The Ancelotti Thread

[Henrique 9,133]

About that player: I'm pretty sure its Luiz. After that Manchester game Luiz probably said something wrong to Carlo. After that, Luiz was dropped for the remaining games of the season, despite being a regular starting XI since he was bought in january window.

[Ze Mario 638]

Ancelotti is a very good manager when he already have a team in his hands: just compare Ream Madrid record this season with past season, or reaching the Final for the first in 12 years.

Chelsea played one of the best footballs I have ever seen in 09/10 PL season. He is not a guy to build a new team tough. His weaknesses were exposed in 10/11 season, it seems he was beginner playing FIFA: he was just changing players without changing the way the team played or even changing the formation. He couldn't find a way to use his new players (Ramires had an abysmal season), and he couldn't handle the Torres situation.

I remember one game when the CB's were out of action, then in a game against a small PL side he decided to use Paulo Ferreira as his CB, instead of using Bruma. No doubt the kid decided to leave.

I don't see is sacking as a bad decision.

RM this year isnt different than RM last year. What i like from him is his 4-3-1-2 Christmas at Milan. Amazing. Our 09/10 was amazing too, but milan under carlo slightly better.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Ancelotti is a very good manager when he already have a team in his hands: just compare Ream Madrid record this season with past season, or reaching the Final for the first in 12 years.

Chelsea played one of the best footballs I have ever seen in 09/10 PL season. He is not a guy to build a new team tough. His weaknesses were exposed in 10/11 season, it seems he was beginner playing FIFA: he was just changing players without changing the way the team played or even changing the formation. He couldn't find a way to use his new players (Ramires had an abysmal season), and he couldn't handle the Torres situation.

I remember one game when the CB's were out of action, then in a game against a small PL side he decided to use Paulo Ferreira as his CB, instead of using Bruma. No doubt the kid decided to leave.

I don't see is sacking as a bad decision.

But then again, Bruma played at CB against Aston Villa in the 3-3 draw and was terrorised by Emile Heskey...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Football is unpredictable as it can be and its unfair to say that Real is in final because of Carlo, but Jose should still reach final at least once in 3 attempts.

I think besides having Bale, Carvajal (for some odd reason Jose didnt replace Arbeloa), Isco as new players, Carlo added calmness into the team, they look less nervous and handle things better. Also change of system into 4:3:3 was great for Di Maria and Modric revelation, also fixing problem of playing CR, Bale and Maria at same time. Deserves some credit for that IMO.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Football is unpredictable as it can be and its unfair to say that Real is in final because of Carlo, but Jose should still reach final at least once in 3 attempts.

I think besides having Bale, Carvajal (for some odd reason Jose didnt replace Arbeloa), Isco as new players, Carlo added calmness into the team, they look less nervous and handle things better. Also change of system into 4:3:3 was great for Di Maria and Modric revelation, also fixing problem of playing CR, Bale and Maria at same time. Deserves some credit for that IMO.

Because Arbeloa is the only one who stayed on Jose's side

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Because Arbeloa is the only one who stayed on Jose's side

Haha though Im realy curious what realy happened there...Real board was certainly unhappy with Jose 'behaviour', but it seems most players still liked him, despite media reports. I remember media saying Jose and Ramos were hating each other but before Jose left, Ramos was crying in his arms...

[Henrique 9,133]

Football is unpredictable as it can be and its unfair to say that Real is in final because of Carlo, but Jose should still reach final at least once in 3 attempts.

I think besides having Bale, Carvajal (for some odd reason Jose didnt replace Arbeloa), Isco as new players, Carlo added calmness into the team, they look less nervous and handle things better. Also change of system into 4:3:3 was great for Di Maria and Modric revelation, also fixing problem of playing CR, Bale and Maria at same time. Deserves some credit for that IMO.

While they have Bale and other players now, they lost the likes of Ozil and Higuain.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Haha though Im realy curious what realy happened there...Real board was certainly unhappy with Jose 'behaviour', but it seems most players still liked him, despite media reports. I remember media saying Jose and Ramos were hating each other but before Jose left, Ramos was crying in his arms...

I hope when he retires Jose's autobiography will be a massive "tell all exposé", even about what happened at Chelsea!!

[Jase 43,479]

I hope when he retires Jose's autobiography will be a massive "tell all exposé", even about what happened at Chelsea!!

We might get a bit of that later this year. Mourinho's first autobiography is coming out this October.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mourinho-Football-The-Beautiful-Game/dp/0755365534

[Rmpr 8,977]

RM this year isnt different than RM last year. What i like from him is his 4-3-1-2 Christmas at Milan. Amazing. Our 09/10 was amazing too, but milan under carlo slightly better.

