André Schürrle

[Muzchap 8,966]

thats the definition of a squad player. schurrle is not going to get any major gametime any time soon. his next start might be the fa cup game but definitely not tomorrow or swans or city or even the pool semis. so we just keep him around cos he has potential and may come good at some point of time?

"when you are only given the time to play one game here, one there and not being able to get any game time going, you are bound to struggle for form."

you think this situation is going to change for him anytime soon? i dont. the problem is still there. despite having "numbers", we dont really have any "depth"

we are not replacing hazard/matic here. we are replacing schurrle who has played a total of 920 minutes scoring 4 goals and giving 0 assits. whats more, we would have a 30mil budget along with anything we want to add to it. we'll be just fine.

Exactly - he's not set the world alight as Choulo mentioned and he just looks lost. It's better for him and us if we call it a day - like with KdB.

I would actually look to the youth, they couldn't do a worse job than Shirley

It is a shame for Shirley - but I'm sure he'll rediscover his form somewhere else and be a decent player

[Jase 43,479]

thats the definition of a squad player. schurrle is not going to get any major gametime any time soon. his next start might be the fa cup game but definitely not tomorrow or swans or city or even the pool semis. so we just keep him around cos he has potential and may come good at some point of time?

"when you are only given the time to play one game here, one there and not being able to get any game time going, you are bound to struggle for form."

you think this situation is going to change for him anytime soon? i dont. the problem is still there. despite having "numbers", we dont really have any "depth"

we are not replacing hazard/matic here. we are replacing schurrle who has played a total of 920 minutes scoring 4 goals and giving 0 assits. whats more, we would have a 30mil budget along with anything we want to add to it. we'll be just fine.

Even a squad player does get game time to get their rhythm, form and confidence. The downside of us having a really settled starting XI is that situation isn't happening. You can't expect players to come in and perform like turning on/off a tap water, especially when these players are hardly at their peak (the situation at City is probably an ideal comparison perhaps). Moreover, looking at the number of minutes Schurrle (or anyone else for that matter) has had is misleading. Only a few of them were starts while others have been in the final parts of matches.

[Stats 7,056]

we can recall moses/marin back and believe me, we wont feel that schurrl's gone. he has done NOTHING this season.

The season still has got a long way to go. Yes, Schurrle has been poor but people are like Jekyll and Hyde on here. They are all up on Schurrle's arse when he was scoring for the club and NT and now that he has got off to a slow start since being back people want to write him off. In the long run, Schurrle might just be an added bonus for us and I reckon we will appreciate having him in the squad. Please don't compare Marin and Moses to Schurrle. Schurrle is much better than both but is just low on confidence right now and is not playing well. Nasri had a similar situation with City but with time improved and played well. No reason why Schurrle cannot do the same.

If people really think we can just sell Schurrle and think Salah can easily fill in, then they don't have a clue. Just because he has done 'nothing' this season which is not true anyway, there is no reason to think he cannot gain form later on in the season.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

The season still has got a long way to go. Yes, Schurrle has been poor but people are like Jekyll and Hyde on here. They are all up on Schurrle's arse when he was scoring for the club and NT and now that he has got off to a slow start since being back people want to write him off. In the long run, Schurrle might just be an added bonus for us and I reckon we will appreciate having him in the squad. Please don't compare Marin and Moses to Schurrle. Schurrle is much better than both but is just low on confidence right now and is not playing well. Nasri had a similar situation with City but with time improved and played well. No reason why Schurrle cannot do the same.

If people really think we can just sell Schurrle and think Salah can easily fill in, then they don't have a clue. Just because he has done 'nothing' this season which is not true anyway, there is no reason to think he cannot gain form later on in the season.

It's debatable that he is much better than Moses. Moses when given time is a serviceable squad player, and that is all Schürrle is looking to be too.

[FabHazard 655]

i would rather have schurrle than lavezzi...cuadrado is a good option for right wing..we should opt for cuadrado if we dont get to sign reus...above all reus should be first priority for right wing

[iseah100 5,612]

Rather sell Salah and get Reus

[Barbara 15,149]

It's debatable that he is much better than Moses. Moses when given time is a serviceable squad player, and that is all Schürrle is looking to be too.

