Marco Reus

Myself · October 11, 2014

Unfortunately not Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern.

We would fucking destroy Real Madrid or Barcelona on the counter. We could attack Bayern and still win.

Joker10 · October 11, 2014

Except PSG would and a host of other clubs would....
I dont buy Reus to England, its either Munich or Madrid and staying at Dortmund. I can see United being the darkhorse for Reus.

Reminds me of the early Cesc transfer saga on this thread. I thought it was a great match for the player and the club, and he eventually signed for us. Best argument other made was that Cesc wont want to play for Mou because they hate each other, thought that was non issue for everyone since both parties had clear respect for each other professionally.

I think Reus to Chelsea at the moment is great match for both parties. We desperately need regular production on the right flank, neither Schurrle, Willian, or Salah can provide that. If one of those players emerges this season then we don't need Reus, but as things stand Reus is a significant upgrade to what we have.

From the player prospective, he is going to a team that plays similar to Dortmund and under a similar manager. He wouldn't miss a beat coming here.

Real and Barca are already stockpiled at his position, moving to either club he would make the same mistake as former Dortmund players who have went to teams that clearly does not suit them and was not needed in the first place.

I also think Bayern are the fav, but outside of them i think we have a great shot at landing him.

Lots of time until the summer transfer window, a lot of things could change.

Barcelona guns for attacking players. However, due to their transfer ban and the signings of both Neymar and Suarez, signing Reus next season might be impossible....
United is the darkhorse team to get Reus, most likely not, but United was able to pull off Falcao, Di Maria, etc and if they give Reus the bank, United would have a better chance than anyone else, given City transfer ban and Chelsea fiscal policy these days.
United are a few players away from relevance and Reus would be one of the few players they go for/need.

What does that mean?

We clearly have the money to spend big, we are very equipped to spend big if see fit. Beside in this case that is irrelevant since from a financial standpoint many clubs can purchase Reus due to his low buyout clause.

Spike · October 11, 2014

Reus wont come to Chelsea.
Hes going to go to bayern or madrid.
Or maybe United...

I love posts like this because there is a lot of potential for it to be wrong in the future.

Nike · October 11, 2014

Reminds me of the early Cesc transfer saga on this thread. I thought it was a great match for the player and the club, and he eventually signed for us. Best argument other made was that Cesc wont want to play for Mou because they hate each other, thought that was non issue for everyone since both parties had clear respect for each other professionally.
I think Reus to Chelsea at the moment is great match for both parties. We desperately need regular production on the right flank, neither Schurrle, Willian, or Salah can provide that. If one of those players emerges this season then we don't need Reus, but as things stand Reus is a significant upgrade to what we have.
From the player prospective, he is going to a team that plays similar to Dortmund and under a similar manager. He wouldn't miss a beat coming here.
Real and Barca are already stockpiled at his position, moving to either club he would make the same mistake as former Dortmund players who have went to teams that clearly does not suit them and was not needed in the first place.
I also think Bayern are the fav, but outside of them i think we have a great shot at landing him.
Lots of time until the summer transfer window, a lot of things could change.

Munich is definitely the favorites, however, with Madrid, they get what they want and the glamour playing for the blancos might be too hard to pass up (money +brand too)

Reus is an upgrade from willian/schurrle/salah, but he would be an upgrade playing in the middle and the left, moreso than right wing and why would he be content playing right wing and doing defensive work all day for Jose? Klopp is not Jose, I can understand Simeone/atletico and Jose being similar, but Klopp is not...The system in BVB is not the same.

iseah100 · October 11, 2014

Reminds me of the early Cesc transfer saga on this thread. I thought it was a great match for the player and the club, and he eventually signed for us. Best argument other made was that Cesc wont want to play for Mou because they hate each other, thought that was non issue for everyone since both parties had clear respect for each other professionally.
I think Reus to Chelsea at the moment is great match for both parties. We desperately need regular production on the right flank, neither Schurrle, Willian, or Salah can provide that. If one of those players emerges this season then we don't need Reus, but as things stand Reus is a significant upgrade to what we have.
From the player prospective, he is going to a team that plays similar to Dortmund and under a similar manager. He wouldn't miss a beat coming here.
Real and Barca are already stockpiled at his position, moving to either club he would make the same mistake as former Dortmund players who have went to teams that clearly does not suit them and was not needed in the first place.
I also think Bayern are the fav, but outside of them i think we have a great shot at landing him.
Lots of time until the summer transfer window, a lot of things could change.

