Willian

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

5 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

More dynamic RWs? Like Martial? Who is a left winger/striker? I'd take a gamble on Martial like I've said before but he is still a risk, we need more attackers in the squad in those wide/10 positions because well Eden, Willian, Pedro and Barkley who can play those attacking MF positions, they are all different sorts of players but in terms of depth its not much as we've seen this season and even last season when we've been chasing games. Throw Martial in that selection, its a boost for us, considering his talent and age but I don't get why so many people are so thrown on throwing out one of our better players to a main rival in return for somebody who hasn't really done as well as what it would seem that people are making out.. Did nobody seen Arsenal over the years do that and become a laughing stock? And last summer was bad enough with losing Matic and Costa. I don't get it. Pedro maybe he might be someone who could go but if we get Sarri and he gets the sort of football he does at Napoli then Pedro will be useful because that sort of quick pass and move third man running shit in attacking situations is what he was very good at when he played at Barca. I mean Sarri has even made Callejon look a pretty decent footballer so its not impossible that if he was appointed that he could rejuvenate Pedro's performance level in comparison to what we've seen this season. Leon Bailey is another player I really like and would take him here, think there is more chance of him coming than Martial in all honesty. 

I wasn’t clear enough I’m afraid. 

Im under the same assumption that CFC are hiring Sarri, and that Martial will he used as a ST/LW and Morata will force through his move to Juventus. 

Martial isn’t a RW, but Leon Bailey is sitting right there for Chelsea to snap up and If Willian leaves then Pedro will be kept i assume. 

Basically this is what I think we look like. 

Hazard/Martial——Batshuayi/Martial——Bailey/Pedro. 

 

[The Skipper 20,593]

On 13/05/2018 at 2:35 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

Lunacy to let Willian go to United

Going against the grain here but he really isn’t that good imo. As long as we replace properly he won’t be missed.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

2 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Going against the grain here but he really isn’t that good imo. As long as we replace properly he won’t be missed.

Fair enough -not against an upgrade, but to offload to the redscum is the sort of stupid thing the board would do. 

[Tomo 21,733]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Fair enough -not against an upgrade, but to offload to the redscum is the sort of stupid thing the board would do. 

Ultimately it would be another player past his best days heading to United, and unlike Mata and Matic, Willy was never even that great in his prime.

The only way it could haunt us is if we fail to replace him properly (ofcourse that's a possibility) but if United are prepared to pay stupid money or give us Martial for a player who ultimately is inconsistent and wildly erratic in the final third, i'd take that all day long.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Ultimately it would be another player past his best days heading to United, and unlike Mata and Matic, Willy was never even that great in his prime.

The only way it could haunt us is if we fail to replace him properly (ofcourse that's a possibility) but if United are prepared to pay stupid money or give us Martial for a player who ultimately is inconsistent and wildly erratic in the final third, i'd take that all day long.

I wouldn't, don't rate Martial that much. Even if he was. he'd be pony for us, we'd sell him, and then he'd be brilliant at the next club, knowing our luck. 

Whereas if Willian goes to the redscum. Mourinho will get the best out of him, with his psycho babble grooming. If he's going, a better upgrade than Martial is required, and tell Utd to fuck the fuck off.

[Tomo 21,733]

20 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I wouldn't, don't rate Martial that much. Even if he was. he'd be pony for us, we'd sell him, and then he'd be brilliant at the next club, knowing our luck. 

Whereas if Willian goes to the redscum. Mourinho will get the best out of him, with his psycho babble grooming. If he's going, a better upgrade than Martial is required, and tell Utd to fuck the fuck off.

Funnily enough, Willian has been much more productive without Jose.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

Just now, Tomo said:

Funnily enough, Willian has been much more productive without Jose.

You watch the cunt put his arm round him and whisper sweet nothings at Wemberlee...

[Unionjack 7,531]

Craics me up. I say something aout Eden and get hissy fits yet theres peeps happily knocking one of our best players who has progressed the last 3 seasons and not a dickie bird!

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

6 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Craics me up. I say something aout Eden and get hissy fits yet theres peeps happily knocking one of our best players who has progressed the last 3 seasons and not a dickie bird!

I am guessing, but my general feeling of the zeitgeist amongst Chelsea fans is that we'd be mad to let him go, and that this forum isn't representative. Could be wrong though.

[Tomo 21,733]

8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Craics me up. I say something aout Eden and get hissy fits yet theres peeps happily knocking one of our best players who has progressed the last 3 seasons and not a dickie bird!

Do you have to act like such a schoolkid? If you say something as ridiculous as Hazard offers nothing but dribbling ofcourse you are going to get called out for it.

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Do you have to act like such a schoolkid? If you say something as ridiculous as Hazard offers nothing but dribbling ofcourse you are going to get called out for it.

Edem IS a short dribbler tho!

Name calling. I'm the schoolkid! hmmm OK fella.

It must mean something when Manures own suppoters are up for the swap!

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Do you have to act like such a schoolkid? If you say something as ridiculous as Hazard offers nothing but dribbling ofcourse you are going to get called out for it.

Think UJ was highlighting the disproportionate love for the diminuitive Belgian, over Willian, who arguably has been just as good in a lot of fans eyes.

[The Skipper 20,593]

20 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Craics me up. I say something aout Eden and get hissy fits yet theres peeps happily knocking one of our best players who has progressed the last 3 seasons and not a dickie bird!

Willian has never scored more than 10 league goals (most ever is 8 which was last season - this season he has 6 - apart from these two seasons he’s never scored more than 5 league goals) in a season in his whole career, never mind just his time at Chelsea. For someone that disappears way way more than Eden, how can you even compare the two? He literally has one really good month a season.

[The Skipper 20,593]

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Think UJ was highlighting the disproportionate love for the diminuitive Belgian, over Willian, who arguably has been just as good in a lot of fans eyes.

Our fans are clearly blind then. Willian isn’t on Eden’s level at all. 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

Edem IS a short dribbler tho!

Name calling. I'm the schoolkid! hmmm OK fella.

It must mean something when Manures own suppoters are up for the swap!

No they ain't, ive asked about 20 of them and only 1 seem up for it  (and he backs anything Mou does) and the general opinion on Redcafe is that it will be a KDB esque blunder.

4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Think UJ was highlighting the disproportionate love for the diminuitive Belgian, over Willian, who arguably has been just as good in a lot of fans eyes.

The 'love' comes down to the sheer downplaying of such a special player, Willian's been good overall for us, but he's lightyears behind Hazard.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

No they ain't, ive asked about 20 of them and only 1 seem up for it  (and he backs anything Mou does) and the general opinion on Redcafe is that it will be a KDB esque blunder.

The 'love' comes down to the sheer downplaying of such a special player, Willian's been good overall for us, but he's lightyears behind Hazard.

I must have read different posts on there

Id take Eden over alot of other good players. And IF he could only turn up on a rregular basis I'd tell everyone to fuck off if they wanted him

And I would happily swap ANY player if it was to upgrade the team in general.

But to give our 2nd best forward to benefitt one of our biggest threats for a young player WITH POTENTIAL I just cant see it as a good deal for us.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

23 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Our fans are clearly blind then. Willian isn’t on Eden’s level at all. 

Opinions, that's all it is

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

25 minutes ago, Tomo said:

The 'love' comes down to the sheer downplaying of such a special player, Willian's been good overall for us, but he's lightyears behind Hazard.

Get the feeling it's about 50/50 in the MHL