Willian

[Barbara 15,149]

I think currently (not based on form, but where they stand in their careers) Willian is a better player than Oscar because he's older, more experienced, more well-rounded. Oscar has the potential to become better than Willian, but potential is something not that much tangible. He may develop to his full potential or he may not.

I agree with @Rmpr that Willian is on his peak... which doesn't make him the finished product (if I understand the expression right)... I mean he's on his prime, but I guess there's still room for improvement meaning I understand where @ is coming from too.

So finished product in my view is when the player fulfills his entire potential, Willian is already on his prime and peaking in his development curve, but I believe he can still continue ascending before he goes flat in that curve. So I agree with both Rapha and Cicero.

[Rmpr 8,977]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:14, Barbara said:

I think currently (not based on form, but where they stand in their careers) Willian is a better player than Oscar because he's older, more experienced, more well-rounded. Oscar has the potential to become better than Willian, but potential is something not that much tangible. He may develop to his full potential or he may not.

I agree with @Rmpr that Willian is on his peak... which doesn't make him the finished product (if I understand the expression right)... I mean he's on his prime, but I guess there's still room for improvement meaning I understand where @ is coming from too.

So finished product in my view is when the player fulfills his entire potential, Willian is already on his prime and peaking in his development curve, but I believe he can still continue ascending before he goes flat in that curve. So I agree with both Rapha and Cicero.

Well, I dont think Willian will get much better (if any), but that doesnt mean I think he will start falling anytime soon.

For instance, Ronaldo isnt better than two years ago, but he still just as spetacular!

And about Oscar, I really couldnt care less if people think he is or isnt better than Willian. I was just posting what I said more than one year ago...

[Gil 28]

Still not a huge fan of his. He works very hard of course but he's looked underwhelming in attack this season. Don't think I've seen him go past his marker once this season.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:25, Gil said:

Still not a huge fan of his. He works very hard of course but he's looked underwhelming in attack this season. Don't think I've seen him go past his marker once this season.

Have you been watching games blindfolded or something? His assist for Eto'o's goal in the Champions League is an example of him going past players.

[Gil 28]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:27, ChelseasMessiah said:

Have you been watching games blindfolded or something? His assist for Eto'o's goal in the Champions League is an example of him going past players.

He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etc

He's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve.

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:37, Gil said:

He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etc

He's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve.

Not quite what you said then...

I think he's been underplayed, he's a quality player.

[Jase 43,479]

Just had to laugh at this..

Tottenham dodged a bullet in not signing Willian

[bluesman2610 1,373]

Willian vs. Arsenal away shows what he can do.. if you are unsure what the player is about he was brilliant that game

[zolayes 14,489]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:37, Gil said:

He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etc

He's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve.

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:25, Gil said:

are you setting out to be a troll or are you a ??????????

[Gil 28]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:52, zolayes said:

are you setting out to be a troll or are you a ??????????

What?

[Gil 28]

  On 21/11/2013 at 19:41, ChelseasMessiah said:

Not quite what you said then...

I think he's been underplayed, he's a quality player.

I personally think he's overrated and was a pointless signing. Don't think he offers us much more than Schurrle or KDB would.

Quality is pushing it. He's just an above average player with not much room for improvement at his age.

Short-sighted signing by the club as usual.

[zolayes 14,489]

  On 22/11/2013 at 00:18, Gil said:

What?

yes it is a 4 letter word

[Special Juan 27,622]

  On 22/11/2013 at 00:21, Gil said:

I personally think he's overrated and was a pointless signing. Don't think he offers us much more than Schurrle or KDB would.

Quality is pushing it. He's just an above average player with not much room for improvement at his age.

Short-sighted signing by the club as usual.

I think you have been watching Will.I.am not Willian pal.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Can people just stop feeding the troll?

[Jase 43,479]

  On 21/11/2013 at 00:31, Rmpr said:

My very first post was in this thread!

I remember being called by some stupid names (as I was new in here) for saying Willian was much better than Moses (we were linked with him at the time) but worse than Hazard and Oscar (the two players we had just signed).

Now what?

But but, you didn't exactly approve the signing of Willian did you?

[Rmpr 8,977]

  On 22/11/2013 at 08:32, BluesMaster said:

But but, you didn't exactly approve the signing of Willian did you?

No, but it wasnt because I said Moses was better, it was because we didnt need a new AM!

[Jase 43,479]

  On 22/11/2013 at 08:49, Rmpr said:

No, but it wasnt because I said Moses was better, it was because we didnt need a new AM!

Oh Rapha...you take things way too seriously sometimes..

[Rmpr 8,977]

  On 22/11/2013 at 09:11, BluesMaster said:

Oh Rapha...you take things way too seriously sometimes..

Decide Jayjay!

When I dont take you seriously you complain that, but when I take you seriously you also complain. Make up your fucking mind...