The Rising Sun 711 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 good squad player , has his strengths but doesnt really have the intelligence required to manage his strengths.He has the shot, the speed, ability to dribble and turn.but cant use them all at the same time for some odd reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Cahill, Terry, Cole, Bertrand, Lampard and Moses being the 6 HG players, if the club sells Moses, they'd have to leave 3 spaces in the squad for the up-coming season. So only 22 eligible players can be selected. Not a good decision to sell Moses at allHas Hutchinson been loaned out again? He potentially makes it 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 as well as josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Has Hutchinson been loaned out again? He potentially makes it 7.waste of a squad space either way. Would much rather have playable HG players rather than fill it up with Hutchinson, Blackman, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 waste of a squad space either way. Would much rather have playable HG players rather than fill it up with Hutchinson, Blackman, etcAs would I, but the option is there I suppose.as well as joshHe's U21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 This guy is homegrown, we can't let him go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Its a Disgrace that sme pple want moses sold even though he gave a return of about wat....10 goals last season as a squad player who is a winger and just 22 years of age. Sme pple just don't know football thank God mourinho does anyway. mediator and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Not sure how much i agree here. There was talk of van Ginkel and Schurrle deals long before they were completed (BBC and Guardian reported)- Post not about Moses but your general dis-trust of the mediaThere were also talks at one point that both deals are off as well as talks about us signing Falcao, Cavani, Lewandowiski, De Rossi, Alonso, Coentrao (or was it Marcelo? Or both?!) Ramos, Ronaldo ( )..and a hundred other players. Over 90% of media rumors are completely baseless making the actually true ones completely negligible. I can right now make you a hundred transfer predictions based on absolutely no information I have and I bet you that at least 10-20 of them comes true. Does that make me a journalist? didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Its a Disgrace that sme pple want moses sold even though he gave a return of about wat....10 goals last season as a squad player who is a winger and just 22 years of age. Sme pple just don't know football thank God mourinho does anyway.ask yourself is he really Chelsea quality? the answer is plain and simple no, about the age, well Oscar shuerrle kdb are the same age yet their game is beyond that of moses. the only reason he is here is because of the homegrown quota, which is simply sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ask yourself is he really Chelsea quality? the answer is plain and simple no, about the age, well Oscar shuerrle kdb are the same age yet their game is beyond that of moses. the only reason he is here is because of the homegrown quota, which is simply sad.Wait, what is this 'Chelsea quality' you are talking about? The fact remains Moses brought a lot to the table last season, assists and goals yet because he isn't that 20M plus signing he isn't Chelsea quality? Do me a favour. Schurrle and KDB have yet prove anything at Chelsea and we await when they do, Oscar did well in his first season and more is expected of him, but to down size what Moses offered us last season is damn right ignorant when he really didn't do much wrong.He was bought as a squad player, he started, came off the bench and scored goals.....what is the wrong in that? The Skipper, Eggman and Chelsea? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ask yourself is he really Chelsea quality? the answer is plain and simple no, about the age, well Oscar shuerrle kdb are the same age yet their game is beyond that of moses. the only reason he is here is because of the homegrown quota, which is simply sad.how is he not chelsea quality??? is he because he got 10 goals last season or is it because he was one of our best players in the europa league... also how is schurlle better than moses already? have u seen him play in the blue shirt? all of us here had hyped marin this way too and see what happened to him... Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 ask yourself is he really Chelsea quality? the answer is plain and simple no, about the age, well Oscar shuerrle kdb are the same age yet their game is beyond that of moses. the only reason he is here is because of the homegrown quota, which is simply sad. Moses is very ok as a learning squad player and is better than most if not all that are on loan. Oscar is a different class. KDB and Schurrle haven't even kicked a ball yet. U CLEARLY DON'T KNOW FOOTBALL. Plus no need to argue as the best will be selected as the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 To say much about Schurrle is too premature. However, I hope he will be better than Moses.Even though, as mentioned here, we should not rely on rumors that Moses might be sold, but if he is for 9m, why not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 10, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted July 10, 2013 A 21yo winger who scored, as a squad player, in his first season with team 11 goals despite missing about two months of it due to the AFCONs and was key to us winning the EL is not good enough to sit on the Chelsea bench next season?!We've become such a spoiled bunch, haven't we? Tomo, Jase, pHaRaOn and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Wait, what is this 'Chelsea quality' you are talking about? The fact remains Moses brought a lot to the table last season, assists and goals yet because he isn't that 20M plus signing he isn't Chelsea