Tomo 21,751 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 12 games under RDM 7 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses in PL which includes the farcial united loss. 12 games 24 points while playong united, pool at home and spurs and arsenal away. We ended up with 75 points in 38 games which means FSW gave us 51 points in 26 games. Which is lesser than RDM's average. I am not sure how people are coming up with "fsw gave us stability" and "fsw was better than rdm". That's wrong. We were below average in every department under FSW.as for the united game there front 6 was hernandez, welbeck, gigs, nani, fletcher and anderson. If that is there reserves, then so is piazon, sturridge, moses, romeu, mikel, bert, azpi. And that was my point. If they played there reserves, so did we. Lets not act like we played our first team. Even on paper, those teams look pretty equal and if u consider the amount of experience in the united squad, they would be a step ahead of what we had put in on the day.Avrams first few months were on par with Hiddinks in term's off results, doesn't mean much without context.WE had a decent start under RDM but after United we were in complete freefall, we may not have "yet" fell down the table but every sign was it was going to happen, it's better to act in advance rather than wait, if we acted early with ScolarI, Hiddink might have recovered the title.Also you cite the United robbery fair enough but Anfield that season was just as big an injustice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 3 down, 19 more points to go. 19 from a possible 27. 5 wins, four draws. COME ON. 3 down, 16 more points to go. 16 from a possible 24. 5 wins and a draw is all we need. COME ON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Some unwelcome first's this season people are saying that losing to Bradford after being 2 up is the biggest ever cup shock. Now there saying Adam's goal was the best ever long distance strike. Got to say it's difficult to disagree with both statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Some unwelcome firsts this season people are saying that losing to Bradford after being 2 up is the biggest ever cup final shock. Now there saying Adam's goal was the best ever long distance strike. Got to say it's difficult to disagree with both statements.Yeah we have created quite a lot of unwanted history this season (including the Tottenham and PSG games). We're never going to hear the end of it either! Fuck's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Why are you being ignorant? ArseNIL and United look more threatening than City at the moment. City are right now 4th. If we are going to worry, City is the least of our problems.Jeez!! Talk about splitting hairs. Doesn't matter who, the point is still the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Sorry...I just want the title. I don't care how we win it, I just want it. It's been 5 seasons man. The trophy has been sitting in Manchester for over 4 years. And I want us to take that trophy back to West London where it belongs.Oh yeah i agree. No matter what way it is won, as ling as it is won that is all that matters. My point was I just hope it isn't given to us, eg. Drawing 1-1 with Arsenal in 07 to give United the title. I want to go out and win it ourselves!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Oh yeah i agree. No matter what way it is won, as ling as it is won that is all that matters. My point was I just hope it isn't given to us, eg. Drawing 1-1 with Arsenal in 07 to give United the title. I want to go out and win it ourselves!!We won it ourselves by being first with the most amount of points.......what a weird thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 5 wins and a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Some unwelcome first's this season people are saying that losing to Bradford after being 2 up is the biggest ever cup shock. Now there saying Adam's goal was the best ever long distance strike. Got to say it's difficult to disagree with both statements.Who gives a fuck if we win a double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Who gives a fuck if we win a double? Because every time the F.A. cup is mentioned they will show that bloody Bradford game, and i've already seen that fucking Charlie Adam goal about 30 times and it's only 12 hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Because every time the F.A. cup is mentioned they will show that bloody Bradford game, and i've already seen that fucking Charlie Adam goal about 30 times and it's only 12 hours ago.One was one of the biggest FA Cup shocks and the other, one of the best Premier League goals in history. No Chelsea fan is going to enjoy them but these things happen. It happens to other teams as well. Take it on the chin and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 One was one of the biggest FA Cup shocks and the other, one of the best Premier League goals in history. No Chelsea fan is going to enjoy them but these things happen. It happens to other teams as well. Take it on the chin and move on.That's the problem squire i can't move on because like i said that Charlie Adam goal is being showed constantly. Can you imagine if we lost or drew yesterday Jesus the media would have gone into meltdown over that goal. Just wait till next year's F.A. cup and see how many times that Bradford game will be shown or mentioned. Those two Bradford twats who did that podcast will be interviewed every year till the day they die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 We won it ourselves by being first with the most amount of points.......what a weird thing to say.It's like talking to a bunch of fucktards on here sometimes. Rather than being handed the title, ala, drawing with Arsenal to give it to United in 07. Or when Arsenal lost to Leeds in 03. I think it would be better to watch us go out and get the points needed to win it. Ala, Bolton 05, United 06 and Wigan 10.Do I have to draw a diagram for you or does the above suffice?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 It's like talking to a bunch of fucktards on here sometimes.Rather than being handed the title, ala, drawing with Arsenal to give it to United in 07. Or when Arsenal lost to Leeds in 03. I think it would be better to watch us go out and get the points needed to win it. Ala, Bolton 05, United 06 and Wigan 10.Do I have to draw a diagram for you or does the above suffice??I still dont understand. So if we lose our next 3 games and Arsenal catch up but then lose their last game, we still win the league by winning more points. What difference does it make? People will literally bring up any excuse to discredit us winning the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I still dont understand. So if we lose our next 3 games and Arsenal catch up but then lose their last game, we still win the league by winning more points. What difference does it make? People will literally bring up any excuse to discredit us winning the league. What Boshman is saying is he wants us to win the title on our own terms. So when we went to Bolton in 2005 win the game win the league, same as Man U in 2006 and Wigan in 2010. The last thing you need is a City- United scenario of a couple of years ago injury time United champions Aguero scores City champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boshman 1,073 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I still dont understand. So if we lose our next 3 games and Arsenal catch up but then lose their last game, we still win the league by winning more points. What difference does it make? People will literally bring up any excuse to discredit us winning the league.I'm not trying to discredit us winning the league. What are you talking about? In fact if you read every post I have made on this forum it is the complete opposite. I'm not talking about literally handing being handed the title like City last season. Look at the examples I gave. We drew with Arsenal 1-1 in 07. United won the title without even playing. Again, you actually read my previous posts the most important thing is the title is secured any which way possible. My point is, I would prefer to go out there and pick the points up ourselves. Like against Bolton in 05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 One was one of the biggest FA Cup shocks and the other, one of the best Premier League goals in history. No Chelsea fan is going to enjoy them but these things happen. It happens to other teams as well. Take it on the chin and move on.and in a way Bradford wasn't a shock as we were so poor!Let's hope we don't have any more moments by going stupid and letting the league go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Because every time the F.A. cup is mentioned they will show that bloody Bradford game, and i've already seen that fucking Charlie Adam goal about 30 times and it's only 12 hours ago.Now just imagine being a Liverpool fan and seeing that Gerard slip over and over and over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Now just imagine being a Liverpool fan and seeing that Gerard slip over and over and over again Ha ha superb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 And having a chant for it to :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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