The Benitez Thread

[strong centreback 157]

Sorry Mate but I really am not going to waste my energy on the drivel you spieling above, you need to go and do your research properly on the man, you do need understand football, mourinho,guardiola,van gaal,capello,ferguson , have been at the richest and biggest clubs on this planet, and therefore, Money= better players=trophies=success. and rafa has quite a few without not being employed with the financial powerhouses of the game !

but just to pick up on 1 candidate ( Hiddink.) he has won nothing at club level outside Holland prior to Chelsea, but it does not mean he is not a good coach he is.

the coach you have right now is in that elite company that you have listed above, and by the way , do you know the formation 4-2-3-1 , that 70% of teams use nowadays, ? well your interim was the first to use it and develop it at Valencia and introduce it to the EPL ! go and ask anybody in the game or do your research !

You cannot be helped ,my friend, you are to ingrained with media talk, and your own agenda.

Rafa the defensive coach ? it took him 4 league games to equal the biggest win in your history, against an inform team in Villa ? the last time you did that was against Wigan in party atmosphere after clinching the league title under ancelloti COMPETING against UTD without ronaldo, who by the way won the title with 4 more defeats and less points than when benitez finished runner up the season before against the best man utd team in fergusons reign in ronaldo's last and best season !

Your agenda and nonsense is just to much mate, look at the result yesterday, your oponents, and when was the last time you won there, and how many times you have won there in the last 10 yearsm and then compare it to yesterday with a goal down within 60 seconds ! you will get your answer

Lets just agree to disagree, you have your take on tubby I have mine, i wont change your opinion of him and you wont change mine.

[bushman 2,043]

Rafa = unloved, abused, ridiculed but somehow he made Chelsea a winning team again.

Currently, Chelsea are winning games.

What do you give to a manager who has suddenly conjured wins from a team that was going nowhere ?

A center-forward, a midfielder...?

The team has courage under fire, tenacity & desire to win games again.

Chelsea look like a team that started to believe in itself again.

Personally, I am satisfied with Rafa´s job, so far.

[Rupert 130]

Bollocks, he has been in the wilderness since inter sacked him and no club would touch him with a barge pole, he needed this job more than we needed him, I believe the sole reason that roman chopped RDM to bring tubby in is in a vain last effort to get that nancy torres firing and to look like at least worth half what we paid him, TFSW has been drip feeding to the press since he was sacked about how he can get torres scoring romans bought into that hence why he is here, if torres wasnt here nor would he its as simple as that, and he would still be twiddling his thumbs waiting for the right opportunity to come along facht.

You are ignorant. In the first place he was not sacked by Inter. He won the World Cup with them and immediately called a press conference in which he announced that if Inter would not fulfill the promise they had made to him when he took the job to let him buy players then they should negotiate his release. That was done. Since then he has had many offers (including Chelsea last year - and he refused their terms). Second, show me one of the quotes you say he was feeding to the press about reviving Torres. He has never said that. You just make it up as you go along. Your ignorance is no excuse for your prejudice.

[Joker10 946]

You are ignorant. In the first place he was not sacked by Inter. He won the World Cup with them and immediately called a press conference in which he announced that if Inter would not fulfill the promise they had made to him when he took the job to let him buy players then they should negotiate his release. That was done. Since then he has had many offers (including Chelsea last year - and he refused their terms). Second, show me one of the quotes you say he was feeding to the press about reviving Torres. He has never said that. You just make it up as you go along. Your ignorance is no excuse for your prejudice.

Can you prove that with either an article or quotes?

[Rupert 130]

Can you prove that with either an article or quotes?

Yes I could but why don't you just Google it?. It is all over the internet. Anyone who is slightly knowledgeable about Rafa or Inter at the time knows the three options Rafa laid out to Inter in that press conference. I don't expect Chelsea supporters to know about it but I also don't expect them to make up rubbish either to justify their prejudice. As I said earlier a lot of the misinformation about Rafa comes from Mourinho and its a shame that some thick-headed supporters still dance to Mourinho's tune.