This.

Real have Bale, James, Jese, Ronaldo, for the wings, why would Reus go there?

Barca have Suarez, Neymar for the wings. Reus won't want to be behind them, not to mention they're banned.

It'll be between us and Bayern. Reus seems like the kind of player who would choose the best option for him, not the best price, so that would rule out Bayern City, and PSG. Hopefully.

Nike · October 11, 2014

I love posts like this because there is a lot of potential for it to be wrong in the future.

The only transfer I got wrong recently was Cesc...

However, I think most people got Cesc wrong....

iseah100 · October 11, 2014

The only transfer I got wrong recently was Cesc...
However, I think most people got Cesc wrong....

He played RW at Mochengladbach. Was on the team of the season in 11-12, on the rw. He's more than capable of being effective on the rw.

Nike · October 11, 2014

This.
Real have Bale, James, Jese, Ronaldo, for the wings, why would Reus go there?
Barca have Suarez, Neymar for the wings. Reus won't want to be behind them, not to mention they're banned.
It'll be between us and Bayern. Reus seems like the kind of player who would choose the best option for him, not the best price, so that would rule out Bayern City, and PSG. Hopefully.

Because Real gets what they want.

They had Isco, they bought james.

They had Di Maria/ozil, they bought Bale.

They had illarmendi/alonso, they bought kroos.

They had Marcelo and paid the highest transfer fee for a fullback in Coentrao...

Munich has 2 guys, robben and ribery that have a year or so in them... Gotze came to munich even though he didnt start as did Thiago. They knew what the future of the team would be...

Chelsea has a 23, 23, 22,24, and willian.

He played RW at Mochengladbach. Was on the team of the season in 11-12, on the rw. He's more than capable of being effective on the rw.

Marco Rues played more as a second striker, than a right winger that year he won poty.

BlueLyon · October 11, 2014

He played RW at Mochengladbach. Was on the team of the season in 11-12, on the rw. He's more than capable of being effective on the rw.

He was also buli player of the year that season.

iseah100 · October 11, 2014

Because Real gets what they want.
They had Isco, they bought james.
They had Di Maria/ozil, they bought Bale.
They had illarmendi/alonso, they bought kroos.
They had Marcelo and paid the highest transfer fee for a fullback in Coentrao...
Munich has 2 guys, robben and ribery that have a year or so in them... Gotze came to munich even though he didnt start as did Thiago. They knew what the future of the team would be...
Chelsea has a 23, 23, 22,24, and willian.

Like I said, Reus seems like a smart guy, he already turned down Bayern once. Gotze was 20 when he left, Thiago was 22 and got injured a lot.

Reus is 25 and one of the 10 best players in the world, in his prime. Completely different situations.

Bayern have Ribery and Robben on huge wages, so they won't bench them. And they have Muller, Shaqiri, and Gotze.

Nike · October 11, 2014

Like I said, Reus seems like a smart guy, he already turned down Bayern once. Gotze was 20 when he left, Thiago was 22 and got injured a lot.
Reus is 25 and one of the 10 best players in the world, in his prime. Completely different situations.

Gotze was the world's best young player outside of neymar... Reus wasnt part of the champion dortmund teams, Gotze was...

iseah100 · October 11, 2014

Gotze was the world's best young player outside of neymar... Reus wasnt part of the champion dortmund teams, Gotze was...

Ok?

iseah100 · October 11, 2014

He was also buli player of the year that season.

Exactly. But according to Nike, he's no good on the RW and inly effective on the left or through the middle. Uhhh?

Nike · October 11, 2014

http://bundesligafanatic.com/the-indomitable-rise-of-marco-reus/

GO READ IT and see how Marco Reus played right winger for Gladbach...

