He has tremendous upside if Levy actually sells him for a realistic price and he's not a massive financial burden to us long-term and in that regard he could be likened to Guarin.

Mourinho backs himself to get the absolute most out of his players though and I think with guys like Guarin and Paulinho who have a lot of technical and physical gifts, it's like a red rag to a bull.

[Pizy 18,858]

Some people in here are acting like Paulinho is a Charlie Adam level player completely unfit for a PL side.

[didierforever 7,349]

Now of course there's an argument that we could sign other players for more, but who? Is Modric available as one miserable soul suggested? No. Even if he was he's in a whole other transfer demo. Vidal? Probably not. Cabaye? No. Kovacic? Another young-un who needs developing. Pogba? United were told no. Kroos? Wages are at least double and I'm not entirely sure he fits what we want.

rakitic?

[sherry33 234]

Oh no, it's one of those nightmare transfers. Someone please tell me we arent interested in this average Shitenham player. There are a lot of better ways to spend our money than using it on this lazy player.

[dee25 1,044]

rakitic?

Whoa whoa whoa. Hang on.....

Are you telling me that there're other affordable central midfielders besides Paulinho?!

Damn. Who knew!

But can this Rakitic fellow spray play around? Because Paulinho can spray play around....

[didierforever 7,349]

Woah woah woah. Hang on.....

Are you telling me that they're other affordable central midfielders besides Paulinho?!

Damn. Who knew!

But can this Rakitic fellow spray play around? Because Paulinho can spray play around....

sadly rakitic has a 30mil BO (apparently). but if we sell luiz, we should be buying him.

what i have seen of paulinho in tottenham is nothing we dont have in rambo. rambo has had a terrible season, but having 2 players of the same nature is weird for me. dont think we are in this... just normal transfer bullshit.

[lucio 5,418]

i think i remember a ramires-paulinho midfield getting dominated by cleverly and wilshire. it was really bad.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Paulinho is so shit, even his highlight reel is pathetic. When Ramires finds his form again,he is heads and shoulders above Paulinho. The only Brazilian CM, I'd consider to sign is Hernanes, even though he will be 29 this month. Lamps is 10 years older than Paulinho, still has better stats. Even defensively. Lamps has more clearances, blocks more shots, intercepts more often and is less often dribbled past (and Lamps gets dribbled past a lot, cos he never tackles), Offensively lamps has less turnovers, more precis shots, more assists, more goals, and is harder to disposses, also he has more key passes and chances created. Why should we sign a player, who is so average, that even in his prime he brings less to the game, than a 36-year old, who does not even make the bench here regularly.

[dee25 1,044]

sadly rakitic has a 30mil BO (apparently). but if we sell luiz, we should be buying him.

what i have seen of paulinho in tottenham is nothing we dont have in rambo. rambo has had a terrible season, but having 2 players of the same nature is weird for me. dont think we are in this... just normal transfer bullshit.

Amen.

Paulinho for £20 million vs Rakitic for £24 million...........I know which one would be the more astute signing, and it ain't Paulinho.

Why should we sign a player, who is so average, that even in his prime he brings less to the game, than a 36-year old, who does not even make the bench here regularly.

Because he sprays play around and stuff.

[Pizy 18,858]

I think TalkChelsea will have to go into "Performance Mode" if we sign Paulinho.

The rage will be immense and will crash the servers.

[Nike 373]

Paulinho is so shit, even his highlight reel is pathetic. When Ramires finds his form again,he is heads and shoulders above Paulinho. The only Brazilian CM, I'd consider to sign is Hernanes, even though he will be 29 this month. Lamps is 10 years older than Paulinho, still has better stats. Even defensively. Lamps has more clearances, blocks more shots, intercepts more often and is less often dribbled past (and Lamps gets dribbled past a lot, cos he never tackles), Offensively lamps has less turnovers, more precis shots, more assists, more goals, and is harder to disposses, also he has more key passes and chances created. Why should we sign a player, who is so average, that even in his prime he brings less to the game, than a 36-year old, who does not even make the bench here regularly.

Hernanes has sucked at Inter....

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

There are people here who actually believe that Jose wants him and hence are so for this move. Come on people lets all be honest here, this deal is not going to happen because he plays for a club which is controlled by Levy- one of the biggest cunts in football so there is no way he'll allow because he'll demand an outrageous sum.

IF though he does agree to sell for a fair amount then do we really need someone like him? Granted he has premier league experience but wouldn't it be better to consider the other numerous options available.

For me this guy should be a Plan D at best.

[bababoom 4,478]

Because our board nor Mourinho have ever made a bad signing before?

That's not my point, you have people on this forum saying he's awful, what i'm saying is i'd rather trust the professionals who have scouted him for more than one season. This is his fist season in England for gods sake, obviously we'd all like a true playmaker, but i'm not going to write him off before actually seeing him play for us (if he does join us, that is).

[Jcar92 66]

Dear God... You guys don't know how good he is... Ok he is in bad shape right now... But this is because of the style of football of Tottenham! Just take a look at Coutinho... After he moved from Inter to Liverpool, he turned out to be another Player! And i believe its the same for him! I am a supporter of Corinthians, so i watched him for 3 years and i say for sure that he is good! Look his matches for Brazil(confederations cup) and Corinthians(libertadores - South american Ucl)... He is another player. And its his first year at England, coming directly from Brazil... He is the kind that shows up in big matches! Can't wait to see him wearing Blue.

Just ask @Rmpr, @Henrique, @Dion and @Barbara, all supporters from rivals of Corinthians in Brazil...