Playstation 4 Or Xbox One

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I'm just throwing this out there, but perhaps it's supposed to look like a console? The Playstation 4 will probably look like one. The previous generation consoles looked like consoles. Microsoft just screwed up here in terms of Aesthetics and Name (Especially the name...).

But these aren't just consoles anymore. I watch Netflix and Hulu on them as much as I play games so why shouldn't they look like every other part of my AV setup?

The one part comes from the input situation I think. They want to be 'input one' on people's setups and if I can run my Sky box through it then that makes sense.

The thing is, Sony isn't like Microsoft. The console itself probably won't be ridiculous in various aspects and they won't mention 'TV, Sports or Call of Duty' every 2 sentences. It was only boring because Microsoft made it boring. It could have been so much better. I expect Sony to give Microsoft a master class and knock it out of the ball park.

I think I've reached the point where I'm not a 'proper gamer' or something like that. To me Microsoft showed what it would be like to use this thing everyday. I like the idea of being able to tell my Xbox to come on and then it turning my whole system on. That's actually useful.

To me Sony spent way too much time focusing on the Share aspect, which is something I have no interest in whatsoever.

Personally I think there's a large percentage of people who are like me, who play a lot of FIFA and COD because we're just not cool enough to learn how great Battlefield is. We'll have a go on Journey but we'll spend more time faffing with our fantasy teams.

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After two generations of Xbox I'm switching to PS again. Very dissapointed with MS.

The specs ARE worse then PS4. Sony went with Gddr5 while MS went with regular Ddr3, witch is why they had to put in the ESram.

On sheer fillrate the ps4 will have a massive advantage plus the gpu has 50% more raw power. Ps4 games will look the same as xbox one games but will have a higher framerate and better imagequality.

Also the focus was on live tv while in the real world the focus is on time lapse tv watching. And i dont event know how theyll make it work in europe with hundreds of different digital tv providers..

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After two generations of Xbox I'm switching to PS again. Very dissapointed with MS.

The specs ARE worse then PS4. Sony went with Gddr5 while MS went with regular Ddr3, witch is why they had to put in the ESram.

On sheer fillrate the ps4 will have a massive advantage plus the gpu has 50% more raw power. Ps4 games will look the same as xbox one games but will have a higher framerate and better imagequality.

Also the focus was on live tv while in the real world the focus is on time lapse tv watching. And i dont event know how theyll make it work in europe with hundreds of different digital tv providers..

That's a good point. In Britain they've got a partnership with Sky so I can watch most stuff on demand, but it's not in HD yet (I think). Plus it's a pain in the arse waiting for it to load the app when TV is instant.

As for the graphics stuff, I can't see most games looking better on the PS3 apart from some exclusives. Will FIFA or COD look significantly different from platform to platform? I can't see the publishers having any incentive whatsoever to do that.

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That's a good point. In Britain they've got a partnership with Sky so I can watch most stuff on demand, but it's not in HD yet (I think). Plus it's a pain in the arse waiting for it to load the app when TV is instant.

As for the graphics stuff, I can't see most games looking better on the PS3 apart from some exclusives. Will FIFA or COD look significantly different from platform to platform? I can't see the publishers having any incentive whatsoever to do that.

It depend how sensitive you are to aliasing and framerate. If developers do nothing to add stuff like extra geometry to the PS4 version of a multiplatform title, i would expect it to run faster and have higher quality anti aliasing.

With ps3 and x360 the 360 had a slightly more powerfull gpu witch resulted in a more stable framerate on many multiplatform games.

It was only really Sonys first parties that took advantage of the cell architecture, and it took them pretty long to get to that point.

This time the CPUs are identical so it will come down to gpu power and bandwidth. From what i can tell Sony has a pretty big advantage there.

That said, i still might buy the new xbox If the price is right. I'm not playing 500 euro's just because it has kinect 2.0...

Edit: about the tv stuff. Keep in mind that is different from the way 360 does VOD.

Xbox one has hdmi input so you basically connect your cable box directly to the xbox rather then just stream content over the internet..

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After two generations of Xbox I'm switching to PS again. Very dissapointed with MS.

The specs ARE worse then PS4. Sony went with Gddr5 while MS went with regular Ddr3, witch is why they had to put in the ESram.

On sheer fillrate the ps4 will have a massive advantage plus the gpu has 50% more raw power. Ps4 games will look the same as xbox one games but will have a higher framerate and better imagequality.

Also the focus was on live tv while in the real world the focus is on time lapse tv watching. And i dont event know how theyll make it work in europe with hundreds of different digital tv providers..

