nhaiduy 1 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 lol didnt see the photo the first time. Honestly though it can go either way if bendtner plays (I highly doubt it though). Shiet @ Arsenal where he gets quite a lot of service, but pretty good @ national team =.= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Bendtner is mediocre no matter how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So would people be confident in throwing Oscar into such a big game? Do you really rate him as a better CM than Ramires right now? (not talking about potential) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So would people be confident in throwing Oscar into such a big game? Do you really rate him as a better CM than Ramires right now? (not talking about potential)His performances for Brazil speak for themself. He is class. I don't know why you are bringing up Ramires. Oscar is not in direct competition with Ramires. They should play in the same midfield (in a 4-3-3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 How is his defensive work? I don't really know much about the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 How is his defensive work? I don't really know much about the kid.None!HahahahaSimply because brazilians dont defend, only the defenders defend Dont worry though, he will learn, he hasnt looked bad the few times he tried to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Again I'll say, attackers don't need to defend. If they do its a Bonus. Its not a pre-requisite. A midfield of Ramires-Mikel-Oscar could be as good as Juventus's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhaiduy 1 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 besides the Juve game His performances for Brazil speak for themself. He is class. I don't know why you are bringing up Ramires. Oscar is not in direct competition with Ramires. They should play in the same midfield (in a 4-3-3).beside the Juve game then I completely agree. He's good at the national team, but not yet reach that level to be able to decide the big games. The teams Brazil played against in the Olympics were average or poor, just look at the final. At least that's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Again I'll say, attackers don't need to defend. If they do its a Bonus. Its not a pre-requisite. A midfield of Ramires-Mikel-Oscar could be as good as Juventus's.Football is a team sport, EVERYONE has to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Oscar should start the game as far as I'm concerned. Its not like we have a lot of possession orientated CM's. However RDM will use 4-2-3-1 and Mikel and Lampard for probably 40 games straight and burn them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Football is a team sport, EVERYONE has to defend.Attackers do minimal defending. This is true for most top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Again I'll say, attackers don't need to defend. If they do its a Bonus. Its not a pre-requisite. A midfield of Ramires-Mikel-Oscar could be as good as Juventus's.If you are playing as a CM you have to defend, to some degree you must. I don't think that Midfield is as good as ours either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLenny 4 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 A midfield of Ramires-Mikel-Oscar could be as good as Juventus's.I can't agree on this point.Ramires-Mikel-Oscar would be a good midfield, and that's the midfield I would like to see wednesday.But Juve's midfield isn't just a good midfield, it's a great midfield. Right now it's second only to Barca's, IMO.Midfield (and maybe GK? difficult to say) is the only area where Juve is better than us. In order to win we need a midfield who limit theirs and the rest of the team who exploits their issues (especially Mata and Hazard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Attackers do minimal defending. This is true for most top teams.Full team pressing isn't just built on the defenders' work. As I said, everyone has to to his duties. If Hazard, Mata and Torres were doing their defensive job like they should do (100% effort, pressing, tracking back, positioning more wisely!) then we'd have one problem less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't think that Midfield is as good as ours either.I don't think your team is as good as ours in General...Full team pressing isn't just built on the defenders' work. As I said, everyone has to to his duties. If Hazard, Mata and Torres were doing their defensive job like they should do (100% effort, pressing, tracking back, positioning more wisely!) then we'd have one problem less.Pressing, I think is something Hazard, Mata and Oscar can do but constantly tracking back is not what they should be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I don't think your team is as good as ours in General...What did that have to do with anything? I would say our midfield is as good as yours, your attack is better. Defence is about even and keepers I would say Buffon edges it. You probably have a bit more quality on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What did that have to do with anything? I would say our midfield is as good as yours, your attack is better. Defence is about even and keepers I would say Buffon edges it. You probably have a bit more quality on the bench.I would say our Defence when at its best is better, the midfield I suggested not far behind yours, attack lightyears better, your goal keeper a bit better and we have a lot better depth just about everywhere except midfield until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Defence is debatable I think. Light years is a bit of a stretch I think, it is better though. Our depth is quite good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Our depth is quite good though.I guess but we have very good depth in defence and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I guess but we have very good depth in defence and attack.Yeah you do for the most part, not in the CF spot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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