quality? Do me a favour. Schurrle and KDB have yet prove anything at Chelsea and we await when they do, Oscar did well in his first season and more is expected of him, but to down size what Moses offered us last season is damn right ignorant when he really didn't do much wrong.He was bought as a squad player, he started, came off the bench and scored goals.....what is the wrong in that?exactly, he is a squad player, and in truth if he wasn't homegrown we wouldn't have bought/possibly keep him. As for Chelsea quality you only have to remember the fa cup match against Manchester united when he started and the rise in quality when Hazard came on for him as to why he is not Chelsea quality ( the drop off in quality is way to drastic). As for sheurlle he is a German international, proven in the Bundisliga and champions league , while KDB is arguably the most important Belgium player in their world cup campaign ( a team full of stars by the way) and has single handedly kept werder Bremen in the German league. Then you compare their versatility and age this is a know brainer, Moses is an ok squad player, but if he is sold you wont see me crying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 exactly, he is a squad player, and in truth if he wasn't homegrown we wouldn't have bought/possibly keep him. As for Chelsea quality you only have to remember the fa cup match against Manchester united when he started and the rise in quality when Hazard came on for him as to why he is not Chelsea quality ( the drop off in quality is way to drastic). As for sheurlle he is a German international, proven in the Bundisliga and champions league , while KDB is arguably the most important Belgium player in their world cup campaign ( a team full of stars by the way) and has single handedly kept werder Bremen in the German league. Then you compare their versatility and age this is a know brainer, Moses is an ok squad player, but if he is sold you wont see me crying about it.Honestly its quite foolish to assume that Andre is better than Moses without even seeing the former play in a Chelsea shirt.As for the Moses exit rumors,I feel that he should stay and see how things work out for him for at least another season.He had an above average debut season with us and I am sure he'll be able to continue that kind of form if given ample chances.However,this season there will be more serious competition for the winger roles.He got his chances last season because he was competing with Benayoun,Marin and the tired Oscar.Now with the arrivals of andre and Kdb,the competition definitely is more intense.Its all for him to decide if he'll be able to accept a minimum role this season or not.If he leaves then I can understand its his decision but to say that he isn't "Chelsea material" really isn't the proper sending off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,698 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 A 21yo winger who scored, as a squad player, in his first season with team 11 goals despite missing about two months of it due to the AFCONs and was key to us winning the EL is not good enough to sit on the Chelsea bench next season?!We've become such a spoiled bunch, haven't we? He is also a home grown, which is important. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 exactly, he is a squad player, and in truth if he wasn't homegrown we wouldn't have bought/possibly keep him. As for Chelsea quality you only have to remember the fa cup match against Manchester united when he started and the rise in quality when Hazard came on for him as to why he is not Chelsea quality ( the drop off in quality is way to drastic). As for sheurlle he is a German international, proven in the Bundisliga and champions league , while KDB is arguably the most important Belgium player in their world cup campaign ( a team full of stars by the way) and has single handedly kept werder Bremen in the German league. Then you compare their versatility and age this is a know brainer, Moses is an ok squad player, but if he is sold you wont see me crying about it.Hang on, your comparing Hazard with Mata now? Your posts are more off track than an Arsenal trophy challenge.You are comparing Schurlle and De Bruyne to someone who has represented Chelsea and delivered the goods. I think some people see a squad player beneath their expectations because of that phrase. No matter whether you wouldn't cry if he was sold you surely cannot take away his contribution for Chelsea last season?Get some perspective for goodness sake. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hang on, your comparing Hazard with Mata now? Your posts are more off track than an Arsenal trophy challenge.You are comparing Schurlle and De Bruyne to someone who has represented Chelsea and delivered the goods. I think some people see a squad player beneath their expectations because of that phrase. No matter whether you wouldn't cry if he was sold you surely cannot take away his contribution for Chelsea last season?Get some perspective for goodness sake.please reread my post, how and when did I compare Hazard and Mata? The perspective is simple, moses is a SQUAD player, nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 please reread my post, how and when did I compare Hazard and Mata? The perspective is simple, moses is a SQUAD player, nothing more.As for Chelsea quality you only have to remember the fa cup match against Manchester united when he started and the rise in quality when Hazard came on for him as to why he is not Chelsea qualityThere is a comparison straight away. Hazard is nigh on the verge of being one of the top footballers in the world if not already, yet you state how much the rise in quality was.Yes he is a squad player, but does that deflect from his achievements from last season? As much as it must annoy you he was a big part of our team last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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