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[The only place to be 11,313]

Roman sacked RDM because, the later had no idea what to do with this squad.How can you have less possession with this squad against Liverpool, Swansea a teams average at best.It's not just the negative results but the negative play.For example the first game in this season (the Wigan game), I was clearly dissapointed even tho we won because we played like championship side and you can bet Roman was 3x more pissed off.

I actually didn't have a problem with the Wigan game. We won the game in the first 5 minutes and then sat back. Then in the next game we played well for about 25 minutes. Then in the next game it was a bit more and so on.

We got to Spurs where we played really well for about 60 minutes, but since then we've really stuttered. The gradual improvement turned into a rather sharp decline and Robbie didn't look like he had any plan to change in around. Now we can point to injuries or even outside distractions, but he always knew that he simply had to given Roman a chance to sack him and he would.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

Those who are calling RDM a clueless are the real clueless people. The anti-RDM comments are atrocious.

[didierforever 7,349]

Putting Bertrand into the final? I remember how after the game, simply because we won, he was praised because of it. Reality is, he played terribly and almost cost us the game due to his poor play.

:fainthv9: i dont and simply cant care what u think after this comment. the guy was given an ovation after he was subbed if i am correct and the same thing followed even during the victory parade.

[didierforever 7,349]

Really! You thought we were playing well?

And we conceded because of JTs absence?

When the rot starts, best cut it out, before it takes the whole ship down.

The guy had no Plan B, couldn't rotate to save his life...

Go see how that worked out at WBA...

Fact is RDM was a gamble, as soon as the odds looked shit RA cashed out...

Don't forget the humiliation of us likely going out in a group we should have qualified from in CL...

I'm just reporting what RA saw and didn't like...

Don't shoot the messenger

do u really think we deserved to lose to liverpool, it should have been 3-0 at the nd of the first half itself. the united match was another one and then even the wba match we deserved atleast a draw, so i do feel we were playing good but just not taking our chances, even in the juve match if hazard and mata had scored we would not be having this discussion.

as for rotation do u actually think we got a squad for it. for the pivot we got 4 guys out of which lamps is injured and romeu is not some1 who can start alongside mikel as they are of the same mold, that leaves him with one option of changing mikel/romeu with rambo but that would mean making rambo play every match which is not possible due to his style of play.

upfront we got the blonde bitch as sturridge, and danny has been injured (i dont believe it but that is what every1 is saying) for the most part. for the 3 we got mazacar, and any coach in the world would be reluctant to change this. even then moses has got his share of chances, so as i see it, you are just upset with the exclusion of marin from the first team.

as for defense, i totally feel JT's absence is the because (or LUIZ's inclusion). how can it be?

as for the humiliation of going out in the group stage, we are still not out. juve need the same result that we needed in turin when they go to shakhtar.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Roman's policy of hiring and firing has made us the most successful club in English football over the last decade, having won one more major honour than Manchester United have in that space of time.

We may be unhappy with di Matteo's dismissal, but if Rafa brings us the CWC, the League Cup and a top-three finish, we can consider this a decent season.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Roman's policy of hiring and firing has made us the most successful club in English football over the last decade, having won one more major honour than Manchester United have in that space of time.

We may be unhappy with di Matteo's dismissal, but if Rafa brings us the CWC, the League Cup and a top-three finish, we can consider this a decent season.

Agree with the second part, not with the first. You are taking so much variables out of the equation. It's not a simple cause-effect relation between the managers and winning trophies. I'd attribute the success more to the fact that we spent more than anybody else rather than we sacked managers more than anybody else.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

Exactly CHOULO19 , I thank Roman for the money he has spent on players, but not on sacking managers especially, Mourinho, Carlo, RDM.

[ChelseaChelsea 37]

We may be unhappy with di Matteo's dismissal, but if Rafa brings us the CWC, the League Cup and a top-three finish, we can consider this a decent season.

CWC, and the League Cup can not be Rafa's alone. RDM has his contribution. And We could have done better with RDM had there been a good striker.

[diskoviolente 425]

The lack of a strategy is shocking though despite of what happened to RDM.

I am not buying into this whole saga with Pep coming in the summer. Why would he come and be even more stressed out as he was with Barca because of our trigger happy owner who never ever would bite a nescessary bullet in order to get something like a long term plan going. I thought we have had that with Ancelotti after Mourinho. I am not convinced that "long term managers aren´t for us". I really don´t. Why do people think we have so many big egos in the dressing room who can make a decision on a managers fate ? Because they had to carry the team, they had to in order to achieve anything and consequently could have but would never work for someone who they don´t like. I don´t think that this is a good vibe to have around a club. Long term stability is something that we have to get at some point, because it will cost Chelsea in the end.

