illmatic 901 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Around of the minute 45 of the first half. Great counter attack for us. Willy on the ball, at least 3 teammates near to him, but thinks a lot his choice, and lets Stoke reset his form. Goodbye to a great counter attack option. The reason for who Willy is not a totally TOP, in one action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Interesting that some don't like him on the ball. He can be frustrating at times on the counter when he has too much time to think, but he's no more frustrating than the likes of Oscar, Pedro, Costa, and even Hazard in that regard at the moment. His ball retention is excellent, the best in our squad bar in form Eden. I really think people under appreciate players who can keep the ball under intense pressure, the lad who was meant to replace Willian last season couldn't even control the ball with no one around him. Sounds simple but only him & Eden are good at it in our squad, and for a supposed top team that's simply not enough when you look at some other clubs.His passing when under pressure is also excellent most of the time. Countless times does he receive the ball with not a lot on, shift it quickly & play a precise ball instantaneously. He actually sets up a LOT of counters by being quick in possession, the problem is that when he's the one leading the counter the initial burst is good but then he seems to get overwhelmed and picks the wrong option. stroey and Adnane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Regarding willian's free kicks this season that ended up as goals...Have you ever seen a luckier batch of goals than WIllian's fks this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 9, 2015 Regarding willian's free kicks this season that ended up as goals...Have you ever seen a luckier batch of goals than WIllian's fks this season? He has perfected a technique that makes goals very likely, because they are very hard for keepers to defend. Then there are his great strikes at goal like the one against Dynamo. Johnnyeye, stroey, Stats and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Regarding willian's free kicks this season that ended up as goals...Have you ever seen a luckier batch of goals than WIllian's fks this season? More skill than luck. He purposely adds that spin so that if it evades a player's head it can work it's way to the goal. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 More skill than luck. He purposely adds that spin so that if it evades a player's head it can work it's way to the goal.He has perfected a technique that makes goals very likely, because they are very hard for keepers to defend. Then there are his great strikes at goal like the one against Dynamo.You guys really think so? Seems like every fk goal the keeper didn't see the ball/bad goalkeeping. 1: Pure luck2: Ramires agresssion is what scored the goal3. Casillas went on the post game interview and said he couldn't see the ball4. this goal was so weird. The keeper was there and still didnt make the save. I'm guessing he didn't see the ball as well5. Bad goalkeeping.it's really crazy how willian never scored above 4 goals in a season for us and manage to score 5 already all via free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 You guys really think so? Seems like every fk goal the keeper didn't see the ball/bad goalkeeping. 1: Pure luck2: Ramires agresssion is what scored the goal3. Casillas went on the post game interview and said he couldn't see the ball4. this goal was so weird. The keeper was there and still didnt make the save. I'm guessing he didn't see the ball as well5. Bad goalkeeping.it's really crazy how willian never scored above 4 goals in a season for us and manage to score 5 already all via free kicks. this is the first season he has been our main free kick taker ,, hadnt you noticed that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 this is the first season he has been our main free kick taker ,, hadnt you noticed that ?that's irrelevant.Guys like lampard, kdb, pirlo, gerrard never scored like 5 fks in a season let alone the first few months....The position where willian is taking these free kicks are so far away as well, which makes it crazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! zolayes 14,489 Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 9, 2015 that's irrelevant.Guys like lampard, kdb, pirlo, gerrard never scored like 5 fks in a season let alone the first few months....The position where willian is taking these free kicks are so far away as well, which makes it crazier.how is it irrelevant if he wasnt taking freekicks how the fuck could he score from them , Just recognise he has a TECHNIQUE ..incidentally in a Barca game this season there were 3 free kicks in about 10 mins from the position Willian has scored from . Messi scored 2 and the other team 1 ... Just appreciate .. It is SKILL.. you could look back at some Zola classics as well Johnnyeye, Essien19, chelseafan26 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 it's really crazy how willian never scored above 4 goals in a season for us and manage to score 5 already all via free kicks. Guys like lampard, kdb, pirlo, gerrard never scored like 5 fks in a season let alone the first few months.... The position where willian is taking these free kicks are so far away as well, which makes it crazier. You just answered your question of "is it just luck" by your self...Football professionals know much more about the works of football than we do. There must be something Willian and the coaches worked on the training ground in the summer that is making all these goals. Even more positive of that since he uses the same technique as well.Also, with delivering all these great free kicks his confidence in his ability must be sky high! That, along with the other reasons, must be why he is doing it so well. Like his goal with Dynamo. When I saw that we won a free kick at that spot and saw Willian step up I knew it was going to be a goal. Reminds me of how it was when Mata was doing our attacking set pieces (corners, free kicks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Stats 7,147 Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 9, 2015 You guys really think so? Seems like every fk goal the keeper didn't see the ball/bad goalkeeping. 