petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Spike said: The Spanish fellas I chat with say he isn't that overrated or terrible but a fairly solid player that could improve immensely in the future. I do however, agree that he isn't worth 40m. Sounds a little like Dembele, shame he doesn't have the balance. Shows flashes of Kaka, but nothing more than flashes. A single good game in the Euros people who have only seen him play once are hyping him. Shows flashes, yes, but a 40m player should be close to a finished article, a player ready to make instant impact, rather than wait for him to develop for years. Andre Gomes gets a lot of hype because of Jorge Mendes' influence, too. And his close relationship with Valencia CF. He is the super agent and has a lot of journalists on his payroll. The breaking news that Sky Sports ran this morning, they did not hear it from Valencia, the information was leaked to them by some journalist, instructed by Jorge Mendes. He knows that by using Chelsea's name, his player's value will escalate quickly and he is using this tricks to inflate prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Watched him against Austria and thought he was class. Plays with passion and with a 6'2" stature accompanied by great technical ability I think he can become a top player in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topico 165 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Makes Jordan Henderson look like Xavi Hernandez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Bad match today. He's more of an attacking player than a central midfielder. Wasn't impressed with his passing, he's a good dribbler but he's no where near the 42mil valencia is calling for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,166 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 42M? Fuck right off..But yeah this will happen because the frauds behind the scenes will make it happen. Get your head checked if you think this guy will solve our midfield issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,980 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Think he'd be a nice luxury player to use in a 3 man midfield but definitely wouldn't be worth the huge fee to play in a 2 man midfield. If we were to sign a beast of a DM like Kante, signing Gomes to play as the box to box #8 would be nice. Cesc/Gomes/Kante would be fantastic if Nainggolan doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Great thing about Euro 2016 is that it's exposing so many of these overrated players, which is quite the opposite of what many here were fearing would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,083 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 hours ago, nono said: Great thing about Euro 2016 is that it's exposing so many of these overrated players, which is quite the opposite of what many here were fearing would happen. Or is it exposing the value of the opinions of those who are doing the overrating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,067 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Seeing these supposed talents fail to live up to the hype should be an eye opener to a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Or maybe we shouldn't give absolute judgemenets on players based on a few international games at all? If we were to do that, then we'd be calling Ronaldo and Messi wank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Ronaldo and Messi are actually performing well at international level, and in these Euro and Copa tournaments. For the prices players like Gomes are going for, I expect them to be very good day in day out, with a rare off night. But they are actually consistently average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, nono said: Ronaldo and Messi are actually performing well at international level, and in these Euro and Copa tournaments. For the prices players like Gomes are going for, I expect them to be very good day in day out, with a rare off night. But they are actually consistently average. All the prices quoted to us are ridiculous without exception. Ronaldo isn't performing well, he's an anchor dragging down the whole Portuguese team and always has. Messi at Copa I've heard has been doing great, but I don't watch it and don't really count that as he's not playing against equal opponents (I mean they won the semi-final 4-0 or something?). In World Cups he's been pretty average, undeservedly got player of tournament award last WC iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I can understand, and I agree to the argument of him not being worth 42 mill. He's absolutely not worth that money. But he has produced a few good moments out there, and during the course of the two matches out there he's never been below a solid 6. (I didn't watch the match from yesterday.) He's obviously not the finished product, quite raw still, but the boy has potential to become a very,very solid player under the right coaching. And already is a more than decent player the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Another poor match, subbed off for renato Sanchez. His passing leaves a lot to be desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,166 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This bloke is gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,152 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Subbed off at 50th minute. Did not thought he was that bad but nothing noteworthy too. To offer over £30m for him. Nah thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,394 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I'm happy - Valencia rejected our offer for this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,083 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 ^^Did we even make one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topico 165 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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