chrismada9 1,948 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 1 sec, i'll give him a ring.you'll be there a long while, I bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 you'll be there a long while, I bet!If i had his number he would probably shoot me for waking him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If i had his number he would probably shoot me for waking him up.Nah, he is probably banging 100 hot Russians in his private 200ft yatch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Nah, he is probably banging 100 hot Russians in his private 200ft yatch...Probably, he seems like a good multitasker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Probably, he seems like a good multitasker.LOOOOOOOOOOOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Probably, he seems like a good multitasker.Pity he doesn't "multitask" for the right reasons then? Thus the arrival of the fat spanish scouser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Pity he doesn't "multitask" for the right reasons then? Thus the arrival of the fat spanish scouser!It's probably easier with 100 russian women everything comes naturally (No pun intended ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think my rants over and i am gonna go watch a film...See you all tommorrow in the official "Rafa is sacked" thread tommorrow (one can dream). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It's probably easier with 100 russian women everything comes naturally (No pun intended ) :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think my rants over and i am gonna go watch a film...See you all tommorrow in the official "Rafa is sacked" thread tommorrow (one can dream).Good night man! My rants are over too, going to visit my girl and forget about this fucking mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm gonna stay here and rant guys. Even if it's to myself. RAFA OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Good night man! My rants are over too, going to visit my girl and forget about this fucking mess...Not a bad idea... Have a good evening mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I think my rants over and i am gonna go watch a film...See you all tommorrow in the official "Rafa is sacked" thread tommorrow (one can dream).To be replaced (with a nod to The Simpsons) with an inanimate carbon rod who will lead us to an amazing Premier League comeback! "In rod we trust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC 13 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Incredible, isn't it ? How fucking shit teams like QPR, READING,SOTON just score with EVERY shot on goal against us.Oscar, even though had a decent game, with some atrocious decision when on goal. Shoots when he should have passed, passes when should have taken a shot. Mata. what can you say, assist and a superb goal. Torres was good for a change. Ramires and Lamps weren't bad either. Turnbull is such a fucking joke of a player. Just look at his positioning at the first goal; laughable. Bertrand, again, by far the worst player on the pitch today.Benitez with the worst fucking subs you'll ever see. What the fuck was that about? On top of all that: 5 MINUTES? For WHAT? There were no serious injuries, and it was damn sure not because of subs. Should have been 3 minutes at best but still, that's not a reason we should fucking draw after being 2 up. That's exactly what I said when I was watching the game. 5 minutes makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The last goal, what were they doing? It seems some already left the pitch. It looked like half of them were playing for offside and the other half weren't. Complete disorganization and miscommunication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 You know what, sometimes you can say the other team deserved it, like Swansea and West Ham for instance, but this is just getting fucking stupid.Reading didn't deserve a fucking thing, we smashed them, Oscar should've put away two easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Yes, because SAF has that option. He made three subs and only one of them was defensive which he could do because Jones is very capable of playing midfield. ManU starts with an incredibly attacking formation so going slightly more defensive is easy. What option did Chelsea have to go more defensive? We started with five defenders in the starting XI.. It was already a very defensive lineup. And it's not like Reading were coming on and Rafa didn't react. Reading had zero decent scoring chances until the 87th minute. We were dominating them. We looked much much more likely to score a third than they did to score at all. I want Rafa gone as much as the next guy, but I get annoyed at the knee-jerk blame stuff. We had 67% of possession, we outshot them 15-5. Did Rafa tell Oscar to keep missing the net? Did he say to his defenders "just stand in a bunch together and don't mark anyone?" At some point, the players have to take responsibility. I don't care who is on the pitch. You don't let a 2-0 lead against Reading with 8 minutes to go. Criticizing