didierforever 7,349 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 we dint "save" on BA's wages. he would have been loaned/sold anyways. in FFP terms we just break even (make a slight profit of 750k).probbaly the only "bad" business that our club has done in this window. however u look at it, 6mil euros is very low for a goal scorer like BA. all i can thik is that BA wanted to go to besiktas for some reason. sure thing is that we would not have been short on offers for him from PL clubs and we would have gotten quite a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 He won't be forgotten in English football, his name will be chanted by home fans in every stadium bar Anfield in England for years to come. DavidEU, Jype and didierforever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behemoth 266 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thank you Demba. Good luck at Besiktas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 It could come back to bite us if we sold him to another PL club, considering the great spell of form he had for Newcastle. It's worth selling him for less to avoid seeing him at the Bridge, would rather Liverpool had the likes of Lambert than Ba for example. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 we dint "save" on BA's wages.Of course we did. You should read this :How Selling Clubs Account for their IncomeThe other important amortisation issue is the accounting procedure when a player is sold. On this topic I defer to the Swiss Ramble who uses the ex-Manchester City player Robinho as an example:“[H]e was bought for £32.5 million in September 2008 on a four-year contract, so annual amortisation was £8.1 million. He was sold after two years, so cumulative amortisation was £16.2 million, leaving a value of £16.3m in the books. Sale price to Milan is reported as £18 million, so City will report a profit on sale of £1.7 million in the 2010/11 accounts. Therefore, City will show an annual profit improvement of £18.1 million after this deal: £8.3 million lower wages + £8.1 million lower amortisation + £1.7 million profit on sale.”This demonstrates how clubs write-off the transfer value of a player over the life-time of their contract and also illuminates that because Robinho was worth £16.3m two years into his four year deal, Manchester City actually made an accounting profit on his transfer of £1.7m. Fans would see the sale of a player for £18m bought two years previously for £32.5m as bad business. The club in their accounts will class it as a £18.1m profit improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Of course we did. You should read this :http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/24/5335580/juan-mata-transfer-manchester-united-chelsea-financesthis one makes more sense. i mean why would the "profit" include the salary and the amortisation fee. i mean specially the latter. the profit by selling already takes into account the amortisation fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 thank you for stopping Liverpool winning the league xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/1/24/5335580/juan-mata-transfer-manchester-united-chelsea-financesthis one makes more sense. i mean why would the "profit" include the salary and the amortisation fee. i mean specially the latter. the profit by selling already takes into account the amortisation fee. I don't understand what you are saying...The little paragraph I quoted above explains how both - the wages as well as the transfer fee are accounted for by the selling club. It explains why we did indeed 'save' on Ba's wage hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't understand what you are saying...The little paragraph I quoted above explains how both - the wages as well as the transfer fee are accounted for by the selling club. It explains why we did indeed 'save' on Ba's wage hit and why our accounts will actually show a £6m profit for the next 2 years.did u read the article of wagnh?also, the ACTUAL profit we made is just 750k. i know what u r trying to say, and hence the "save" i used was meant to be the money we actually saved, not the FFP-wise money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 did u read the article of wagnh?also, the ACTUAL profit we made is just 750k. i know what u r trying to say, and hence the "save" i used was meant to be the money we actually saved, not the FFP-wise money.Actually, the 750k profit *is* a FFP profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Actually, the 750k profit *is* a FFP profit.now even i am confused. the articles from WAGNH says we made a certain profit on mata taking into account his amortized value and his salary that we paid for that particular year. which makes sense, since mata spent half a season here. as for BA, he had 4mil of value left, and he is sold for 4.75. which makes his profit as 750k. that is BA's account for us this season. why would his wage be included in the profit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 now even i am confused. the articles from WAGNH says we made a certain profit on mata taking into account his amortized value and his salary that we paid for that particular year. which makes sense, since mata spent half a season here. as for BA, he had 4mil of value left, and he is sold for 4.75. which makes his profit as 750k. that is BA's account for us this season. why would his wage be included in the profit?Wages is an expense. We reduced our expenses. That is not the same as profit. The profit is in fact 750k. But the lower wage bill makes a huge difference and has the same impact as profit in FFP terms because we can spend only as much as we make. So instead of being only able to spend 750k we can spend 750k + his salary which will still have a net impact of 0 in FFP terms. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Will miss Demba Ba. Awesome guy.Dembabafoot, have you any goals? Yes sir yes sir two bags full, one for the big boss and one for the fans, both for those liver pools who dared played the blues.Thanks for the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Nvm. 1chelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Went too cheap. His worth about £8 million in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Scored two tonight apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Hattrick for Demba against Feyenoord in the Champions league qualification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Not surprised at all. this is again a testament to our lack of creativity. If you feed quality/decent strikers, they are bound to put a couple away. that's basic rule of law of averages. And if we don't improve on our creativity, I won't be surprised if Costa flops. hope that won't be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 http://fitbamob.com/b/yDvuSBh/Dare to Demba! Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 http://fitbamob.com/b/yDvuSBh/Dare to Demba!What a clinical finish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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