Yep, this. People can reply to my posts all they want but the facts are indisputable thus I don't need to reply. Playstation 4 wins. All that's left is to see the sales figures in about 7-8 years (Which I'm sure PS4 will lead).

Look, fair enough. There's nothing wrong with non-hardcore gamers buying either console. However I think it's best if the 2 consoles are judged on their main purpose and the reason most people will buy them, Gaming, in which case, it just has to be the PS4.

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Look, fair enough. There's nothing wrong with non-hardcore gamers buying either console. However I think it's best if the 2 consoles are judged on their main purpose and the reason most people will buy them, Gaming, in which case, it just has to be the PS4.

I don't know how anyone can say that before E3. Both companies are going to use that show to show off the games. I think there's a massive disconnect between what 'hardcore gamers' think is good marketing practice and what is good marketing practice.

Microsoft used their first event to show off the console and appeal to people who probably won't take notice of E3, so why on Earth anyone thinks that they can make a fair assessment at this point in time before there's been much gameplay shown on either platform is slightly confusing.

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I don't know how anyone can say that before E3. Both companies are going to use that show to show off the games. I think there's a massive disconnect between what 'hardcore gamers' think is good marketing practice and what is good marketing practice.

Microsoft used their first event to show off the console and appeal to people who probably won't take notice of E3, so why on Earth anyone thinks that they can make a fair assessment at this point in time before there's been much gameplay shown on either platform is slightly confusing.

The Specs and features of both consoles. No gameplay needs to be shown to see which one will have the superior graphics capability. It's like seeing a Ford and Ferrarri (Just hypothetically, I'm not suggesting the gap will be that large). You don't need to see the race to know what the result will be.

Game wise, Sony has always released better exclusives, so it's not really a big jump to predict that will happen again, especially as Microsoft fell into its old pattern of leeching onto Call of Duty.

I believe Non Hardcore gamers don't quite get how big the Gaming side of a Gaming console is...

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I'll rather pay for Xbox Live, that have that free shit called PSN.

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I've been reading up on b3d and the ESram might indeed negate the bandwidth advantage the PS4 appears to have on paper. That still leaves the raw power advantage though.. IF the rumoured specs are correct. I guess ill try to reserve gudgement untill we get more developer feedback and see actual in game footage of both.

Ah.. New console launches... Such emotional times

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The Specs and features of both consoles. No gameplay needs to be shown to see which one will have the superior graphics capability. It's like seeing a Ford and Ferrarri (Just hypothetically, I'm not suggesting the gap will be that large). You don't need to see the race to know what the result will be.

Game wise, Sony has always released better exclusives, so it's not really a big jump to predict that will happen again, especially as Microsoft fell into its old pattern of leeching onto Call of Duty.

I believe Non Hardcore gamers don't quite get how big the Gaming side of a Gaming console is...

I believe 'hardcore gamers' don't quite get how stupid their arguments are.

I agree with some of your points, but until the games are shown then it's impossible to say and most people will probably end up buying both. That's the problem with hardcore gamers who tend to have less disposable income - they feel this overwhelming need to argue that they've chosen the right console.

Like I said earlier, I'll probably stick with my Xbox (even with it's stupid name and box that makes it look like an AV/DVR box which will look so out of place next to my DVR and AV boxes ​ ) for the cross platform stuff and pick up the PS3 later in the cycle for the exclusives, much like I do now (Xbox for the FIFAs and GTAs, PS3 for The Last of Us and Journey).

Quite why it has to be an either/or is somewhat beyond me.

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Ah.. New console launches... Such emotional times

Aside from The Last of Us, I hope we see Uncharted 4 get announced, if it's even in devlopment. Uncharted 2 was my game of the Generation, it blew just about everything away. Some, Battlefield 4 gameplay would be nice too. Sony's side of E3 is definitely generating more excitement

Oh and so far, WatchDogs...Looks incredible. I think it'll be hard for it live up to the hype its created but hey, let's hope it does because that would be one juggernaut of a game.

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this picture sums a lot even though I used to love xbox lol.

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this picture sums a lot even though I used to love xbox lol.

LMAO Fantastic! Plus, so accurate

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Anyone who gets a nentendo wii is a tightass

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Anyone who gets a nentendo wii is a tightass

I feel kind of sorry for Nintendo, in that it's kind of become a joke to gamers because of this giant war between Sony and Microsoft. However we need to remember that, most gamers (including me) grew up with Nintendo! The N64 and countless handhelds. Such great times.

I saw a meme about this too, that the Wii U has some surprisingly awesome features so let's not go bashing it too much

Using Toy Story as an example, Nintendo is like everyone's version of Woody. Sure the new toy Buzz (PS and Xbox) is awesome but we will always love Woody (Nintendo) just as much.