So Moses should be given time to find his form and André shouldn't? Double standards or what? Andre had health issues that both him and Mourinho said were severe. Shouldn't he be given time too?

Then again maybe I'm biased because I don't think Moses is Chelsea's standard at all.

[Fernando 6,464]

i would rather have schurrle than lavezzi...cuadrado is a good option for right wing..we should opt for cuadrado if we dont get to sign reus...above all reus should be first priority for right wing

Cuadrado might be best if we want to use him for the CL, as he's with Fiore.

So if the reports are true, a big if since that's big money for Schurrle then Cuadrado would be best option at these moments.

[The Skipper 20,593]

If we got 30M then yes, otherwise I agree with @Jason. Marin or Moses? They will be worse with the minutes Schürrle is getting, no player is going to build up any kind of form with such inconsistency.

Not at all, not for Moses anyway. I feel Victor would've had a bigger impact with the minutes Schurrle's got this season. Schurrle has played quite a bit of football this season, quite similar to the amount that Victor did for us in his first season where he was a reliable squad player, let's not forget.

Andre is way too inconsistent.

[Jase 43,479]

Not at all, not for Moses anyway. I feel Victor would've had a bigger impact with the minutes Schurrle's got this season. Schurrle has played quite a bit of football this season, quite similar to the amount that Victor did for us in his first season where he was a reliable squad player, let's not forget.

That may be true but let's also not forget that we are competing for much bigger things this season. We weren't even in the title race and Champions League then. Moses is a decent player but it's like people have forgotten they actually moaned about him and I'm pretty sure some even said he's not good enough for us. Moses has played more minutes than Schurrle this season (at least in the league) and he's hardly been blowing defenders away but because Schurrle is awful right now, people suddenly think Moses can do the job for us?

Andre is way too inconsistent.

That was always going to be the case when you don't play the player (Schurrle or not) often enough. The point would have been much more valid had Schurrle played a lot but still not putting in consistent performances.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

So Moses should be given time to find his form and André shouldn't? Double standards or what? Andre had health issues that both him and Mourinho said were severe. Shouldn't he be given time too?

Then again maybe I'm biased because I don't think Moses is Chelsea's standard at all.

I don't think either is Chelsea standard to be starting, but if we are giving time for squad players to find rhythm I'd much rather it went to a homegrown player so we could use the international spot on somebody that is a world beater/starter quality.

[The Skipper 20,593]

That may be true but let's also not forget that we are competing for much bigger things this season. We weren't even in the title race and Champions League then. Moses is a decent player but it's like people have forgotten they actually moaned about him and I'm pretty sure some even said he's not good enough for us. Moses has played more minutes than Schurrle this season (at least in the league) and he's hardly been blowing defenders away but because Schurrle is awful right now, people suddenly think Moses can do the job for us?

I've never complained about Moses tbh, he's always been a solid squad player to me. My only problem with him is that he shouldn't be a starter.

That was always going to be the case when you don't play the player (Schurrle or not) often enough. The point would have been much more valid had Schurrle played a lot but still not putting in consistent performances.

That's the thing though - I think Andre has had enough minutes to show that he should be starting but every performance seems to get even worse. I really like Andre, he's a good player but when he's not on form he's absolutely awful because he brings no threat to the final third. Victor on the other hand can make a much bigger impact off the bench due to his superior pace and direct dribbling skills.

Schurrle is the sort of player that needs to play game in game out regardless of form and we can't afford that here. At 30m euros we should cash in.

[Jase 43,479]

I've never complained about Moses tbh, he's always been a solid squad player to me. My only problem with him is that he shouldn't be a starter.

Solid squad player yes but good enough for us? Probably not. If he was that, then think Mourinho might have recalled him last January rather than going out to buy Salah.

