MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Exactly my thinking. It's about timing. Last summer if Falcao was available on loan we would have snatched at it.Next year he will leave IMO. Madrid will not buy and neither will Munich. PSG is a maybe just because you can't rule then out. MU have no room. Arsenal haven't got the balls to sign for a delivery. Liverpool could be a possibility. CL again and wouldn't put it last them to buy him. Hopefully not.PSG is probably a yes, their fund are available again and it is not even limited to 50m anymore. MU they might if Falcao/RVP decides to leave. Arsenal yeah they are shit at dealing, Liverpool cannot compete with us on wages.Either way I see his options very limited, a move to anywhere else in Germany is a no go unless it is Bayern. So his choices are:MU(unlikely unless someone leaves)City-could actually be possible but hope not, their CAM are also good enoughArsenal-LOL who won't even pay 6m for Falcao loanLiverpool-Can't compete on wagesBayern-most likely, but depends on RiberyPSG-probably will, hopefully not Barca-banned on transfer till 2016Real Madrid-think Perez will learn his lesson this summerAtletico-can't competeThat or unless he moves to Zenit or some middle east side, which I would find very unlikely. With PSG, Bayern, City, MU and us to battle it out eventually imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well tbf this summer has been that. If you search career mode as Bayern you will probably buy Benatia. If you were us you would probably get Costa or Fab, MU LOOOOOL, Real LOOOOOOOOOOL, Atletico LOOOOOOL, Barcelona-same apart from the CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Only thing I would say is that Madrid seems to have a thing with buying the next shiny German. Started with Ozil and Khedira, then Kroos. May have a pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Tell me we aren't living in an era of football manager? MU just bought Falcao and Di Maria with Rooney and RVP.Madrid have been doing FM for years Munich have literally stuck to the German version of football manager.Well tbf this summer has been that. If you search career mode as Bayern you will probably buy Benatia. If you were us you would probably get Costa or Fab, MU LOOOOOL, Real LOOOOOOOOOOL, Atletico LOOOOOOL, Barcelona-same apart from the CBSo because others have done it, we have to follow as well? Nice logic. Some of them, like in Real Madrid's case, bought a few of the Galacticos when they don't even need them at all (like in this situation of people suggesting us to get Reus when we don't need him) while others like Manchester United need some of those players they have bought. The only difference with them is that their spending has lacked direction and seemed reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 So because others have done it, we have to follow as well? Nice logic. Some of them, like in Real Madrid's case, bought a few of the Galacticos when they don't even need them at all (like in this situation of people suggesting us to get Reus when we don't need him) while others like Manchester United need some of those players they have bought. The only difference with them is that their spending has lacked direction and seemed reckless.No. Others have done which shows a 'football manager transfer' is not so unlikely in this day and age. But this is not the same as a Madrid. We will not making a lop sided team with not steal like Madrid. Have you seen how good Reus presses? Would make a situation opposite to madrids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 No. Others have done which shows a 'football manager transfer' is not so unlikely in this day and age.But this is not the same as a Madrid. We will not making a lop sided team with not steal like Madrid. Have you seen how good Reus presses?Would make a situation opposite to madrids!The point is we don't even need Reus and yet you want us to stockpile more AMs in the team. It's similar to how Real operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The point is we don't even need Reus and yet you want us to stockpile more AMs in the team. It's similar to how Real operate.Yeah we don't need him just like we didn't need Salah or Schurrle and Willian at the same time. If we go by need we probably would have promoted Josh to the team and not sign Fabregas or use Bamford as ST instead of Costa. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE NEED.It depends how good is the player and the fee involved, I mean selling Salah for Reus is a no brainier, improve the squad straight away. Also we didn't need to sell Ba and Eto'o but still do anyway for better options(Remy and Costa). If you go by 'need' argument we will never sign top top players again, we didn't have to sign Hazard, still had Kalou and Bertrand who could play LW But it is alright, Salah will make it big here I suppose. Seriously, Reus for 30m and 100k or about so is a fricking bargain, top 10 wingers in the world for a reasonable fee and we pass on because we 'don't need' him? hahahahha. This is not Sanchez or Di Maria(overpriced or not good enough to pursue, this is a winger who is top 5 in the world at 1 point and with top work rate/pressing skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I would take Reus and shift Willian tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah we don't need him just like we didn't need Salah or Schurrle and Willian at the same time. If we go by need we probably would have promoted Josh to the team and not sign Fabregas or use Bamford as ST instead of Costa. WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE NEED.It depends how good is the player and the fee involved, I mean selling Salah for Reus is a no brainier, improve the squad straight away. Also we didn't need to sell Ba and Eto'o but still do anyway for better options(Remy and Costa). If you go by 'need' argument we will never sign top top players again, we didn't have to sign Hazard, still had Kalou and Bertrand who could play LW But it is alright, Salah will make it big here I suppose. Seriously, Reus for 30m and 100k or about so is a fricking bargain, top 10 wingers in the world for a reasonable fee and we pass on because we 'don't need' him? hahahahha. This is not Sanchez or Di Maria(overpriced or not good enough to pursue, this is a winger who is top 5 in the world at 1 point and with top work rate/pressing skill.Funny thing about this how you're driving the comparison of Reus and Salah as opposed to Schurrle and Willian. Goes along with your agenda in