Nemanja Matic

[CHOULO19 24,332]

fair enough - we just value different things in a DM/CM - though again Lucas is very similar in terms of characteristics.

Disagree on the positioning, I did see that Aspi was wide, but Mikel was marking nobody in a situation position marking wasn't necessary.

Doesn't matter because Ramires challenge was very poor which allowed a free shot from Coutinho - ramires marked the ball and not the player.

Absolutely. Lucas at his best is MILES better than both Mikel and Matic for me.

On the positioning, he can't have just left that space there even with no one there as it would have been very easy for Milner or even Coutinho himself to run into it had he not stepped in. But yes, I agree that obviously Ramires was the biggest culprit.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Absolutely. Lucas at his best is MILES better than both Mikel and Matic for me.

On the positioning, he can't have just left that space there even with no one there as it would have been very easy for Milner or even Coutinho himself to run into it had he not stepped in. But yes, I agree that obviously Ramires was the biggest culprit.

Today yes, Lucas is better, but normally Matic has a more attacking side to his game that I think is more important in the modern game.

heh you did not see Lucas at 22 - he played for Gremio and Ironically was a B2B of the highest caliber - used to score often too. A Pogba with less technique, but more movement and intensity.

That's why it's so difficult to predict development of players. Perhaps Pogba is playing at his best right now and then change completely or not at all.

[lucio 5,418]

Of course he's not the only nor the biggest problem. That said, Mikel in the past couple of games put in much better performance than anything Matic has shown this season, despite being a more limited and much less dynamic player.

Nothing mikel has produced is as good as matic vs kiev. However I would play both

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Nothing mikel has produced is as good as matic vs kiev. However I would play both

True, but that one performance has been erased from my memory by the atrociousness of the West Ham and Soton performances.

[supporter 3,088]

When I see Matic (and other players in our squad) and his performance this season I can only remember Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black and his secret trick to delete the memory of the people...

Come on! Matic was the best defensive midfielder in the world last season. How can a player have a big change from one season to another?

We have to find some way to recover this guy.

[Stats 7,141]

Absolutely. Lucas at his best is MILES better than both Mikel and Matic for me.

On the positioning, he can't have just left that space there even with no one there as it would have been very easy for Milner or even Coutinho himself to run into it had he not stepped in. But yes, I agree that obviously Ramires was the biggest culprit.

No. Matic is better than both at his best. To even say Lucas is better than Matic is an insult. This is a player Liverpool came close to shipping to Besiktas and Liverpool fans think he is average himself. Matic is a quality DM, just having a difficult season like the rest of the team but on his day he is easily the best DM in the league for me. Lucas is no way near Matic level.

[Simon1991 233]

And Mikel at his best is also better than Lucas at his best.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Last season I was praising his performances while saying that he is incredibly overrated by our fans. This season I can't praise his performances, but the second part still stands true.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

To think just over a year ago he dominated every single midfielder in BPL including that legendary victory at City in 13-14 which he bossed Yaya. Got a feeling his best is some how already passed and he will develop into a high class Mikel from here on, I think we need to think about a replacement this summer with someone like Kchonyak(spelling that Sevilla Polish mid) to replace him.

I think he can still carry on at the club at least until summer 17.

[Azul 1,615]

The lad is still one of the best CDM's in the world. We just need a good pivot with Matic-RLC and he will show his true colours mark my words.

[MefiX19 1,092]

We really need him back! He's one of the most important Chelsea players.

[Oscar 441]

Them crazy benfica fans always said that one of Matic's biggest weaknesses was stamina

[Pacquiao 1,834]

But But he was MOTM in our 3-0 loss to Man CIty

[BlueLyon 9,359]

IF there is any truth about secret player, it could be him. All the shit that Mou gave him with those subs and not playing him etc while Cesc and Iva kept playing could be enough to get angry.

Those fouls he makes might be quite intentional to get sent off but who knows.

[didierforever 7,349]

but but but, he was our bench player, right?