Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 My very first post was in this thread! I remember being called by some stupid names (as I was new in here) for saying Willian was much better than Moses (we were linked with him at the time) but worse than Hazard and Oscar (the two players we had just signed).Now what? Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 My very first post was in this thread! I remember being called by some stupid names (as I was new in here) for saying Willian was much better than Moses (we were linked with him at the time) but worse than Hazard and Oscar (the two players we had just signed).Now what? Not sure if he is worst than Oscar. Barbara, kellzfresh and iceboy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Not sure if he is worst than Oscar.I think they are in different stages of their careers!Willian is the finished product, while Oscar will still develop into the player he will ultimately become... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Willian is a finished product at 25? The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I read a trash article on how Spurs dodged a bullet not signing Willian.. it then went on to say that he hasn't assisted once sinse his arrival and that was when I realised a Spurs fan had written the article. I won't bother to post that shyte here because it isn't worth your time reading it. I do expect a lot more from Willian but not this season. Next year he will have to prove he is worth the millions we paid for him. If he can do it this year then great but not really fussed and have seen some glimpses of the Willian from Shaktar. Shakez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Willian is a finished product at 25?Of course, 25 is exactly the age players reach their peak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I think currently (not based on form, but where they stand in their careers) Willian is a better player than Oscar because he's older, more experienced, more well-rounded. Oscar has the potential to become better than Willian, but potential is something not that much tangible. He may develop to his full potential or he may not.I agree with @Rmpr that Willian is on his peak... which doesn't make him the finished product (if I understand the expression right)... I mean he's on his prime, but I guess there's still room for improvement meaning I understand where @ is coming from too.So finished product in my view is when the player fulfills his entire potential, Willian is already on his prime and peaking in his development curve, but I believe he can still continue ascending before he goes flat in that curve. So I agree with both Rapha and Cicero. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I think currently (not based on form, but where they stand in their careers) Willian is a better player than Oscar because he's older, more experienced, more well-rounded. Oscar has the potential to become better than Willian, but potential is something not that much tangible. He may develop to his full potential or he may not.I agree with @Rmpr that Willian is on his peak... which doesn't make him the finished product (if I understand the expression right)... I mean he's on his prime, but I guess there's still room for improvement meaning I understand where @ is coming from too.So finished product in my view is when the player fulfills his entire potential, Willian is already on his prime and peaking in his development curve, but I believe he can still continue ascending before he goes flat in that curve. So I agree with both Rapha and Cicero.Well, I dont think Willian will get much better (if any), but that doesnt mean I think he will start falling anytime soon.For instance, Ronaldo isnt better than two years ago, but he still just as spetacular!And about Oscar, I really couldnt care less if people think he is or isnt better than Willian. I was just posting what I said more than one year ago... Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil 28 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Still not a huge fan of his. He works very hard of course but he's looked underwhelming in attack this season. Don't think I've seen him go past his marker once this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Still not a huge fan of his. He works very hard of course but he's looked underwhelming in attack this season. Don't think I've seen him go past his marker once this season.Have you been watching games blindfolded or something? His assist for Eto'o's goal in the Champions League is an example of him going past players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil 28 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Have you been watching games blindfolded or something? His assist for Eto'o's goal in the Champions League is an example of him going past players.He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etcHe's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etcHe's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve.Not quite what you said then...I think he's been underplayed, he's a quality player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Just had to laugh at this.. Tottenham dodged a bullet in not signing Willian guddy69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Willian vs. Arsenal away shows what he can do.. if you are unsure what the player is about he was brilliant that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 He went past ONE player caught on his heels lol. I'm talking about beating his man out wide and putting in a delicious delivery or cutting inside playing a teammate in with a reverse pass etcHe's been underwhelming for a £30m signing in my opinion. Still only 11 games though, has time to improve.are you setting out to be a troll or are you a ?????????? ChelseasMessiah, Barbara and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil 28 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 are you setting out to be a troll or are you a ??????????What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil 28 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not quite what you said then...I think he's been underplayed, he's a quality player.I personally think he's overrated and was a pointless signing. Don't think he offers us much more than Schurrle or KDB would.Quality is pushing it. He's just an above average player with not much room for improvement at his age.Short-sighted signing by the club as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What?yes it is a 4 letter word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I personally think he's overrated and was a pointless signing. Don't think he offers us much more than Schurrle or KDB would.Quality is pushing it. He's just an above average player with not much room for improvement at his age.Short-sighted signing by the club as usual.I think you have been watching Will.I.am not Willian pal. ZanSnake and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Can people just stop feeding the troll? kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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