the Salah thread doesn't it?Good job as well in taking the "we don't need Reus" out of context like you did there when I didn't even mean that in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I would take Reus and shift Willian tbh. If he can improve on his end product in the final third, don't think I would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Funny thing about this how you're driving the comparison of Reus and Salah as opposed to Schurrle and Willian. Goes along with your agenda in the Salah thread doesn't it?Good job as well in taking the "we don't need Reus" out of context like you did there when I didn't even mean that in the first place. Yeah logically replacing Salah with him look realistic. Yes he is up there with Hazard, probably even better judging by his stats. But if I start to compare him with the likes of Oscar and Willian others will come in and say you will always want something better, spoiled...blah blah blah. Naaa I speak the truth based on what I have seen with the club these years, Salah is not gonna make it here and people seems too reluctant to accept that. If he can improve on his end product in the final third, don't think I would do that.If Oscar bangs in 20 goals like Reus we wouldn't even be having this conversation about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 If he can improve on his end product in the final third, don't think I would do that.Huge if. Rooting for Willian though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 But people aren't over the moon with our AMs? Willian frustrated people with his lack of attacking threat. The cameo against Leicester was all well and good but he did squat in the final third against Everton. He completed ONE take on a a cross which didn't pick anyone out. This in the most open game I've seen in a while with 8 goals. Schurrle and willian are good players, but it's telling that none of them have held down a starting place, Oscar as well, though he may do through midfield control rather than being a good AM. We can upgrade, if we are to buy another then Salah is the obvious choice. Of course we won't buy without selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah logically replacing Salah with him look realistic. Yes he is up there with Hazard, probably even better judging by his stats. But if I start to compare him with the likes of Oscar and Willian others will come in and say you will always want something better, spoiled...blah blah blah. Naaa I speak the truth based on what I have seen with the club these years, Salah is not gonna make it here and people seems too reluctant to accept that.If you have a point to make with good evidence to back it up, then why should you be afraid of what others may reply to your post?I don't think it's a case of people too reluctant to accept Salah has no future at the club but more so, no one is gonna write him THAT fast after just 3 games into the season. You were the one who went into 'panic' mode thinking we're gonna sell him next summer or even in January just because he hasn't played this season.If Oscar bangs in 20 goals like Reus we wouldn't even be having this conversation about him.Wasn't even talking about Oscar. And it's surprising you even mentioned him considering it has all been about Salah-Reus for you in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 For me, if Reus is coming in, one of the more senior AMs has to leave, not Salah. I doubt one Schurrle, Oscar or Willian would accept being 5th choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hes one of my fav non Chelsea players. Such pure talent. Thats why I would love see him here one day, but tbh we dont need him unless we sell Willian/Oscar at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 For me, if Reus is coming in, one of the more senior AMs has to leave, not Salah. I doubt one Schurrle, Oscar or Willian would accept being 5th choice.I wouldn't even put Oscar into the equation here considering he operates in the CAM position and Reus is more of a wide player. Considering the way we are playing under Mourinho, I'm not even sure if anyone else would come close to what Oscar does for the team.And if we buy Reus (or whoever else), people are gonna complain we never give the youths a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I wouldn't even put Oscar into the equation here considering he operates in the CAM position and Reus is more of a wide player.And if we buy Reus (or whoever else), people are gonna complain we never give the youths a chance.That's correct, I shouldn't have tbh. Oscar is slowly becoming a very vital piece in the system. My statement still applies to Schurrle and Willian though. Less so to Salah because as I said, he's comfortable with being 5th choice. So one of Schurrle (unlikely) or Willian out, and Reus in. Senior player in, senior player out. Would be okay I think. If one of our younger AMs are showing huge potential then perhaps we could offload Salah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 That's correct, I shouldn't have tbh. Oscar is slowly becoming a very vital piece in the system. My statement still applies to Schurrle and Willian though. Less so to Salah because as I said, he's comfortable with being 5th choice.So one of Schurrle (unlikely) or Willian out, and Reus in. Senior player in, senior player out. Would be okay I think.If one of our younger AMs are showing huge potential then perhaps we could offload Salah.Out of the AM's we have loaned out (e.g Piazon, Traore, Atsu, Moses & Hazard)...who do you think is most likely to make it?In my opinion, if Traore can get a work permit, he's got the ability to be our 5th AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Out of the AM's we have loaned out (e.g Piazon, Traore, Atsu, Moses & Hazard)...who do you think is most likely to make it?In my opinion, if Traore can get a work permit, he's got the ability to be our 5th AMHazard because he is the most complete in terns of offering both attacking and defensive qualities. Can play in more positions. Depending in how he does, Atsu may do so first. Regardless, do people really think that IF ( big IF) mourinho wanted Reus he wouldn't because we already have enough senior players who wouldn't be happier as back ups? Hello!!!! Petr Cech anybody? If it improves us, and he would, we will do it. Why buy modric at Madrid when Alonso and Khedira were playing so good together? He took then up a notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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