substitutions is easy because your alternate reality of substitutions will never exist so will forever be theoretically perfect. I am fine with criticizing Benitez for our lack of organization and even our lack of passion, but the players' have to take most of the blame for our poor performances. (the board gets a lot of it too. The inability to ensure that we have any depth has been disastrous.) some of our players have gotten complacent because rafa can easily get the blame. Oscar missing point blank chances, just so bad for us. Rafa is still a c*nt though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I hated the starting XI because I hate Bertrand on the wing, but the team was almost as good as could have been (I would have preferred Benayoun/Marin for Bertrand and Ba is better than Torres but 9 of your best available 11 players is hardly fielding a weak lineup). I prefer Ba to Torres generally, but Torres was excellent he created about three or four very good chances, his movement was very good, and he worked hard. He was responsible for the first goal. Ba and Torres are going to rotate and I'd rather Torres play against weaker sides...and Ba is, I assume, going to start against Newcastle which we need him for. Also, switching formations is not a simple thing. Most teams don't do it during games. Players don't know where they are supposed to be, they don't know their responsibilities, their lanes, their outlets. I can criticize Benitez for doing defender for defender when we are behind and we have attacking players available. (Bringing on Ba on the 82nd minute against Brentford WAS inexcusable IMO.) but we had a defensive formation already. Although I do have to question the marking on that last play...was it Rafa's zonal marking? I watched it again...just awful, so awful, it's almost impossible to comprehend. We had FIVE players in the middle of the box...who do we put on Le Fondre? Nobody! In fact, on the far side of the net, after our wall of Chelsea players, we have Benayoun and Azpilicueta marking four Reading players. The ball falls to the first of the Reading players and Benayoun and Azpilicueta close, he heads it on and there are THREE unmarked Reading players. In fact, even if Le Fondre forces a save, there are two unmarked Reading players now on the right side and still three on the left so a rebound is probably a goal as well. Players make mistakes, sometimes bad ones. It happens under every manager and to almost every player at some point, but that is one of the worst pieces of team defending I have ever seen from Chelsea and Rafa does need to take some blame for that. So many questions:1-Why was the opposition's biggest goal threat not being marked at all?2- Why where the closest players to him not someone like Cahill and Ivanovic but rather Azpilicueta and Benayoun?3-Who was supposed to be marking which player because I have no idea even watching the clip repeatedly.4-What the fuck??? .It sure looked like it was zonal marking...which I quite frankly hate. Its useful to setup counter attacks, but to me its nothing but a massive gamble. We used it under AVB as well and it bombed... With regards to Bertrand, I don't see why he couldn't play Ba in his position. Its not as if Ba is naive when it comes to tactics, and for sure he'll have better chemistry with Torres than Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 It sure looked like it was zonal marking...which I quite frankly hate. Its useful to setup counter attacks, but to me its nothing but a massive gamble. We used it under AVB as well and it bombed... With regards to Bertrand, I don't see why he couldn't play Ba in his position. Its not as if Ba is naive when it comes to tactics, and for sure he'll have better chemistry with Torres than Ryan.Ba played on the wing with Newcastle so he can. The problem I have with that is that what if we were 0-0 or down 1-0 in the 60th minute (or, for Rafa, the 80th). Who do we bring on for extra offense? It's like the reverse of the problem we had today where we started with Bertrand on the wing so couldn't really get more defensive. And yeah, I think it was zonal marking except it looked like they'd all had one two minute practice to learn it. What complete mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm fucking sick of waking up at 4am on a Wednesday night/Thursday morning and then having to go back to bed at 6 feeling completely depressed and then dragging myself out of bed a short while later for work/school. This is the 5th time it's happened in a row, after QPR, Swansea, Southampton, Swansea again and Reading yesterday. I wouldn't give a fuck if they were unlucky results or something. But to watch some of these muppets put in zero effort and that twat of a manager making useless decisions after another is just.. tiring tbh. It's a JOKE and WE'RE the joke: having to watch this debacle get worse and worse every week.Can't imagine how those who spend their wages to go watch the games (especially the away ones) feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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