[Badboy 1,526]

I have developed a hatred for football I've hardly watched a game this season and YES THIS IS BADBOY. I don't even get sad anymore when teams score against us, I hate football and it's over commericalization. Football can go to hell the same way boxing did when people like Don King raped it commercially until it took 6 months to promote a boxing match. Football was amazing before the avalanche of money came in and that is the honest truth !

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Roman's policy of hiring and firing has made us the most successful club in English football over the last decade, having won one more major honour than Manchester United have in that space of time.

We may be unhappy with di Matteo's dismissal, but if Rafa brings us the CWC, the League Cup and a top-three finish, we can consider this a decent season.

Roman's spending is what won us trophies. We've spent way way way more money than all but Man City in the last decade. We've won 10 tournaments in the last 10 years (not including Community Shields). We spent 52.7 million pounds per trophy. ManU spent 14,22M pounds per trophy. (That's not including what we've spent on managers) They've been much more successful based on how much money they've spent. We've actually been much less successful than we should have been based on all the money we've poured in. If you keep spending crazy amounts of money, you're going to win trophies, but the lack of managerial stability and the idiocy of the board has definitely hurt.

Also, who's to say RDM wouldn't have won the CWC, the League Cup and finished top-3? We've played 12 games in the league and have already played some really tough games (Arsenal and Spurs away, ManU, Newcastle, etc...) Just because we're on a bad streak, doesn't mean that streak was going to continue forever.

[Liquidator 5,176]

If you want Robbie to stay and we play shit almost every game and at the end win 0 trophies, while we can sack him and with Benitez win trophies, then you are not Chelsea fan but Robbie fan and can fuck off.

You seem to think that we played shit because of Di Matteo. Are you genuinely stupid enough to think this? We were winless in 3 games. We had won 2 of our last 8 games. It is known as a blip and we seem to have one every year during Autumn/Winter. Why would we end up with zero trophies because we had been on a blip? We were still 3rd in the Premier League, in the Quarter Finals of the Capital One Cup and if our players had not thrown away a 2 goal lead against Juventus we would be in a good position to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League.

You are in absolutely no position to criticise other people as fans. As zolayes has said, you posts make it so obvious that you are a gloryhunter, I will give RDM more support than other managers that we have sacked because of the poor treatment the board gave him when they sacked a Chelsea legend. You probably wouldn't care for him as a player because you probably didn't give 2 fucks when we were a midtable team.

[The only place to be 11,313]

but the lack of managerial stability and the idiocy of the board has definitely hurt.

Again, you're criticising the board without taking a broad overview of what they've done to establish the academy and also attract outside investment.

Managerial stability is great but it has to be with the right guy and we've not had that since Jose. United have had that, but the game has changed and Fergie's successor won't get that. They also won't get one of the greatest crop of youngsters ever to come up at one time (Giggs, Beckham, Nevilles, Scholes, Butt).

[The only place to be 11,313]

Long term stability is something that we have to get at some point, because it will cost Chelsea in the end.

I agree with this, but it HAS to be with the right man.

That's why we went for AVB. He didn't pan out so the next target was Pep, but he wasn't available so we have stop-gaps. And Roman obviously thinks Benitez is a better stop-gap that Robbie.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Chants for RDM...

"Legend as player,

Coached as a hero,

Shirt number 16,

Champions league hero"

:cfc: :cfc: :cfc:

KTBFFH

[Fulham Broadway 17,319]

Again, you're criticising the board without taking a broad overview of what they've done to establish the academy and also attract outside investment.

Managerial stability is great but it has to be with the right guy and we've not had that since Jose. United have had that, but the game has changed and Fergie's successor won't get that. They also won't get one of the greatest crop of youngsters ever to come up at one time (Giggs, Beckham, Nevilles, Scholes, Butt).

I might be wrong but didnt you say in one of your posts youve been going for years ? I dont think theres one fan I know goes to regular games that isnt fucked off with Gourlay, Buck etc.

The academy is window dressing, almost without exception the first team are bought off the (Waitrose)shelf. As for outside investment anyone working in a telesales call centre could sell advertisng space to a World club that has blanket TV coverage. I dont think it takes a genius.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Again, you're criticising the board without taking a broad overview of what they've done to establish the academy and also attract outside investment.

Managerial stability is great but it has to be with the right guy and we've not had that since Jose. United have had that, but the game has changed and Fergie's successor won't get that. They also won't get one of the greatest crop of youngsters ever to come up at one time (Giggs, Beckham, Nevilles, Scholes, Butt).

