Atmosphere

[The only place to be 11,313]

WHAT?

Oh I remember, I was complaining about Rafa and how good his lineup was. Then you said to wait until the final whistle and that was what I did. I stuck around and watched the whole fucking game (posting more than anyone else, you can check), then I apologised to you (you can check that as well) for criticizing the dude before the 90min.

To give up is to turn the TV off or something, not to moan about the manager after 30min.

This was one of the most stupid lies someone has ever told me!

The point I was making is that you had a human response to what you were seeing, and that's what the supporters in the ground have as well. A cold Thursday evening in a shitty competition with a small turnout isn't exactly invigorating.

I know, but I have said in several games (like, regular ones) that the atmosphere was great. I never asked for Turkish or Brazilian fans, but I only want a cooler and louder stadium. That game (I believe it was West Brom) after Rafa's rant was pretty darn good, it is something achievable to have that kind of atmosphere in every game. I also get that is really dificult to be bumped up on a col thursday night, but I never complained about it, did I?

The atmosphere is England is pretty dull and people must stop creating excuses for it. It is not normal to have away fans (and that happens quite often) screaming more than 30k people!

What I did was to reply to your post saying people cant complain or ask for something better if they dont go to games...

It's fairly typical. Going to support your team away from home is much different from going home. You''re literally entering enemy territory so there's a siege mentality. Plus if you've travelled with mates you've probably had a few so you're a little more vocal. When we go away, we tend to out-sing the home team too.

Every club has similar supporters but in varying proportions I find. Just because of where we're located we tend to get a few more 'reserved' fans than some other clubs, which isn't helped by our pricing structure.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The worst thing when we had the ball there were boooes all around, when they were attacking cheering everywhere...spoiled or not, you have to shut opponent fans. It felt difficult for Chelsea players when playing at Sb with no support.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Yes the atmosphere in the beginning was quite strange.There were times where it felt like that we were playing away instead at home.

[The Mak 4,459]

Problem with atmosphere? What problem? The place is absolutely jumping when Torres wins a throw or corner!!!

[MHL 47 378]

Now, I believe it´s time to embezzle some money just to attend Chelsea´s games. Any tips, on how to ?

1. Get a job (you don't deserve) as Technical Director at CFC

2. Get a job (you don't deserve) as Director of Football Operations at CFC

3. Call yourself a football manager, be out of work for two years and doing nothing, Get job at CFC, be appointed by TD, blame everyone else when things go tits-up, get the 18months money for 6 months 'work' - Easy Dollar

[bushman 2,043]

1. Get a job (you don't deserve) as Technical Director at CFC

2. Get a job (you don't deserve) as Director of Football Operations at CFC

3. Call yourself a football manager, be out of work for two years and doing nothing, Get job at CFC, be appointed by TD, blame everyone else when things go tits-up, get the 18months money for 6 months 'work' - Easy Dollar

Would you be able to a word in for me ?

I´ll take DOF.

[MHL 47 378]

Would you be able to a word in for me ?

I´ll take DOF.

Look, there's a couple of pre-requisites that you need to have in your locker before you can be considered, namely:

• Can you completely avoid responsibility for footballing decisions you have had a part in?
• Have you never held a similar job at a top level club prior to potentially getting the start with CFC

If the answer to both these questions is YES then you've got the same potential the current two incumbants had, i.e. you're almost there.

Oh one last criteria to fulfill: Make sure you've never kicked a football with a top level team or in fact worked with a top quality football manager for any period

ps....... Sam Allerdyce is not a top quality football manager, I know his team gave us a 3-1 hiding with our new manager in place, but that's just not enough

[bushman 2,043]

Look, there's a couple of pre-requisites that you need to have in your locker before you can be considered, namely:

• Can you completely avoid responsibility for footballing decisions you have had a part in?
• Have you never held a similar job at a top level club prior to potentially getting the start with CFC

If the answer to both these questions is YES then you've got the same potential the current two incumbants had, i.e. you're almost there.

Oh one last criteria to fulfill: Make sure you've never kicked a football with a top level team or in fact worked with a top quality football manager for any period

ps....... Sam Allerdyce is not a top quality football manager, I know his team gave us a 3-1 hiding with our new manager in place, but that's just not enough

Funny but if I were to doctor my CV, would I qualify then ?

Everybody else is doing it.

[MHL 47 378]

Funny but if I were to doctor my CV, would I qualify then ?

Everybody else is doing it.

Just do what the current two did, make sure Avram's in place at the club before you try to get the job.

The inadequate helping to appoint the incompetent!

[bushman 2,043]

Just do what the current two did, make sure Avram's in place at the club before you try to get the job.

The inadequate helping to appoint the incompetent!

I think that two of us should apply asap.

[Mundaka 243]

Perhaps a good speaker, like Bayerns fe could help to get things started?.

To get some excitement going at the start, same thing we did in belgium at standard (sclessin) which made a big difference. (they started a party but well, good example to get the folks warmed up in winter)

[bushman 2,043]

At the Bridge, no matter what is done the crowd will be sitting there just like dead ducks.

[Liquidator 5,176]

I was there last night in MHL and I haven't seen that many empty seats since Stamford Bridge was redeveloped.

It didn't mean a lot to most fans but then if we get Spurs in the next round or get to the final then tickets will be gone in a flash. There are some people (although not everyone) just using Benitez as an excuse not to bother going to less glamorous games yet will quite happily go to the final even when he is still in charge. To be fair some people are very firmly against Benitez and just wouldn't have gone regardless but there are others who will sneak into games against Man U and Spurs.