November 25, 2011 |

The Indomitable Rise of Marco Reus by Daniel Nyari

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Nowadays one cannot escape the myriad of talent lacing the Bundesliga. There is an unrivaled number of up-and-coming and established young talent just about everywhere you look. Whether it is Thomas Müller, Toni Kroos, Jerome Boateng, Holget Badstuber at Bayern Munich, Mario Götze, Kevin Grosskreutz, Shinji Kagawa, Mats Hummels, Moritz Leitner, Sven Bender, Ilkay Gündogan, Ivan Perisic and Robert Lewandowski at Borussia Dortmund or Lars Bender, Sidney Sam and Andre Schürrle at Leverkusen and Lewis Holtby, Benedikt Höwedes and Julian Draxler at Schalke, there is simply no shortage of talent in the Bundesliga. One can claim with a good degree of certainty that they have all displayed the potential to become true World Class stars and many of them have already established themselves as regular internationals with others continuing to challenge for their spots.

This new generation of talent has continued to flourish into the new season and add to the league’s burgeoning young and talent-laden reputation. The last two seasons have seen the rise of some of Europe’s finest. 2009/10 saw Mesut Özil take the next step and distinguish himself while last season it was Mario Götze who made his mark as a player to watch. This year is no different and as the Hinrunde is coming to a close several of those young players have continued to distinguished from all others but one player has stood above the rest and is increasingly becoming this year’s hot property, namely, Marco Reus. The Borussia Mönchengladbach star’s rise is not an unexpected one – rather it has been in the making for nearly two years now. What makes Reus a special player is quite different than what set Götze and Özil apart. Quite simply, there is nobody else in the league who can play the role Reus does or have the combined abilities he does. Whereas the influx of playmakers, central midfielders and wide-forwards in the league has been excellent, Marco Reus stands out as the most unique of all.

Reus on the rise

To understand Reus’ ascent we also have to understand the trajectory of his clubs. Originally from Dortmund, Reus played for hometown side Post SV Dortmund before making the jump to the Borussia Dortmund youth side where he played until he left for Rot-Wiess Ahlen’s U-19. It was there where he would first make a name for himself as a professional footballer. Originally played as an attacking midfielder and then later placed out wide he worked his way up to the first team until impressive displays in the 2. Bundesliga in 2008/2009 got him a four year contract with Borussia Mönchengladbach. There it took just three matches for him to get his first goal for the club in an amazing 50+ meter solo run. Under Michael Frontzeck he wasused as a winger but he showed a clear nose for goal finishing the 2009/2010 season with 11 goals and 4 assists. Gladbach meanwhile finished in 12th place.

Halfway through the following season though the club found itself in the precarious position of battling the drop. Frontzeck was dismissed and it was up to new coach Lucien Favre to turn the fortunes of the club around. With only 16 points from 22 matches he had a seemingly impossible task, one that was never matched in the history of the league. But the Swiss coach managed the greatest escape in Bundesliga history. In the remaining fourteen matches the club picked up twenty points including winning three of their last four matches against the likes of Hannover and Borussia Dortmund, consequently finishing in 16th place which sent them to the relegation play-off against 2.Bundesliga side Bochum. Favre put his faith in Reus when he most needed him and that trust was repaid ten times over. He excelled under this extreme pressure,scoring four times in the last six matches as well as the decisive goal that saw Gladbach beat Bochum and retain a position in the Bundesliga. Reus finished the season as one of the league’s best players with 12 goals and 10 assists, all while largely playing as a winger for a side fighting relegation.

Favre’s importance to Gladbach cannot be understated but neither can Reus’s importance.
Since taking on the job, Favre instilled a strong defensive approach without sacrificing any of the attacking play. He encouraged Reus to play out wide but gave him carte blanche to cut in and take part in Gladbach’s scoring. This season Favre went a step further. He re-structured the side around Reus and has instructed him to play centrally. This is where Reus truly began to shine and it is a strong testament to just how versatile and gifted a player he is. So far this season with just 13 matches gone he has already amassed 11 goals and 4 assists.

Reus the False 9 and the False 10

Trends in football come and go. Apropos now is the 4-2-3-1 where specialized players have evolved to suit the formation. One such position is something akin to the ‘False 10’ role typified last summer by the likes of Holland’s Wesley Sneijder or Germany’s Mesut Özil. Players who are instinctively playmakers but play extremely close to the strikers, almost assupporting strikers but not quite. Other formations including Barcelona’s 4-3-3 have yielded ‘False 9’s’ – strikers who really don’t fit the mold of traditional forwards and are equally creative as well as excellent scorers. Messi and Rooney are players who have played in this position in recent years.