1: Pure luck2: Ramires agresssion is what scored the goal3. Casillas went on the post game interview and said he couldn't see the ball4. this goal was so weird. The keeper was there and still didnt make the save. I'm guessing he didn't see the ball as well5. Bad goalkeeping.it's really crazy how willian never scored above 4 goals in a season for us and manage to score 5 already all via free kicks. Definitely. I am sure it is a skill. He just has spend hours practising and it has benefited him and us. This was his comments on his free kick technique couple weeks ago:"I've been practicing free-kicks for a long time, but until this season I haven't had many opportunities to take them during the game. Now I have, and it comes from something I've been practicing.""I've been hitting the ball with a lot of intensity and I've found a way of striking them from wide on the left with a lot of pace and velocity so there is a chance for my teammates to get a touch on the ball, but if it happens that no one gets a touch, it passes straight into the goal." zolayes, Essien19, stroey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm sure no one really imagines that Willian's current rate of free kick conversion is going to continue. Of course it won't, no matter how much he practices. In the entire history of the game no one has ever sustained this rate of success over a prolonged period. There's a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm sure no one really imagines that Willian's current rate of free kick conversion is going to continue. Of course it won't, no matter how much he practices. In the entire history of the game no one has ever sustained this rate of success over a prolonged period. There's a reason for that.Of course it won't, but lets hope it continues a little while longer. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm sure Willian's supporters will want to carry on the discussion but I can't see any way to assess his output other than as I've said above.I have my own opinion on Willian and I can see that other members highlight the points I want to make, so I will avoid running through the debate again ( as I've been doing so since October 2013 eveyrwhere on Internet... ), but this sentence is absolutely out of place, especially the second part of it, are you serious in believement that your assessment is the only valid one ? zolayes, Stats, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 3. Casillas went on the post game interview and said he couldn't see the ballSeriously ?Guess that would be every goalkeeper's excuse when conceding a free-kick then no ? There is a reason why it is considered a goal chance Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I have my own opinion on Willian and I can see that other members highlight the points I want to make, so I will avoid running through the debate again ( as I've been doing so since October 2013 eveyrwhere on Internet... ), but this sentence is absolutely out of place, especially the second part of it, are you serious in believement that your assessment is the only valid one ? Valid or invalid? Let me reply using the notion of correct or incorrect. Like everyone on the planet, whenever I have a firm opinion on a subject I belive that opinion to be correct for, if I didn't think it was correct, I'd stop thinking it and think something else instead. Whether you think my opinion is correct is another matter. I didn't say you can't see another way, I said I couldn't. And I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I have my own opinion on Willian and I can see that other members highlight the points I want to make, so I will avoid running through the debate again ( as I've been doing so since October 2013 eveyrwhere on Internet... ), but this sentence is absolutely out of place, especially the second part of it, are you serious in believement that your assessment is the only valid one ? of course he is always certain that his view is the only correct one . Put him on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Definitely. I am sure it is a skill. He just has spend hours practising and it has benefited him and us. This was his comments on his free kick technique couple weeks ago:"I've been practicing free-kicks for a long time, but until this season I haven't had many opportunities to take them during the game. Now I have, and it comes from something I've been practicing.""I've been hitting the ball with a lot of intensity and I've found a way of striking them from wide on the left with a lot of pace and velocity so there is a chance for my teammates to get a touch on the ball, but if it happens that no one gets a touch, it passes straight into the goal."We are quite lucky in our history of free kick takers that we've usually been a threat from a direct free kick. You had the wildcats like Luiz, Alex, Luis but also the ones who were precise like Drogba, Lampard, Mata and now Willian. Not forgetting Hazard and Oscar. Stats and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 We are quite lucky in our history of free kick takers that we've usually been a threat from a direct free kick. You had the wildcats like Luiz, Alex, Luis but also the ones who were precise like Drogba, Lampard, Mata and now Willian. Not forgetting Hazard and Oscar.Deco too, and Geremi was decent at it. And of course, Filipe Luis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 We are quite lucky in our history of free kick takers that we've usually been a threat from a direct free kick. You had the wildcats like Luiz, Alex, Luis but also the ones who were precise like Drogba, Lampard, Mata and now Willian. Not forgetting Hazard and Oscar.Am I forgetting or did I miss anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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