mccg 1,528 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'd keep him at Cfc nxt season,looking at our defence options at the minute i think we need him,can learn from JT also with the future in mind also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'd keep him at Cfc nxt season,looking at our defence options at the minute i think we need him,can learn from JT also with the future in mind alsoNot enough playing time to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 With Jt&Cahill/Ivanavic only as cb's he will/would get enough playing time and learn from Jt/Cahill at training also i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 does that mean no loan spell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I would like to see Mou do a ''Varane'' with this kid. There is potential, lets see if there is proper mentality too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 A loan at Sunderland? Oh boy.So we loan out Kalas and Zouma which means we're not trying to integrate a Terry replacement this season. Slightly baffled by this, we know JT is a consistent performer but his decline will be noticeable. Back up we have Ivanovic but surely we should have either Kalas or Zouma as a back up too, particularly in less significant games.. Unless that's Aké, I'm slightly confused by this. Term-X and Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 JT, Cahill, Ivanovic and Zouma as our options at CB next season please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Awesome!Awesome? They used Carvalho and Abidal there last season and they both renewed their contracts, as well as having young promising players like Borja Gomez, Isimat-Mirin and they also signed Aymen Abdennour permanently, as well as a few other guys as well if I remember rightly. They have too many CBs, theres no point in him going there if he isn't going to play every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Heard that he could play really well too in RB position. If I could wish, hopefully Omeruo will be included in squad too. Yes both are very young, but they are quality and could learn from senior players ongoing. They won't play as a regular starter for a team like Chelsea anyway, but could be a useful backup. Then we don't need to sign a high profile CB. Could 'save' the money for someone like Pogba.A new LB, Ake - Cahill, Terry, Ivan, Omeruo - Azpi and Zouma could do the job. 2 players every position, with Ivan, Azpi and Zouma could play in more than one position, could well cope any injury or suspensions. Also why I wish for Omeruo because Kalas has been loaned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Heard that he could play really well too in RB position. If I could wish, hopefully Omeruo will be included in squad too. Yes both are very young, but they are quality and could learn from senior players ongoing. They won't play as a regular starter for a team like Chelsea anyway, but could be a useful backup. Then we don't need to sign a high profile CB. Could 'save' the money for someone like Pogba.A new LB, Ake - Cahill, Terry, Ivan, Omeruo - Azpi and Zouma could do the job. 2 players every position, with Ivan, Azpi and Zouma could play in more than one position, could well cope any injury or suspensions. Also why I wish for Omeruo because Kalas has been loaned out.I don't see why we need to have young players as back up players, they don't play every week where in contrast they could be out on loan playing every week for a club, developing, learning, gaining experience.Look at Kalas last year, how many games did he start? He didn't even start against Swindon in the Capital One Cup for god sakes, he started 2 games (Liverpool and Cardiff I think), ironically in the last 4 or 5 matches of the season. He would have benefitted from a season on loan with Ivanovic coming in at CB when we had an injury/suspension. Theres a reason why young players don't make it here, because when we have them in the squad they don't play. McEachran was never going to displace Lampard or Mikel or Ramires or Meireles under AVB on a regular basis, how often were they injured as well? Only Lamps was injured a bit and he was in and out of the team. Kalas was never going to displace Cahill, Terry or Luiz or even Branna if he played at CB. Young players at big clubs are generally better going on loan than sitting in the squad.There are a few exceptions, maybe Marco will be a regular next year but again did anyone expect him to displace Lampard or Ramires or Mikel regularly for Chelsea? Before we signed Matic, we were light in CM so maybe he would have had more of a chance to play but now we've added Fabregas as well as losing Lampard and everyone thinking we should try and sign Pogba or someone to replace Ramires... so how is he meant to get a game? I think Marco will be used as a rotation player next season to be honest but thats because I think we won't sign any more midfield players and Mikel could possibly not feature as much. Zouma definitely needs to go on loan, hes only 19, he needs to play every week to keep improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I don't see why we need to have young players as back up players, they don't play every week where in contrast they could be out on loan playing every week for a club, developing, learning, gaining experience.Look at Kalas last year, how many games did he start? He didn't even start against Swindon in the Capital One Cup for god sakes, he started 2 games (Liverpool and Cardiff I think), ironically in the last 4 or 5 matches of the season. He would have benefitted from a season on loan with Ivanovic coming in at CB when we had an injury/suspension. Theres a reason why young players don't make it here, because when we have them in the squad they don't play. McEachran was never going to displace Lampard or Mikel or Ramires or Meireles under AVB on a regular basis, how often were they injured as well? Only Lamps was injured a bit and he was in and out of the team. Kalas was never going to displace Cahill, Terry or Luiz or even Branna if he played at CB. Young players at big clubs are generally better going on loan than sitting in the squad.There are a few exceptions, maybe Marco will be a regular next year but again did anyone expect him to displace Lampard or Ramires or Mikel regularly for Chelsea? Before we signed Matic, we were light in CM so maybe he would have had more of a chance to play but now we've added Fabregas as well as losing Lampard and everyone thinking we should try and sign Pogba or someone to replace Ramires... so how is he meant to get a game? I think Marco will be used as a rotation player next season to be honest but thats because I think we won't sign any more midfield players and Mikel could possibly not feature as much. Zouma definitely needs to go on loan, hes only 19, he needs to play every week to keep improving. That's Kalas case is mainly because he is injured at the start of the season. And after that he is struggle to make it, also because the team are getting solid by the time he is fully fit.About Zouma, who knows though maybe Jose could do 'Varane' to him. We will see how he perform, and how Jose will use him in the pre season. But I'm also understand some of your point though that Zouma somehow not ready yet, that's why I wish for Omeruo, I think he is 'experienced' enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Awesome? They used Carvalho and Abidal there last season and they both renewed their contracts, as well as having young promising players like Borja Gomez, Isimat-Mirin and they also signed Aymen Abdennour permanently, as well as a few other guys as well if I remember rightly. They have too many CBs, theres no point in him going there if he isn't going to play every week. Abidal gone to olympiacos but i agree with the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I have to admit to not following this kid too much. I don't know much about him but from what I've seen from the youtube vids???!!! My Lord! We got a fabulous prospect on our hands! He's HUGE! looks a superior athlete, gets up higher than everyone when contesting aerials and seems to be very combative! I am intrigued to see what we do with him this year, judging by my limited viewing I wouldn't mind him here as our 3/4 CB, could be the steal of the decade if he reaches the heights I feel he can. iseah100 and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 If he goes to Monaco maybe we'll get to see him in the CL. What better experience could he get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted July 9, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 9, 2014 Trained with the team today. laura90, Ainsley Harriott, De_ChrapQaa and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Great english also already. Kieran., didierforever, Term-X and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovieticus 743 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Great english also already. He likes big tackles. Coolio. He loves breakin' bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 His English is very good. He seems very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hope he stays with the squad this year. If he can truly play RB we can move Ivanovic back to CB and have him deputize Cesar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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