Fernando Torres

[didierforever 7,349]

I know I will get lynched, killed and my Internet burned down...

I agree with you 100% - but some part of me just wants to see what Mourinho can do with him...

Ramires has looked a different player in the 3 games I have seen so far - he's gone from Frustrating to Fucking Amazing. It's not the same guy and yes whilst there's been more false dawns for Torres than anything - I just have a sneaking suspicion he will do well under Mourinho... Mourinho forces players to be better and I think Torres needs that, they've tried the carrot - now try the stick!

However if someone bids 30million - I will drive him to Russia personally

i think even mou has given up on torres already. the fact that we are in for buying rooney inspite of having 3 strikers, one of which is torres, tells u exactly what mou thinks of the guy.

[Tomo 21,733]

I know I will get lynched, killed and my Internet burned down...

I agree with you 100% - but some part of me just wants to see what Mourinho can do with him...

Ramires has looked a different player in the 3 games I have seen so far - he's gone from Frustrating to Fucking Amazing. It's not the same guy and yes whilst there's been more false dawns for Torres than anything - I just have a sneaking suspicion he will do well under Mourinho... Mourinho forces players to be better and I think Torres needs that, they've tried the carrot - now try the stick!

However if someone bids 30million - I will drive him to Russia personally

I can see why it would be tempting but not even Jose is that special imo, if he couldn't revive Kaka i can't for the life of me see how he would bring Torres back to life.

[Tomo 21,733]

[Barbara 15,149]

Torres' preparation to the new season:

it's going to be a very long season... *sighs*

[edenhazard17 281]

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/226295.html

Valencia planning Torres swoop

Fernando Torres could be heading back to La Liga after reports suggest Valencia will attempt to replace Roberto Soldado with the Chelsea striker.

Soldado is nearing a switch to Tottenham in a £26 million deal, and with the role up front being vacated by the club captain at the Mestalla, Valencia see Torres as the ideal candidate to fill the gap.

According to Spanish newspaper Superdeporte, Valencia have been in contact with Chelsea over a possible deal.

Torres signed for Chelsea for £50m in January 2011, but it is believed that Valencia will not offer more than half of that fee for the former Atletico Madrid man. It is not yet known whether Torres would be willing to head back to Spain, or whether Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich would be prepared to take a huge loss on the player.

With Chelsea set to continue their pursuit of unsettled Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney, it appears that Torres will not feature in Jose Mourinho's starting line-up.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

Valencia have money to spend now? Wouldn't have thought they could afford a player like Torres.

[Pizy 18,368]

£25m!?

Taxi for Torres!

[CHOULO19 24,332]

£25m!?

Taxi for Torres!

How did you arrive at 25m? His wages alone is 10m/year and assuming he'd want them to match his wages for at least the length of his current contract which is 3 years, that makes 30m in wages in alone for the next 3 years.

Yeah, he's not going anywhere.

[Pizy 18,368]

How did you arrive at 25m? His wages alone is 10m/year and assuming he'd want them to match his wages for at least the length of his current contract which is 3 years, that makes 30m in wages in alone for the next 3 years.

Yeah, he's not going anywhere.

Yeah, no way it's happening. Whatever team would want him would want the fee much lower than 25m since his wages are so high.

Think we're stuck with I'm for good until his contract is up, unfortunately.

[Stats 7,054]

Definitely will not happen. Their finances are already in a perilous position and they would only be able to afford Torres if he took a half wage cut which is not going to happen. They can get better strikers who are worth less in fee and wages.

[The Skipper 20,593]

He'd have to take a massive wage cut - I don't know, maybe he'd do that. He doesn't strike me as the mercenary sort of type.

If we do manage to get Rooney and offload Torres though, you'd have to commend the board for a brilliant job. We'll see though.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He'd have to take a massive wage cut - I don't know, maybe he'd do that. He doesn't strike me as the mercenary sort of type.

Even if he's not, he'd be stupid to take a wage cut. After all this is how he makes a living.

[Tomo 21,733]

Even if he's not, he'd be stupid to take a wage cut. After all this is how he makes a living.

He took a paycut to leave his boyhood club and turned down an offer for Man.City that was even higher than what were paying him now.

For all his other faults he loves his football, if he had the choice of money or a place in next summer's world cup, im pretty confident he will choose the latter, he was considering his future last summer before the club made him assurances he would be #1 forward.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He took a paycut to leave his boyhood club and turned down an offer for Man.City that was even higher than what were paying him now.

For all his other faults he loves his football, if he had the choice of money or a place in next summer's world cup, im pretty confident he will choose the latter, he was considering his future last summer before the club made him assurances he would be #1 forward.

He took a pay cut to join Liverpool to prove himself as a player. He knew that that move could make him one of the highest rated strikers in the world and it did. In fact, even though he took a pay cut, he still ended up making more money at Liverpool from ads. Hid move to Liverpool made him one of the most marketable players on the planet.

What doe he have to gain by taking a pay cut and moving away from Chelsea? The only thing that is keeping him in the Spain NT is that he plays for a club like Chelsea; and that got him chosen over people like Negredo and Soldado who where performing much better than him but at smaller teams. Moving to a smaller club would practically be admitting that he's no longer good enough to be at a club like Chelsea. He'd basically be pulling the plug on his career at the age of 29.