That's not true at all. Real Madrid this season is very different than Jose's team...

It's ridiculously diminishing when people say all Carlo did was inherit what Mourinho built!

[Ze Mario 638]

That's not true at all. Real Madrid this season is very different than Jose's team...

It's ridiculously diminishing when people say all Carlo did was inherit what Mourinho built!

very? do tell

Although RM under carlo use 4-3-3 formation, they still tend to 4-2-3-1 formation through the game. Their average possession even lower than last year (mourinho's WORST year at RM) -> 53%<55%. They still tend to start from the deep, with alonso and modric as their pivot. Although his experiment using DiMaria to replace Isco (who failed at some matches) is a big success, they still playing same football. And ancelotti have Bale

And one big differense is how Carlo handle the tension in dressing room. But, its their own fault. Their captain reveal all information with his GF while bouncing above their bed. Bunch of hypocrite RM players. They throw Mourinho in the air when they defeat Barcelona at their peak, won la liga with most goal scored, and stabbed him from the back when they have 1 bad year.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

We might get a bit of that later this year. Mourinho's first autobiography is coming out this October.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mourinho-Football-The-Beautiful-Game/dp/0755365534

He'll probably be more respectful in this one, I don't expect to see much said against Chelsea.

[Nike 373]

[calculatingInfinity 1,472]

The most obvious would be Anelka, which it probably is. He did some good things for Chelsea, but no one can deny how much of a fucking cunt he is.

[Henrique 9,133]

We should put managers name in the section about past players.

Carlo is awesome manager to get the best of a squad full of a team that already exist. Chelsea played the best football under Ancelotti, and Real had his most successful season in 12 years, but Real was only 3rd in La Liga.

Not sure if he is the man to build another team for Real Madrid when that would be the case.

[iseah100 5,612]

We should put managers name in the section about past players.

Carlo is awesome manager to get the best of a squad full of a team that already exist. Chelsea played the best football under Ancelotti, and Real had his most successful season in 12 years, but Real was only 3rd in La Liga.

Not sure if he is the man to build another team for Real Madrid when that would be the case.

Exactly. He did fuck all with PSG. Still a good manager though.

About Mou's autobiography though! HOUGGHHHHHH!

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Carlo's work at Madrid has been Exceptional.

He took a team that was drowned in controversy and brought calm into the team and club. With the players he was given, he was able to add a new layer of maturity (specially defensively) to Madrid. The season long tactical work consisted primarily of

1. Figuring out the correct formation

2. Improving team work and defensive mechanisms

The mid point of this improvement/road was the 31 game undefeated streak that consisted of Madrid conceding around no more than 5 goals in about 2 months. This all Led to the final result, that being a strong 4-3-3/4-4-2 hybrid that beat Both Barcelona and Bayern 7-1 aggregate.

This champions league trophy is definitely in great part due to Ancelotti's fantastic work at Madrid.

The league was lost primarily because of the first half of the season, which is where Madrid was trying to find it's ground. There was then a dip with a draw against Atletico in league and loss to Barca but this led to Carlo and the team finding the last tweaks they needed. The last 3 or so league matches were "thrown away" for several reasons, but it can be argued that this bit of relaxation allowed Madrid for more energy for the final, which is one of the reasons everyone took it more easily during the last weeks of league.

Next season will be the season where Real Madrid can truly be judged on league.

Only improvements based on realistic transfer rumors i hear are Suarez and Pogba.

Benzema, Morata, Khedira, Casemiro all out.

Di Maria/Modric being untouchable, and Isco a Heir to their positions.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Delighted for Carlo as I am for any ex Chelsea manager when they win something (except Benitez), one of the only managers along with Bob Paisley to win the European Cup 3 times now.

This champions league trophy is definitely in great part due to Ancelotti's fantastic work at Madrid.

I still don't see how Real Madrid won the CL final 4-1 despite playing so poor collectively and to be honest individually in 120 minutes. Had Costa been 110% fit then I think it might have been a different story because well lets be honest Adrian is a good player but hes not Diego Costa and everyone in that Atletico team were very good until Ramos scored. Lucky enough for Real they have match winners like Isco, Di Maria, Bale and Ronaldo (even though the only two who really made an impact were Isco and Di Maria in the second half and extra time). Think Carlo's subs were good though, Isco came on, let Modric play a wee tad deeper which worked as he did a lot more than Khedira in terms of distributing the ball forward and quicker and then Marcelo was braver than Coentrao in getting forward. Still don't think Real were half as good as they were made out to be in times this season and third place is La Liga is still quite embarrassing for a squad with that players.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Delighted for Carlo as I am for any ex Chelsea manager when they win something (except Benitez), one of the only managers along with Bob Paisley to win the European Cup 3 times now.