[zolayes 14,489]

Yes I could but why don't you just Google it?. It is all over the internet. Anyone who is slightly knowledgeable about Rafa or Inter at the time knows the three options Rafa laid out to Inter in that press conference. I don't expect Chelsea supporters to know about it but I also don't expect them to make up rubbish either to justify their prejudice. As I said earlier a lot of the misinformation about Rafa comes from Mourinho and its a shame that some thick-headed supporters still dance to Mourinho's tune.

Just which club do you support Rupert?

[Joe Cool 388]

I still am not sure why people are so close-minded in terms of Rafa coming. Yeah, he said a few things about our club when he was managing a rival club, so what? He had a rough start with the first few games and the CWC fiasco (which is to be expected, considering the form we were in to begin with and the lack of time he had), but as you can see, we are starting to play much better than we have been with some great results in the past couple weeks. It's ridiculous how in spite of this, people still hold a grudge against him.

[rafafan 10]

haters will hate , supporters will keep supporting, and doubters will slowly be convinced.

My prediction Chelsea 6- 0 QPR !

[Tomo 21,751]

@rafafan, What reception is he likely to get on April 20th at Anfield? I assume a roaring one?

If he does what Houllier did and touches the 'this is Anfield badge' then his relationship with Chelsea fans will be broken beyond repair.

[Laylabelle 9,539]

@rafafan, What reception is he likely to get on April 20th at Anfield? I assume a roaring one?

If he does what Houllier did and touches the 'this is Anfield badge' then his relationship with Chelsea fans will be broken beyond repair.

I guess he'll only have a few months anyway after that...unless there is finals.Surley he wouldnt he's been there done that years ago in the past etc...

[bushman 2,043]

haters will hate , supporters will keep supporting, and doubters will slowly be convinced.

My prediction Chelsea 6- 0 QPR !

Whom do you call when you want Chelsea to win ?

I´d say, Rafa is my number.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I like to see the posts talking about the possibility that Rafa might be hired long-term. However, they overlook one thing. It will be for Rafa and Abromovich to decide - not just Abromavich. Rafa turned down Chelsea's offer of a temporary contract when AVB was sacked. This time he accepted an 18 month contract with an opt-out for both parties after the end of this season. Rafa wanted that. He has other irons in the fire. He has been approached by Real Madrid several times in the past and this year that interest has been revived. He has bee approached by two other Spanish clubs, a leading German club, a leading Italian club, two national teams and some far eastern clubs. There is also the outside chance that Man City, Arsenal and LFC will be vacant come the summer. He has consistently said he prefers to work in the PL because he likes the football culture and because he wants to give his two daughters and his wife stability. (His wife's charity was voted charity of the year on the Wirral last week). The Chelsea job gives him a platform to demonstrate his qualities and win trophies. If it ends in the summer nobody will be able to say he was sacked because officially it is an interim appointment. If Ab does offer an extended contract Rafa will be in a position to bargain the terms. In the meantime he is free to negotiate a contract with other clubs without being accused of disloyalty. Not a bad position for him.

I've read most of your posts, and you are looking more of a benitez fan than a club fan, we can all support him, but you shouldnt be so concerned for him like you are related or obsessed....

[strong centreback 157]

I've read most of your posts, and you are looking more of a benitez fan than a club fan, we can all support him, but you shouldnt be so concerned for him like you are related or obsessed....

hes blatantly a liverpool fan

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I have no problem with fans of other teams being on our board as long as they are respectful and know their place. I'm getting a little fed up with seeing Liverpool fans blabbing on about Rafa. He's our manager now and we can like him or dislike him on our own.

[strong centreback 157]

You are ignorant. In the first place he was not sacked by Inter. He won the World Cup with them and immediately called a press conference in which he announced that if Inter would not fulfill the promise they had made to him when he took the job to let him buy players then they should negotiate his release. That was done. Since then he has had many offers (including Chelsea last year - and he refused their terms). Second, show me one of the quotes you say he was feeding to the press about reviving Torres. He has never said that. You just make it up as you go along. Your ignorance is no excuse for your prejudice.