What academy? It's a fantasy in fan's minds to think that Chelsea are going to be bringing players along slowly and nurturing them. Chelsea are a club that are going to go out and buy their talent. It's fun to think "hey, this player is going to be great and this one will slot in perfectly there" but the truth is that we haven't produced an excellent academy player since the 1990s. Not one since Roman took over. Odds are that either zero or maybe one player currently in the academy will every play a significant role for Chelsea. Even if they did have the potential, Roman doesn't have the patience to see players develop because young players make mistakes and you have to live with that. Chelsea's strategy is to buy the top young talent off of other teams, not to develop our own.

That group that ManU had was fantastic, but it hasn't been the core of United for a long time and guess what, they're still doing well.They won on Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo, and Rooney and Vidic and now Van Persie. (In fact, the last time one of those players you mentioned won ManU player of the year was 1997-1998. Scholes and Giggs have still been very good for much of the time since, but it's hardly like they were carrying the team on their backs). They just have a much better model than us.

[diskoviolente 425]

I have developed a hatred for football I've hardly watched a game this season and YES THIS IS BADBOY. I don't even get sad anymore when teams score against us, I hate football and it's over commericalization. Football can go to hell the same way boxing did when people like Don King raped it commercially until it took 6 months to promote a boxing match. Football was amazing before the avalanche of money came in and that is the honest truth !

i know what you mean. i find it harder every season to get into it or watch an international tournament. this season i thought it would be different but right now i just despise everything about it again (for me, it´s just phases). It is even harder as a Chelsea supporter because of all that redicolous stuff that happens around the club.

[nullabletype 987]

Exactly CHOULO19 , I thank Roman for the money he has spent on players, but not on sacking managers especially, Mourinho, Carlo, RDM.

This post tells me all I need to know about the opinions of some fans in regard to RDMs dismissal. I loved RDM, he was a classy bloke and Chelsea legend, but with all the respect in the world to him, he shouldn't be grouped in with the likes of Mourinho and Ancelotti.

The outrage invoked is nothing but a purely emotional reaction. There is no doubt in my mind that the squad had more to do with our Champions League win than Di Matteo. That's not to say that he added he nothing, I'm sure he did, but it was just the right time for him and the club. Roman couldn't have not give him a punt at the job, but I don't think he, like many, believed Robbie was up to it.

Let's be honest, you don't do a stint at MK Dons, get sacked from West Brom, and then waltz in to CFC and win the Champions League and an FA Cup entirely on your own merit and pedigree. It's far too fortunate. Some great performances and a lot of luck was involved.

This is not a dig at the man, but you could bet your house that RDM will not be taking charge of a huge team any time soon, let alone winning big trophies. He's just not the manager people want to believe he was.

Edit:

CWC, and the League Cup can not be Rafa's alone. RDM has his contribution. And We could have done better with RDM had there been a good striker.

This just adds to it.

I don't see anybody coming out AVBs arse for his contribution to our FA Cup and Champions League win.

[The only place to be 11,313]

What academy? It's a fantasy in fan's minds to think that Chelsea are going to be bringing players along slowly and nurturing them. Chelsea are a club that are going to go out and buy their talent. It's fun to think "hey, this player is going to be great and this one will slot in perfectly there" but the truth is that we haven't produced an excellent academy player since the 1990s. Not one since Roman took over. Odds are that either zero or maybe one player currently in the academy will every play a significant role for Chelsea. Even if they did have the potential, Roman doesn't have the patience to see players develop because young players make mistakes and you have to live with that. Chelsea's strategy is to buy the top young talent off of other teams, not to develop our own.

That group that ManU had was fantastic, but it hasn't been the core of United for a long time and guess what, they're still doing well.They won on Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo, and Rooney and Vidic and now Van Persie. (In fact, the last time one of those players you mentioned won ManU player of the year was 1997-1998. Scholes and Giggs have still been very good for much of the time since, but it's hardly like they were carrying the team on their backs). They just have a much better model than us.

I completely disagree with your assessment of our academy. There are players will real potential like McEachran, Chalobah and Feruz who I think will establish themselves in our first team. Then there are players like Piazon, Ake, Swift and Kane who could go either way and either become first-teamers, squad players or sold on for a decent price.

Then there are the youngsters we've bought in like Courtois who is already one of the most exciting young prospects in his position. It's virtually unheard of for a team to go from one world-class keeper to another. Look at United after Schmeichel. They were flawed in that position until the got Van Der Sar, and now he's gone they're struggling.

There's also the De Bruynes, Wallaces and Lukakus that we've taken punts on.

Compared to watching the likes of Mark Nicholls and Paul Hughes, this academy is virtually sparkling.