Best Formation for current Chelsea Squad?

[Backstreet09 499]

If we use 2 strikers we either lose a MF player or a defend and revert to 3 at the back. If we were to go 4-4-2 that means we'd be outnumbered in MF by most teams in the PL and I have concerns about us playing 3 at the back.

Mikel is fucking useless so well that doesn't count, we would have the same defence line. Hazard would drift wide, Oscar and Mata in the Middle and Hulk on the other side. Cavani and Torres or anyone you'd like would be leading the line.

Oscar would play as DLP, and Mata could be told to fucking stay in his line. YOU'RE NOT A SECOND STRIKER anymore.

Don't know about Hulk but Hazard has started to drop back recently and help in defense so hulk would need a little lecture from MOU.

OH AND Mata and Torres could change position whenever they want cause Mata has a shit tendency to go forward and Torres has to drop back lol.

PLUS ATTACK IS THE BEST DEFENSE.

I could aready see us winning the champions league

[mybodyisready 155]

4231 is the best formation right now

[Funkyflashman 187]

Whatevr formation we use, we should play atleast 2 striker. Even Ba has been crying bout that for far too long.

If we use 2 strikers we either lose a MF player or a defend and revert to 3 at the back. If we were to go 4-4-2 that means we'd be outnumbered in MF by most teams in the PL and I have concerns about us playing 3 at the back.

I'd love to see a 352 or variant a la Juventus and Conte, but not many teams in modern European football play with two strikers; the setup a three man defence is set up to counter.

Against teams playing with one striker (most, as there is a droolfest with 4231 right now) there is a three on one difference at the back. Good for shutting out the striker, not good because it concedes an extra, unnecessary spare man, giving the opposition a spare man elsewhere. So right there it's a no for me, as very few teams play with two outright strikers.

Added to this, is that the width in a system with three defenders normally comes from one wide player on each side, which means they have to be capable defensively. Sure this allows us to play with 2 wingers, a CAM, and 2 strikers, but if you look at the players Juve play in wide spots (Lichsteiner/Asamoah/De Ceglie) then you see that Hazard can't really occupy one of those spots if the system is going to be effective.

A four man defence then, and if we have two strikers then realistically that leaves us with a 442 or a 442 diamond. A flat 442 is dead, and a diamond, while better, doesn't make the best use of our wingers, nor does it make sense to select a formation that restricts the number of players we can play in attacking midfield positions, given the talent we have there.

I think it's a straight fight between 433 and 4231. Mourinho at Inter persuaded Eto'o and Pandev to play deep and work hard defensively in their 4231/4213 variant, and I think he could ask the same of Mata and Hazard, so flexibility between the two seems likely. At Real, he used a 4231 normally, and a 433 in tougher games. Think of Mata as the Ozil, in the number 10 role in the 4231, and pushed wide in the 433.

[Tomo 21,751]

I would be surprised if we end next season with the same formation that we start with.

Jose has a habit of changing formation's just before it's about to get found out. 05/06 teams were starting to suss out our wingplay, United made up 10 points on us and were 7 behind with us still to play, so Mou decided to scrap it and unleash Drogba and Crespo together, a move which caught the whole league with their pants down and we won the league.

Mourinho brought 4-3-3 to the English game in the first place, so don't be surprised if he finds a new formation from somewhere.

[Backstreet09 499]

I'd love to see a 352 or variant a la Juventus and Conte, but not many teams in modern European football play with two strikers; the setup a three man defence is set up to counter.

Against teams playing with one striker (most, as there is a droolfest with 4231 right now) there is a three on one difference at the back. Good for shutting out the striker, not good because it concedes an extra, unnecessary spare man, giving the opposition a spare man elsewhere. So right there it's a no for me, as very few teams play with two outright strikers.

Added to this, is that the width in a system with three defenders normally comes from one wide player on each side, which means they have to be capable defensively. Sure this allows us to play with 2 wingers, a CAM, and 2 strikers, but if you look at the players Juve play in wide spots (Lichsteiner/Asamoah/De Ceglie) then you see that Hazard can't really occupy one of those spots if the system is going to be effective.

A four man defence then, and if we have two strikers then realistically that leaves us with a 442 or a 442 diamond. A flat 442 is dead, and a diamond, while better, doesn't make the best use of our wingers, nor does it make sense to select a formation that restricts the number of players we can play in attacking midfield positions, given the talent we have there.

I think it's a straight fight between 433 and 4231. Mourinho at Inter persuaded Eto'o and Pandev to play deep and work hard defensively in their 4231/4213 variant, and I think he could ask the same of Mata and Hazard, so flexibility between the two seems likely. At Real, he used a 4231 normally, and a 433 in tougher games. Think of Mata as the Ozil, in the number 10 role in the 4231, and pushed wide in the 433.

Having Hulk and Hazard on the wings would totally shut the role of our fullbacks, so they could fucking staay in their line, providing cover for the midfield and well yuss idk, Mata could even play as a second striker to Cavani in the 4-4-2, they would help us fit De bruyne in their, but I don't know if he's anybetter than Mata in defensive area so yuss well, Even Chalaboah could play.

It merely depends on discipline, if our players are willing to play their role and not be badass to fuck with the other guy role.

[Rmpr 8,977]

I think 4-2-3-1 is our best formation, because Mata and Hazard work better with it.

Also, by the rumors, Jose is looking for a ST, RW, DM and CB. Which fits the bill for a 4-2-3-1 formation plan...

[Backstreet09 499]

I think 4-2-3-1 is our best formation, because Mata and Hazard work better with it.

Also, by the rumors, Jose is looking for a ST, RW, DM and CB. Which fits the bill for a 4-2-3-1 formation plan...

Out of seven or I don't know how many trophies, we managed to win fucking ONE with that formation. How could you be so sure that they wouldn't play the same way in 4-3-3 or in 4-4-2 or even in 3-5-2 ? We haven't tried them yet.

#Rafayelpls

[Rmpr 8,977]

Out of seven or I don't know how many trophies, we managed to win fucking ONE with that formation. How could you be so sure that they wouldn't play the same way in 4-3-3 or in 4-4-2 or even in 3-5-2 ? We haven't tried them yet.

#Rafayelpls

4-3-3: Where would Mata play?

4-4-2: We struggled to get one good striker last season, how exactly do you plan on playing with 2?

3-5-2: Same problem with the 2 strikers. Plus, 3 on the back, really?

[Backstreet09 499]

4-3-3: Where would Mata play?

4-4-2: We struggled to get one good striker last season, how exactly do you plan on playing with 2?

3-5-2: Same problem with the 2 strikers. Plus, 3 on the back, really?

1) He would be our third striker but in the middle, so he could even fall back.

2) We were far better when we played both Ba and Torres together.

3) Mikel doesn't do anything, Lamps doesn't help in defending so yesh its the same thing

Plus with Hulk and Hazard wide, we could totally shut our fullbacks from going forward, they would be a good cover

I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

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Edited June 9, 2013 by Backstreet09

[Rmpr 8,977]

He would be our third striker but in the middle, so he could even fall back.

We were far better when we played both Ba and Torres together.

Mikel doesn't do anything, Lamps doesn't help in defending so yesh its the same thing

Plus with Hulk and Hazard wide, we could totally shut our fullbacks from going forward, they would be a good cover

I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

[Backstreet09 499]

Lol I kinda messed up my last post, but I feel you got my point

[Rmpr 8,977]

Lol I kinda messed up my last post, but I feel you got my point

I swear I didnt understand one single thing of what you tried to say mate!