Looks like he was sacked to me, if these arnt enough im sure I could pull up another 5 10 15 reports who all agree with me

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/21/rafael-benitez-internazionale-massimo-moratti

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9302348.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1340638/Rafa-Benitez-sacked-Inter-Milan-Italians-turn-Leonardo.html

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/856462?cc=5739

Cant find an article that has a qoute from the bloke him self but the amount of people who were using get torres scoring as a reason for him to get the job epecially from that mug ballegue is enough to make me think his agent may have put the word out amongst the press, might be wrong to accuse him directly of saying that but wouldnt suprise me to find out his agent had a word with the press about it.

Anyway I'm bored of talking about tubby with liverpool supporters you'd stick up for him if he took a shit on the queens doorstep he is so idolised round your parts.

[rafafan 10]

@rafafan, What reception is he likely to get on April 20th at Anfield? I assume a roaring one?

If he does what Houllier did and touches the 'this is Anfield badge' then his relationship with Chelsea fans will be broken beyond repair.

Mate the reception he will get will be of the same level you will give to RDM when and if he came back to the Bridge, it will be Gigantic, he has a lot of well wishers that feel bitter and angry at the club about him leaving. I cant speak for every LFC fan but if we are not challenging for Top 4 and you guys are competing for the title, then possibly some fans discretely will hope for a Liverpool defeat for RAFA not Chelsea to win the league if that makes sense.

Regarding him touching the Anfield sign, well I would not advise him to do it, but it could quite possibly be that most of the CFC fans have accepted him by then and will maybe overlook it if he does, again it depends on how successfull the team is, its all about results right now he is on a 70% win percentage, and its quiten down some of the disenters so in 4 months time he could be seen in a different light, fans are fickle mate we all want a winning team, good football, and be seen competing for trophies.

By April, you guys could be league cup champions, semi of the FA cup and Europa League, and challenging still for the Premier League, How will you view him then !

[Fulham Broadway 17,350]

He's priviliged to be a temporary custodian of such a great club after being tarnished at scouseland.

Its good experience for him at training, meeting the players, and to stand in the hallowed Stamford Bridge technical area is an honour for the fat cunt.

[rafafan 10]

Looks like he was sacked to me, if these arnt enough im sure I could pull up another 5 10 15 reports who all agree with me

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/21/rafael-benitez-internazionale-massimo-moratti

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9302348.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1340638/Rafa-Benitez-sacked-Inter-Milan-Italians-turn-Leonardo.html

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/856462?cc=5739

Cant find an article that has a qoute from the bloke him self but the amount of people who were using get torres scoring as a reason for him to get the job epecially from that mug ballegue is enough to make me think his agent may have put the word out amongst the press, might be wrong to accuse him directly of saying that but wouldnt suprise me to find out his agent had a word with the press about it.

Anyway I'm bored of talking about tubby with liverpool supporters you'd stick up for him if he took a shit on the queens doorstep he is so idolised round your parts.

Of course he was sacked, contract termination is a sacking, mutual consent is a sacking, Rafa gave Morrati 3 options , challenged him ! sack me, or buy me players, but accept you lied to me when you gave me the job ! journalists will not use contract termination or mutual consent, they will say sack because its sensational writing, and also depending on the jouno's realtionship and perspective of the victim, they will write and twist in the light they want their reader to view it , its how you sell the story. Do you read negative things about ferguson ? who never does after match press conferences for 10 years ? and bans journalist that write anything shit about him regardless of the truth ! do you see anything bad written about Harry "media darling" Redknapp or Roy hodgson , who are shite managers and have nothing of note in 35 years of management ! Do you see anything written about Brendan Rodgers who has won 6 games out of 19 matches and we are 9th ? What did you feel about the Media treatment of AVB last year ?? The Media will slant and write according to there "agenda" thats how the game works mate . They dont like Rafa . and he dont give a shit about them,

[rafafan 10]

He's priviliged to be a temporary custodian of such a great club after being tarnished at scouseland.

Its good experience for him at training, meeting the players, and to stand in the hallowed Stamford Bridge technical area is an honour for the fat cunt.

Mate I rather not go into a debate about which club is greater etc, but not sure where the tarnish in scouseland comes from ??? its senseless spiel once again,

[rafafan 10]

Whom do you call when you want Chelsea to win ?

I´d say, Rafa is my number.

, Roman did that and created a Chelsea war .