No matter how much he loves football, he's not going to just throw away 10-20m. This is his work and he has a family to support. Would you do it if you were in his shoes?

[Muzchap 8,966]

No matter how much he loves football, he's not going to just throw away 10-20m. This is his work and he has a family to support. Would you do it if you were in his shoes?

Heh Choulo, he earns in 1 week which most 'normal' people earn in 3-4 years!!! They also have children to support and work longer hours

I don't think Torres is on, or near, the breadline - nor will he be anytime soon

Money <> happiness - so yeah if he was suffering I think he would move, but he's not, so he won't...

Maybe come Jan, he'll re-evaluate..

[Tomo 21,733]

He took a pay cut to join Liverpool to prove himself as a player. He knew that that move could make him one of the highest rated strikers in the world and it did. In fact, even though he took a pay cut, he still ended up making more money at Liverpool from ads. Hid move to Liverpool made him one of the most marketable players on the planet.

What doe he have to gain by taking a pay cut and moving away from Chelsea? The only thing that is keeping him in the Spain NT is that he plays for a club like Chelsea; and that got him chosen over people like Negredo and Soldado who where performing much better than him but at smaller teams. Moving to a smaller club would practically be admitting that he's no longer good enough to be at a club like Chelsea. He'd basically be pulling the plug on his career at the age of 29.

No matter how much he loves football, he's not going to just throw away 10-20m. This is his work and he has a family to support. Would you do it if you were in his shoes?

If Mourinho signs Rooney and plays him, Lukaku and even Ba more often than Nando, not even playing for Chelsea will get him picked for Spain, and now with Negrado and Soldado playing for top teams in the PL (Soldado to Spurs is as good as done from what i keep hearing) and likely to be regular starters, any lack of game time will be curtains to his chances of playing in Brazil next summer.

He already has enough money to set himself up for life, would i do the same in his shoes? well, if i cared about my career probably but if i wasn't that bothered ill take the money, like i said Torres was considering his future last summer before we gave him assurances of playing time, so i guess he will be open to it, if Jose tells him his game time will be limited.

There's still a chance of him leaving, because like i said he was thinking about it last summer

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

He took a pay cut to join Liverpool to prove himself as a player. He knew that that move could make him one of the highest rated strikers in the world and it did. In fact, even though he took a pay cut, he still ended up making more money at Liverpool from ads. Hid move to Liverpool made him one of the most marketable players on the planet.

What doe he have to gain by taking a pay cut and moving away from Chelsea? The only thing that is keeping him in the Spain NT is that he plays for a club like Chelsea; and that got him chosen over people like Negredo and Soldado who where performing much better than him but at smaller teams. Moving to a smaller club would practically be admitting that he's no longer good enough to be at a club like Chelsea. He'd basically be pulling the plug on his career at the age of 29.

No matter how much he loves football, he's not going to just throw away 10-20m. This is his work and he has a family to support. Would you do it if you were in his shoes?

I'd take the paycut and move back to Spain if I was in his shoes.

He's 29 and he's on the decline...moving back to Spain where he could finish his career without so much pressure isn't a bad decision.

If he does stay at Chelsea, I hope he doesn't affect Lukaku's development into a beast forward..

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Heh Choulo, he earns in 1 week which most 'normal' people earn in 3-4 years!!! They also have children to support and work longer hours

I don't think Torres is on, or near, the breadline - nor will he be anytime soon

Money <> happiness - so yeah if he was suffering I think he would move, but he's not, so he won't...

Maybe come Jan, he'll re-evaluate..

Well that's easy to say from your perspective, but from his perspective what he makes is probably just enough. It's funny thing about us humans that nothing is ever really enough for us. Ever notice how when you get a pay raise in work, your expenses also automatically increase without you planning? That's why you don't see Billionaires throwing millions out of a window even though if they do they'd still have more money than 99% of people on earth.

If Mourinho signs Rooney and plays him, Lukaku and even Ba more often than Nando, not even playing for Chelsea will get him picked for Spain, and now with Negrado and Soldado playing for top teams in the PL (Soldado to Spurs is as good as done from what i keep hearing) and likely to be regular starters, any lack of game time will be curtains to his chances of playing in Brazil next summer.

He already has enough money to set himself up for life, would i do the same in his shoes? well, if i cared about my career probably but if i wasn't that bothered ill take the money, like i said Torres was considering his future last summer before we gave him assurances of playing time, so i guess he will be open to it, if Jose tells him his game time will be limited.

There's still a chance of him leaving, because like i said he was thinking about it last summer

If he can't make the Spanish team here or at Valencia then why would he move if he's earning more money here? You never see people who are set for life with money ever miss a chance to make more money. In fact, in my experience, poor/lower middle class people are much much more likely to put happiness, principals, moral stuff..etc ahead of monetary gain. But that's a debate for another time.

I can see Torres taking a pay cut to move to Barcelona for example, but Valencia? I find that incredibly unlikely in the current situation.