Germany’s general lack of tactical innovation (or unwillingness to make big alterations to their systems) always sees the league catch up to modern trends slightly late relative to other leagues. Most Bundesliga sides are more conservative in their approach, having just recently begun to utilize the standard 4-2-3-1 formations and others still sticking with the more traditional 4-4-2. With the recent restructuring of the academy system throughout the country and a greater focus on individual technique though, the Bundesliga has been and continues to produce more talent suited to the modern 4-2-3-1. Its’ central midfielders are more than just standard harassers and destroyers but have the necessary finesse and smarts to rival the best in the World. The Bender brothers, Holtby, Kroos, Gündogan, Leitner, and Sahin are all perfect examples. Its’ attacking wide players are just as impressive with the likes of Schürrle, Herrmann, and Müller all capable of playing out wide, scoring, cutting in, and interchanging fluently. Even Germany’s central defenders hold similar traits with regard to their overall game intelligence and versatility. What sets Reus apart from the rest however is not only that he encapsulates all the aforementioned traits but also represents the next stage in the evolution of the tactical game. He can be a wing-forward who can easily start out wide and perform its’ primary function. He can just as easily play off the striker as he has done for most of the season but more impressive is his ability to play in the ‘false nine’ role and it is in this regard that he is in a category all his own within the Bundesliga. No other players have the collective ability or have shown to be able to play this role to the extent Marco Reus has.

Borussia Mönchengladbach's Starting 4-2-3-1 Formation & Shape

Borussia Mönchengladbach's 4-2-1-3 Formation & Shape During Match.

Gladbach play with a loose 4-2-3-1 formation. Hanke spearheads the attack with Herrmann and Arrango as the two wide players and Reus just behind in the same role Özil occupies for the National Team. His role here is more advanced. Gladbach however change their shape throughout the course of a match. Hanke drops allowing Reus to push up. Meanwhile the two wide players have license to interchange and push forward as well. Both were instrumental in all the goals Gladbach scored against Bremen. Essentially what the shape becomes is more of a 4-2-1-3 in which there are three advanced players attacking the goal and one player behind them to orchestrate. Sometimes that’s Reus, sometimes Arango and sometimes even Hanke, depending on the opponent. It’s this interchangeability that has allowed Favre’s Gladbach to thrive and why it’s so difficult for opponents to deal with.

Like most false nines, Reus starts deeper with the synergy of the players around him, assumes the most advanced role as he pushes forward. In effect, Reus plays a dual role. When Hanke is the most advanced player, Reus is the playmaker or False 10 because he simultaneously sits outside the box and feeds the channels as well as pushes forward when there are gaps to get at the end of balls. When Hanke drops Reus plays a similar role to Messi, being the most advanced player but choosing his runs thus making it incredibly difficult for Bundesliga players to predict his movement let alone stop it.

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Reus' position for Gladbach's second goal vs. Werder Bremen. Note how deep he picks up the ball before driving forward and finishing superbly

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Reus picks up the ball deep in midfield, plays it out to Herrman and drives forward and received the ball for his second goal of the night

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Reus as 'False 10'. He picks up the ball in midfield and acts as decoy for remaining attackers

Reus' heatmap after Bremen match indicates just how much ground he covers and how often his game centers around initially dropping deep and driving forward

Reus’ goal output has surely increased due to his new positional responsibilities but it is simply because it has always been an inherent part of his game – he is the complete attacking player. Like a Rooney or Messi, he is the ideal foil for wing-forwards who cut into the middle or look to play the channels that are created by Reus. Moreover he is the ideal player for an Özil or Götze who like to drop off and anticipate runs.

In the context of the National Team, his inclusion immediately begs the question whether it is entirely necessary to include a third striker to cover for Klose and Gomez, [in this case Cacau] when Reus is available and can readily assume that role. In a recent friendly Löw introduced Reus but played him on the right wing instead – perhaps an indicator of what the manager has in store for him. Suffice to say, Reus certainly gives Löw the option to experiment like he did in the Ukraine match which indicates that the manager may be more liberal in toying with his tactics than most think. More importantly if Reus continues his fine form, Löw won’t have a choice but to include him.

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