I still don't see how Real Madrid won the CL final 4-1 despite playing so poor collectively and to be honest individually in 120 minutes. Had Costa been 110% fit then I think it might have been a different story because well lets be honest Adrian is a good player but hes not Diego Costa and everyone in that Atletico team were very good until Ramos scored. Lucky enough for Real they have match winners like Isco, Di Maria, Bale and Ronaldo (even though the only two who really made an impact were Isco and Di Maria in the second half and extra time). Think Carlo's subs were good though, Isco came on, let Modric play a wee tad deeper which worked as he did a lot more than Khedira in terms of distributing the ball forward and quicker and then Marcelo was braver than Coentrao in getting forward. Still don't think Real were half as good as they were made out to be in times this season and third place is La Liga is still quite embarrassing for a squad with that players.

Third place is really more in part due to the last 3 matches given away for reasons already mentioned. The 2014 Madrid would have probably won the league.

Real Madrid won the matches it had to win in the CL with the only slip pretty much being the match at dortmund, it was after that one that the 4-3-3/4-4-2, and the real cl winning side was able to be seen. The matches against Bayern and Barca after that dortmund match speak for them selves. Best Madrid since the Last Cl winning side.

Atletico defended well and made it hard for us but they were only winning due to a Goalkeeper mistake, they were pretty poor in attack. Benzema and Ronaldo were not in shape, they were actually petty much doubts before the final, and Bale wasnt at his finest as he missed a very clear opportunity and also made bad decisions from which Madrid could have scored atleast one more. Khedira is also Khedira after all and was not fully fit.

Carlo's subs were actually exactly what Madrid needed. Specially with Atletico on the ropes.

Real Madrid played better, no doubt.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Third place is really more in part due to the last 3 matches given away for reasons already mentioned. The 2014 Madrid would have probably won the league.

Real Madrid won the matches it had to win in the CL with the only slip pretty much being the match at dortmund, it was after that one that the 4-3-3/4-4-2, and the real cl winning side was able to be seen. The matches against Bayern and Barca after that dortmund match speak for them selves. Best Madrid since the Last Cl winning side.

Atletico defended well and made it hard for us but they were only winning due to a Goalkeeper mistake, they were pretty poor in attack. Benzema and Ronaldo were not in shape, they were actually petty much doubts before the final, and Bale wasnt at his finest as he missed a very clear opportunity and also made bad decisions from which Madrid could have scored atleast one more. Khedira is also Khedira after all and was not fully fit.

Carlo's subs were actually exactly what Madrid needed. Specially with Atletico on the ropes.

Real Madrid played better, no doubt.

I wouldn't really say it was by a massive difference then.

Atletico still gave Real a lot of problems by winning first and second balls in midfield, pressing and defending very well (except for that corner Ramos scored from and the extra time due to fatigue). The likes of Bale, Ronaldo, Benzema, Di Maria (in the first half) players who you'd expect to open them up (even though a lot of teams have this year) struggled to really get into the game at all and if I were a Madrid fan I would have found that quite worrying during the 90 minutes, given their ability and the fact it was the biggest game of their season if not their Real Madrid careers.

Even if Ronaldo and Benzema were doubts before the game they were awful, Diego Costa wasn't very fit but Ronaldo and Benzema were obviously going to be more ready for the game than he would be given Simeone had rushed his recovery from injuries once or twice this season and they backfired. Most of the Real Madrid team played badly in fact, 4-1 wasn't a fair reflection and the idiot journalists and morons on twitter bigging up Bale and Ronaldo's performances need to seriously have a look at that game again. Bale was awful but he ran 30m and scored a header so he all of a sudden had a good performance? Roy Keane was right when he said Bale had done nothing in the first half and he still did in the second half and most of extra time.

Sure Atletico were poor in attack but then that means surely Real were very very very poor in attack because Benzema, Bale and Ronaldo you would never have guessed were playing at all in the 90 minutes. Sure when it went to extra time you could just feel Real would win mainly because the Atletico players had given so much and were quite frankly hanging on from the 70th minute onwards.

Still it was about time Madrid won la decima given all that money they spent, just a pity though because I felt Atletico's efforts up until that corner was worthy of winning even though the last 20 minutes it was quite frankly one way traffic.