Toni Kroos

[Safir Zawad 54]

NO HE CANNOT!

He doesn't defend, is slow, can't win the ball back.

That's what I've been saying all along if you want to see that beautiful no.10 play in the pivot like many of you keep advocating the solution is to get rid of Jose, he's not going to abandon his defensive principles overnight. Jose wants to win and for him winning means defending as a team first.

Kroos has played in the pivot for teams that don't concern themselves with defending, if Jose was going to play like this he wouldn't have sold Mata, he would've played Oscar in the pivot.

So what you are saying is that Mourinho wants a player like Ramires or Oscar in central midfield, a player who covers every blade of grass on the field.

[Namika 922]

Kroos has never defended in his life ? Is that a joke ? The man played sometimes the first CM in the Guardiola system this year. CL semi 11-12, go look at Kroos perfomance against Real Madrid, thanks to him, Bayern took the advantage in midfield because Ozil (A MOURINHO MIDFIELDER) wasn't capable of putting pressure on Schweini and Gustavo, he isolated Xabi by himself too (like Oscar did on Pirlo).

Kroos is a better player than Oscar right now, nobody in this world can deny that, nobody. He's better than him in practically everything but Oscar is far from his best.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Kroos has never defended in his life ? Is that a joke ? The man played sometimes the first CM in the Guardiola system this year. CL semi 11-12, go look at Kroos perfomance against Real Madrid, thanks to him, Bayern took the advantage in midfield because Ozil (A MOURINHO MIDFIELDER) wasn't capable of putting pressure on Schweini and Gustavo, he isolated Xabi by himself too (like Oscar did on Pirlo).

Kroos is a better player than Oscar right now, nobody in this world can deny that, nobody. He's better than him in practically everything but Oscar is far from his best.

Sorry mate, Oscar is one of the best CAM in the world atm with great potential and if you don't agree you can go to hell(using logic on here).

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Bollocks mate, he might lack pace, but he isn't lazy. Even Guardiola and Low admited he is a completely new player in terms of defensive dutties. He defends and attacks with the same rate and the player himself said that Guardiola came to him and said: "The better you get, the more defensive you play."

Low even said that Kroos will be used as one of the two defensive midfielders for Germany this summer.

Please tell me you're not using Pep's words as an indication for someones ability to play in Mourinho's counter attacking system?

Kroos played DM under Jupp too doesn't mean he is effective in that role there. The teams you mentioned are built on attacking, this team is built on defense leading to attacking.

Not saying I wouldn't like to be proven wrong but I HIGHLY doubt Mourinho sanctions a big money move for Kroos to play in the pivot.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So what you are saying is that Mourinho wants a player like Ramires or Oscar in central midfield, a player who covers every blade of grass on the field.

Mourinho wants a player who can defend and also get forward and score. Its been true about every team he's been at.... You have to work hard in defense and then he'll give you the freedom to attack.

[LAM09 7,043]

He has the quality, but his work rate is questionable.

[iseah100 5,612]

Koke and Pogba defensively >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kroos

[Safir Zawad 54]

Please tell me you're not using Pep's words as an indication for someones ability to play in Mourinho's counter attacking system?

Kroos played DM under Jupp too doesn't mean he is effective in that role there. The teams you mentioned are built on attacking, this team is built on defense leading to attacking.

Not saying I wouldn't like to be proven wrong but I HIGHLY doubt Mourinho sanctions a big money move for Kroos to play in the pivot.

What bout Kroos on a free transfer next year?

[Safir Zawad 54]

Koke and Pogba defensively >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kroos

Juve will never let Pogba go. Koke would be a great addition to the squad.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Kroos has never defended in his life ? Is that a joke ? The man played sometimes the first CM in the Guardiola system this year. CL semi 11-12, go look at Kroos perfomance against Real Madrid, thanks to him, Bayern took the advantage in midfield because Ozil (A MOURINHO MIDFIELDER) wasn't capable of putting pressure on Schweini and Gustavo, he isolated Xabi by himself too (like Oscar did on Pirlo).

Kroos is a better player than Oscar right now, nobody in this world can deny that, nobody. He's better than him in practically everything but Oscar is far from his best.

None of those teams have been noted as defensive teams AT ALL! Kroos, no matter what you'd like to think about his defensive contributions, will never play in the pivot for a Jose Mourinho team. Unless of course he does a complete 180 and doesn't care about team defense.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

What bout Kroos on a free transfer next year?

If our problems in the midfield aren't already solved by end of this summer I'm gonna have to do something drastic.

Kroos is not a Jose type player, Bayern won't let him go on a free.

[Safir Zawad 54]

If our problems in the midfield aren't already solved by end of this summer I'm gonna have to do something drastic.

Kroos is not a Jose type player, Bayern won't let him go on a free.

Well Bayern have to react quickly. Either they offer Kroos a better contract or sell him to another club.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Well Bayern have to react quickly. Either they offer Kroos a better contract or sell him to another club.

I have a strong feeling he'll either sign an extension or will be moved towards the end of the window, I doubt Chelsea will be a likely destination though... I wouldn't mind him!

[Safir Zawad 54]

I have a strong feeling he'll either sign an extension or will be moved towards the end of the window, I doubt Chelsea will be a likely destination though... I wouldn't mind him!

Jose has managed to convert Hazard into a player who contributes both in defence and offence. He can do the same with Kroos if he comes to Chelsea

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Please tell me you're not using Pep's words as an indication for someones ability to play in Mourinho's counter attacking system?

Kroos played DM under Jupp too doesn't mean he is effective in that role there. The teams you mentioned are built on attacking, this team is built on defense leading to attacking.

Not saying I wouldn't like to be proven wrong but I HIGHLY doubt Mourinho sanctions a big money move for Kroos to play in the pivot.

No, I'm just telling you what German media and Low (not the best coach out there, I agree) think about him and his transformation in the last two years.

He really is a new player, a better player defensively and I don't think you have to refer only to this Guardiola team when you talk about him. Have you forgot about him under Jupp?! That wasn't a possesion-based team, they were also defending in numbers and counter-attacking everytime when they had the opportunity. And Kroos has played as a "10" for that team, but also as a deep-lying playmaker.