The Benitez Thread

[killer1257 3,282]

Give Benitez time,but the problem is that he won´t bench Torres and that is our problem.We always play with ten men and this makes me really sad,because last season we had Drogba,who scored some fantastic goals.We have to give Benitez time to be succesful.The funny thing is no one is capable of making Torres better.The manager,who realizes that,will be succesful at our club,because then we will finally start playing with 11 men.He only has to sell him.

[The only place to be 11,313]

against swansea and west brom we dint get outplayed for 45 mins. we lost against wba because of one man's brilliant display - SHANE LONG. today whu made us their bitches in the 2nd half and we had no answers. thats the main problem..

Against West Brom we lost because Clarkey is a great manager and the strikers missed sitters.

Against Swansea we dropped points because the defensive midfield (Ramires in this case) fucked up.

We need a presence in midfield (instead of Mikel) who works hard for 90 minutes, communicates well and organises the team and gets stuck in. It's probably the most important position in our team because they're the link between defence and attack.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Exactly...And a board who understand football more than the average supporter. Know about how to build a squad rather that just going "oh my god, did you see his youtube skillz video, let's go and buy him!!"

And then send them on loan never to be seen again...

And the ole 'omg he will sell lots of shirts'!He's shite at the moment but who cares biggggggg name!Then lets make the manager play him because he's a big name and cost lots of money.Doesnt matter he's shite! Must play!

[Henrique 9,133]

The mods should merge this into Benitez topic and do the same with any kind of topic that pretend to discuss the same subject, otherwise this forum will become a circus.

The mods are way too lenient in recent days, since we are now full of reduntant topics. Tomorrow will be this "should Terry replace Benitez?".

[zolayes 14,489]

well done swansea ...at least gooners to lose at home

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

When people say 'board out', who specifically do they want out?

To me, these problems started 5 years ago when we didn't focus on producing our own youngsters or bringing in youngsters from other teams but tried to win with established players like Ballack and Shevchenko. Are the current board (who have focused on young talent and the academy) to blame for that?

We won under Mourinho/Ancelotti/RDM without basically any help from the academy. The problem is that our transfers have been awful and our policy for them have been terrible. We have chased players that don't fit into the system bjust because they are big names or are exciting or whatever. We are spending massive amounts of money to buy players that are highly skilled with no idea how to fit them into the squad. We've spent 80M pounds in the last 2 seasons on 3 offensively-minded #10 players. Why do we need three different players who play the same position? And then leaving the centre of the midfield and our depth at striker completely bare. How can you go into the season with 1 striker even if he were in great form (which he certainly never was). We have a board and owner that's so obsessed with buying skilled offensive players , that that's basically the only thing we ever look for-even in defenders. We don't have a team, we have a collection of players.

[didierforever 7,349]

Against West Brom we lost because Clarkey is a great manager and the strikers missed sitters.

Against Swansea we dropped points because the defensive midfield (Ramires in this case) fucked up.

We need a presence in midfield (instead of Mikel) who works hard for 90 minutes, communicates well and organises the team and gets stuck in. It's probably the most important position in our team because they're the link between defence and attack.

our midfield is good enough dude. if our striker can make use of his chances our midfielders wont be overrun so often. they wont come under so much pressure. i remember in the first 10 mins when rambo almost went thru. he was our first man for fucksake. we expect rambo n mikel to be an awesome shield to the defense, provide those incisive passes to the striker, and also take th onus of scoring or try to do so when our 3 cams are getting bullied. they are dms for a reason. and busquet is a perfect example. he has a role and follows it. the only problem with this team is the striker to take the pressure off other guys.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

what is the fucking point of sacking RDM if we are not looking for wins? isn't that what RB was hired to do? win games, get top 4 and get torres scoring.

torres aint scoring, and we are losing matches

That was the problem with Liverpool under Rafa to many draws and losses.Could beat the big times but when it came everyone else they were pretty crap..Torres scoring at the moment needs a miracle espically keeping him scoring.

[Aussiedan 154]

Today was a shit result.

So was Swansea away.

So was West Brom away.

This problem didn't start with Rafa Benitez, but I don't know if he's capable of solving it.

Mate, we had a dip in form, every club goes through it through a season.

We were flying at the start of the season.

Now everything is fucked up.

[Henrique 9,133]

We won under Mourinho/Ancelotti/RDM without basically any help from the academy. The problem is that our transfers have been awful and our policy for them have been terrible. We have chased players that don't fit into the system bjust because they are big names or are exciting or whatever. We are spending massive amounts of money to buy players that are highly skilled with no idea how to fit them into the squad. We've spent 80M pounds in the last 2 seasons on 3 offensively-minded #10 players. Why do we need three different players who play the same position? And then leaving the centre of the midfield and our depth at striker completely bare. How can you go into the season with 1 striker even if he were in great form (which he certainly never was). We have a board and owner that's so obsessed with buying skilled offensive players , that that's basically the only thing we ever look for-even in defenders. We don't have a team, we have a collection of players.

Good points, thats why I dont really see the reason for this topic, since everything we are discussing here, are being discussed in similar topics. where are the mods?

[The only place to be 11,313]

We won under Mourinho/Ancelotti/RDM without basically any help from the academy. The problem is that our transfers have been awful and our policy for them have been terrible. We have chased players that don't fit into the system bjust because they are big names or are exciting or whatever. We are spending massive amounts of money to buy players that are highly skilled with no idea how to fit them into the squad. We've spent 80M pounds in the last 2 seasons on 3 offensively-minded #10 players. Why do we need three different players who play the same position? And then leaving the centre of the midfield and our depth at striker completely bare. How can you go into the season with 1 striker even if he were in great form (which he certainly never was). We have a board and owner that's so obsessed with buying skilled offensive players , that that's basically the only thing we ever look for-even in defenders. We don't have a team, we have a collection of players.

I did ask who specifically people wanted out.

But to the rest of your points, yes we won without the academy a few years ago. But we can't spend like that nowadays - the rules won't allow it and it would ruin Roman. We need to become somewhat self-sufficient for the good of the club and the team.

The striker situation is appalling, but they felt they had to see if their £50 million investment could pay off. They had to give him every chance (in their view) because to write £50 million off without exhausting every possibility just isn't good business. I don't necessarily agree with the number of chances he's been given and I think it's now conclusive.

The signings of Mata, Hazard and Oscar aren't as nonsensical as you're making out. Did we go overboard with signing 'creative' players? Maybe. But it's been an area we (the supporters) have been moaning about for years.

My view is that the problems we have now are the result of short-sighted thinking almost a decade ago. Now we're actually trying to run the club as a football club but the gap between the old players going and the new ones coming through is taking too long and we're seeing the results of it on the pitch.

Your assessment of our defensive signings makes a little sense when you talk about Luiz (who needs selling) but Cahill and Azpilicueta have been good, cheap signings. The young players we've bought in and loaned out seem to all be heading in the right direction.

So that's why I asked the question about WHO people want sacking because I'm not sure how much they are to blame for what is happening right now.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Mate, we had a dip in form, every club goes through it through a season.

We were flying at the start of the season.

Now everything is fucked up.

You say 'dip in form', I say it's the result of issues that have existed at the club for a while now.

[Ollie 4,400]

Stamford the lion out, it's all his fault!

[The only place to be 11,313]

well done swansea ...at least gooners to lose at home

West Brom lost, Arsenal lost and Everton drew. We got fucking lucky today with other results.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Another thread, fucking get a grip.