That's the thing though - I think Andre has had enough minutes to show that he should be starting but every performance seems to get even worse. I really like Andre, he's a good player but when he's not on form he's absolutely awful because he brings no threat to the final third. Victor on the other hand can make a much bigger impact off the bench due to his superior pace and direct dribbling skills.

Moses having superior pace is questionable but there's no point being better at dribbling and quicker if there's no end product, no? I still remember Moses' final product can be extremely frustrating, especially his crossing (and that's what people are complaining about Schurrle now too).

[The Skipper 20,593]

Solid squad player yes but good enough for us? Probably not. If he was that, then think Mourinho might have recalled him last January rather than going out to buy Salah.

Moses having superior pace is questionable but there's no point being better at dribbling and quicker if there's no end product, no? I still remember Moses' final product can be extremely frustrating, especially his crossing (and that's what people are complaining about Schurrle now too).

I'm not debating whether Moses is the better player btw. What I am debating however is that Moses might be a better option to bring off the bench. Yeah, his end product is frustrating but it's been improving at Stoke this season where he was playing well before getting injured.

The biggest point for me is the fact that 30m euros might be on offer here, if that's the case we should sell because I don't think Andre will ever be good enough to really nail down a spot in the team.

[Jase 43,479]

I'm not debating whether Moses is the better player btw. What I am debating however is that Moses might be a better option to bring off the bench. Yeah, his end product is frustrating but it's been improving at Stoke this season where he was playing well before getting injured.

The biggest point for me is the fact that 30m euros might be on offer here, if that's the case we should sell because I don't think Andre will ever be good enough to really nail down a spot in the team.

And I'm disagreeing that Moses is a better option to bring off the bench than Schurrle.

About that offer, have any of the German papers reported about this? So far, Di Marzio seems to be only the source and people are taking it as something true (because of the 30m).

[The Chels 2,502]

German right-sided attacker wants to fight for place but Chelsea have highlighted his position as needing strengthening, with Marco Reus and Juan Cuadrado on radar.

André Schürrle is prepared to fight for his Chelsea future – even though the club will make signing a new right-sided forward one of their top priorities of the summer transfer window.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11336123/Chelsea-news-Jose-Mourinho-targets-replacement-for-Andre-Schurrle.html

[didierforever 7,349]

The season still has got a long way to go. Yes, Schurrle has been poor but people are like Jekyll and Hyde on here. They are all up on Schurrle's arse when he was scoring for the club and NT and now that he has got off to a slow start since being back people want to write him off. In the long run, Schurrle might just be an added bonus for us and I reckon we will appreciate having him in the squad. Please don't compare Marin and Moses to Schurrle. Schurrle is much better than both but is just low on confidence right now and is not playing well. Nasri had a similar situation with City but with time improved and played well. No reason why Schurrle cannot do the same.

If people really think we can just sell Schurrle and think Salah can easily fill in, then they don't have a clue. Just because he has done 'nothing' this season which is not true anyway, there is no reason to think he cannot gain form later on in the season.

if you read my other posts, i have reiterated that we should buy reus/lavezzi/cuadrado to replace him. the moses/marin comparision was to show how poor he has been. also, i really dont think he is that better than moses. moses is erratic, and poor in the final (almost as if his brain get short circuited in the final third), but he has shown that his gameis actually quite good. schurrle on the other hand is a goal scorer (normally) but seems to be pretty average on his overall game. even defensively he has shown to be a massive liability.

we are fighting for the title, you think schurrle will get a "time" to improve. hell he cant even get 60 minutes, he has been so poor that he has to be subbed off at HT.

buying lavezzi/cuadrado and especially reus will only better the team and squad. and selling schurrle for 30mil is hardly a poor decision especially since how poor he has been.

right now, even the idea of going towards the end of the season with title on the line and on the other hand CL semis/quarete finals in mid week and having schurrle as the main back sends a chill through my spine.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

If the offer is serious then it'd be best to sell him. We can use Salah and Remy for the wings IF anything happens to Willian and Hazard. Its quite clear that Jose really doesn't rate Schurrle anymore. If nothing happen this month then I am sure he'll get sold in the summer.