hjperdeath 2,226 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 BVB and Atleti aren't hated because they are the model club. They don't splash cash and have created many stars. Along with that BVB play one of the most entertaining football. Fast, quick passing etc.Where are BVB now? Where was Atleti a few years ago? They aren't a model club in the present generation. They don't splash cash cause they don't have money. They create starts is stupid. All their players except Koke have been bought or procured on a free transfer. Your footballing knowledge is shockingly poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Carvajal left during Mourinho's tenure. Varane was the only youngster opponents saw play under Mourinho. Anyway the thing is nobody's really sees any youngsters play for Chelsea which is why they dislike us. And that is a pretty sound reason.That is a mere teardrop in the ocean if you compare it with success. Chelsea were the most successful club in England for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Atletico are all down to shrewd strategy. Their head scout is a gem of a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppen 934 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 What that article shows is why some people admire Bayern. How well the club is set up etc.Some people, perhaps. But I don't care how well it is set up and etc, I and all my real life friends still hate them. Hate doesn't need to be logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Dortmund didn't get much hate when they were successful, nor did Bayern get much hate last season.I'm sorry I maybe phrased it wrong I meant youngsters in the club.Mate if they are playing guys who have been bought for 6 mil of other clubs, then we aren't even playing them. Nacho has made FAR more appearances than Kalas. Ake played more games with an interim manager than a manager who's supposed to be here for the long term. Nobody's saying to play them regularly but FFS Ake's made ZERO appearances this season. YEA ZERO!And these are Kalas' appearances89th Minute sub vs Arsenal in C1 Cup,89th Minute sub vs Gala in CL,Oh but he made one START vs Liverpool! Wow we really use more youngsters than Madrid!And here's Lewis Baker: 87th Minute sub vs Derby County.....^^^^^^^Do you really expect opponents not to hate a club with stats like that?I'm sorry I maybe phrased it wrong I meant youngsters in the club.Mate if they are playing guys who have been bought for 6 mil of other clubs, then we aren't even playing them. Nacho has made FAR more appearances than Kalas. Ake played more games with an interim manager than a manager who's supposed to be here for the long term. Nobody's saying to play them regularly but FFS Ake's made ZERO appearances this season. YEA ZERO!And these are Kalas' appearances89th Minute sub vs Arsenal in C1 Cup,89th Minute sub vs Gala in CL,Oh but he made one START vs Liverpool! Wow we really use more youngsters than Madrid!And here's Lewis Baker: 87th Minute sub vs Derby County.....^^^^^^^Do you really expect opponents not to hate a club with stats like that?youngsters? hmmm.. we definitely dont have those do we? hazard 23oscar 22willian 25schurrle 23salah 21.but a 24 year old nacho, a 22 year old casemiro and a 22 year old carvajal are younsters. i mean serious wtf!!!i mean why dont we include azpi then. he is 24 too!!!!! i dont expect opponent to not hate us even when we play youth. oh wait!!! we played a youth player against pool at anfield and won the fucking match. yet we got hate. contradictory-much?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y123CFC 69 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Not really on topic, (sort of is) but I don't understand all the neutrals who say Mourinho is disliked by Madrid fans.Trust me, I've come across a lot on twitter who still love Jose and miss him. Also not forgetting all the banners etc at his last game at the Bernabeu.The stuff about all Real Madrid players turning on him was also exaggerated. When he left, I remember the massive thanks from Khedira, Ozil, Coentrao, Callejon, etc about how much he believed in them and that they will always be thankfulRonaldo and Casillas have also since spoken up and said everything is forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 We need to understand the power of the media. If the media wants you to be hated, you will be hated, no matter what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 A bit of a soul searching and moment of brutal honesty.Can anyone give argument why we don't deserve to be one of the most hated clubs in Europe. With the combination of sugar daddy route to stardom, Our senseless transfer spending which generally came from the money that wasn't generated by the club which meant we were able to outbid most clubs for players. some believe that us and madrid were single highhandedly responsible for the first wave of wage and transfer inflation in the first half of last decade.Then there's the constant managerial sacking, lack of youth development and integration, The believe that we ruined the careers of many promising player (that's open to debate) , ugly football,The Jose Mourinho,John Terry and Cole factor, The reputation that preceded our fans from the 70s and 80s.. . . . .The question I will ask again is, is our status as one of the most hated clubs in Europe justified or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 A bit of a soul searching and moment of brutal honesty.Can anyone give argument why we don't deserve to be one of the most hated clubs in Europe. With the combination of sugar daddy route to stardom, Our senseless transfer spending which generally came from the money that wasn't generated by the club which meant we were able to outbid most clubs for players. some believe that us and madrid were single highhandedly responsible for the first wave of wage and transfer inflation in the first half of last decade.Then there's the constant managerial sacking, lack of youth development and integration, The believe that we ruined the careers of many promising player (that's open to debate) , ugly football,The Jose Mourinho,John Terry and Cole factor, The reputation that preceded our fans from the 70s and 80s.. . . . .The question I will ask again is, is our status as one of the most hated clubs in Europe justified or not?Cole factor? Which is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 A bit of a soul searching and moment of brutal honesty.Can anyone give argument why we don't deserve to be one of the most hated clubs in Europe. With the combination of sugar daddy route to stardom, Our senseless transfer spending which generally came from the money that wasn't generated by the club which meant we were able to outbid most clubs for players. some believe that us and madrid were single highhandedly responsible for the first wave of wage and transfer inflation in the first half of last decade.Then there's the constant managerial sacking, lack of youth development and integration, The believe that we ruined the careers of many promising player (that's open to debate) , ugly football,The Jose Mourinho,John Terry and Cole factor, The reputation that preceded our fans from the 70s and 80s.. . . . .The question I will ask again is, is our status as one of the most hated clubs in Europe justified or not?Yeah. That's one way to look at things, but I'm pretty sure one can point out such things for almost all succpesful clubs- infusion of cash, failed high-profile transfers, the not-so-cool player factor you talked about, blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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