To be fair the Europa League isn't that bad a tournament, a lot of people just get put off it by constant taunting about 'Thursday nights, Channel 5' and so on. We took the piss out of Man U and Man City about it last season. It is the fans in this country that make it seem unattractive whereas in lots of countries they take it reasonably seriously.

Right, onto atmosphere.

The atmosphere at Stamford Bridge isn't great but I don't think it is awful either. There are times when it is like a graveyard but you get that in just about every stadium. A lot of people want to try to compare it to the atmosphere of other big clubs. These include Liverpool and Man United, both of whom actually have very poor atmospheres that are made out to be better by the pro-northern media and also in Man United's case having a bigger stadium than us. Bare in mind that our stadium capacity is only 41,000 (38,000 for European games) with tickets that are very expensive compared to other parts of Europe (particularly Germany) and you will realize that it isn't really possible to create an atmosphere like at Borussia Dortmund (80,000), Bayern Munich (67,000), Barcelona (98,000) (where they use speakers to make it seem louder), Ce**ic (60,000).

I'm not saying a bigger stadium would make for a better atmosphere though. Just look at Old Toilet or the Bernabeu, both of which can be like libraries. The solution is cheaper ticket prices like what they have in Germany (about £10 for an adult) to bring back our passionate support from the 70's and 80's but this obviously isn't financially viable because we can usually sell out with high ticket prices anyway. Therefore we are left in an awkward situation. Make more money or have louder fans. As we and many other large clubs these days are all about business, it is easy to see that in the interest of finance, more expensive ticket prices are the way forward.

Drogzola, coincidentally use of guys with speakers was suggested at a fans forum meeting with the club about 2 years ago. It was discussed but it never went any further than that.

In terms of being outsung by away fans, people comparing England with other countries should note that this is simply part of English football. We went to Old Toilet on Sunday and outsung their 65,000 or so fans and they will come down (or in most of their cases take a short tube journey) to Stamford Bridge next month and more than likely outsing us. Like only place to be said, we sing 'your support is shit' at an away game to home fans and they come to Stamford Bridge and do the same thing.

Why is it like that? I really don't know. It has been that way for a while though. Maybe it is because you generally only get around 2000-3000 away tickets and mainly loyal and thus in most cases the most vocal will go. The most loyal who get up to get on a train somewhere up north in the early hours etc. (Btw I'm not saying people who go to away games are better fans than those who go to home games only)

You make a day or sometimes a weekend of an away day. You sometimes find yourself pissed by 10AM because there is nothing else to do on a coach/train, you want to show the opposition fans that you are better than them and encourage the team by being louder despite there being far less of you (unless you are at Wigan where your own sanity is your worst enemy with all the bright red and blue empty seats). You are building yourself up for hours beforehand on a train/in a pub etc. on an away day so it is natural that you want to give it your all and shout as loud as you can for the 90 minutes you have to encourage your team.

Whereas as a home fan it is the same place you go every other week. There is not as much sense of adventure like there is on an away day. For a lot of the regular fans the ground is no more than 2 hours away. You can go out after lunch and be home in time for dinner. It doesn't feel as special because in some cases you are surrounded by people who don't care as much. They will cheer when we score in the last minute but on an away day you end up in some sort of bundle hugging someone you have never seen in your life because they care as much as you. This is sometimes but not always the case at a home game and it applies right across England IMO.

[Liquidator 5,176]

At the Bridge, no matter what is done the crowd will be sitting there just like dead ducks.

well maybe if you are such a die-hard supporter why don't you stop criticising people who do pay their hard-earned cash to go to games and go yourself? Oh wait you can't. You can watch from a nice warm home instead. I don't have a problem at all with foreign fans but people like you who continually slag off those who give up hundreds or thousands of pounds per year game after game really get on my nerves.

[bushman 2,043]

well maybe if you are such a die-hard supporter why don't you stop criticising people who do pay their hard-earned cash to go to games and go yourself? Oh wait you can't. You can watch from a nice warm home instead. I don't have a problem at all with foreign fans but people like you who continually slag off those who give up hundreds or thousands of pounds per year game after game really get on my nerves.

First of all, if I were to come to the Bridge I certainly would not sit there & twiddle my thumbs or yell stupidity as we seen so far.

I´d rather support my team vociferously.

A also find " foreign fans " just as reliable as your " domestic " ones.

[Liquidator 5,176]

First of all, if I were to come to the Bridge I certainly would not sit there & twiddle my thumbs or yell stupidity as we seen so far.

I´d rather support my team vociferously.

A also find " foreign fans " just as reliable as your " domestic " ones.

and do you assume that I sit and twiddle my thumbs? Considering on numerous occasions you have spelt out chants wrong does make me wonder. Like I said, I have no problem with foreign fans, just people like you who continually criticise our support.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

It did seem to get better towards the end,Shed end anyway.Mean the other stands might have been singing but never seems to travel well.Very empty but prices arent cheap so no wonder and they are playing crap so guess some think why bother

[bushman 2,043]

and do you assume that I sit and twiddle my thumbs? Considering on numerous occasions you have spelt out chants wrong does make me wonder. Like I said, I have no problem with foreign fans, just people like you who continually criticise our support.

Sometimes, criticism is warranted, I feel. Especially, when I see plenty of clueless signs & unwarranted whoops.