The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I wish people would stop saying how bad it is that we let Borini and Sinclair go. Every club has let one or two youngsters go, who have flourished into great players. Look at United with Piqué and Guissepi Rossi for example. Players who've gone to be world class. Sturridge from City...It happens everywhere.Just because Borini and Sinclair made it doesn't mean we should give every youngster we have a chance. At the time people didn't even mind them going. What if Kakuta (a player many here want to dispose of) goes and develops into a great player? Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_swaggin_96 96 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I wish people would stop saying how bad it is that we let Borini and Sinclair go. Every club has let one or two youngsters go, who have flourished into great players.Look at United with Piqué and Guissepi Rossi for example. Players who've gone to be world class. Sturridge from City...It happens everywhere.Just because Borini and Sinclair made it doesn't mean we should give every youngster we have a chance. At the time people didn't even mind them going.What if Kakuta (a player many here want to dispose of) goes and develops into a great player? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.i hardly give barca defenders credit, and for one i think pique is the most overrated defender in the world@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,707 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I think Wallace is a very talented young man, but he already have played 9 games in Fluminense's first team (according to transfermarkt.co.uk). I guess we should buy him and loan back to Brasil. In 2-3 years he could be as expensive as Oscar or Moura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 http://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/ultimas-noticias/2012/11/06/lateral-do-flu-e-vendido-por-r-15-milhoes-para-o-chelsea-mas-joga-libertadores.htmI has exploded in Brazilian media that we bought him for R$15million and he will come in the summer.It says we had 40% of him, due to Deco's deal. We now, bought the rest 60%...Neither Fluminense nor Chelsea has confirmed it. I personally dont believe it and dont see a reason to buy another RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujo101 75 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Yeah, just read Chelsea have taken up the option on Wallace for just over £4.4 million. He will join next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 @Rmpr, is this Wallace fellow an interesting talent? Is he going to bring anything dynamic to the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Don't think we will see him in England for a while since he won't have a work permit.Unless he racks up some Brazil NT call ups in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Well Flu is leading in brasil serie a and Wallace is their starting RB. Seems like a good talent and only 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 @Rmpr, is this Wallace fellow an interesting talent? Is he going to bring anything dynamic to the squad?Well, just like any Brazilian full backs, Wallace attacks very well but does not have a very impressive defensive ability/work rate.I personally dont like our full backs culture, but he is no scrub. I think it is too early to tell, some believe he will be a Dani Alves and others think he is just in form right now and wont last long. I would tell it is 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 So, he won't be integrated into the team right away? When I heard we were buying a RB, my initial thoughts were that RDM was going to use Azpi and Wallace as our RB's and that would tottally free up Ivanovic to play as a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Surprised this hasn't been posted.http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8235376/Fluminense-s-manager-has-confirmed-full-back-Wallace-is-heading-to-ChelseaFluminense's manager Abel Braga has confirmed young Brazilian full-back Wallace is on his way to Chelsea but the club's director says the deal is yet to be completed.The Blues are closing in on the signing of the 18-year-old in a deal thought to be worth £4.4million.The European champions already own a 40 per cent stake in the defender, who is expected to return to Fluminense on loan for the rest of the season once an agreement has been completed.The Brazilian club's manager Braga says Chelsea have been tracking Wallace for a long time and confirmed the Blues have made their move as the teenager draws reported attention from several other European heavyweights such as Juventus and Inter Milan.He told Terra: "Wallace has been negotiated for a long time. He is a player that has impressed. Do you think people abroad sign someone based on one game?"They watch a player for two, three months - sometimes even a year. They are taking a great player and Fluminense are completely right in selling him."Fluminense's director, Rodrigo Caetano, says the deal is yet to be done, with the necessary paperwork still to be completed."I can't deny there are ongoing negotiations with Chelsea, but the deal isn't done yet, we still have exchange documents," said Caetano.He added: "And there is a non-disclosure agreement clause, and in case the information leaks, the deal might not happen."Let's hope this problem doesn't prevent the deal from happening." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Do we actually need a right back? well it would ultimately relieve Ivanovic from RB duties, IMO he's always been decent at CB, he and Cahill are a good pairing, even though very similar. Wallace looks a lot like Azpilicueta with regard to playing style, and isn't there a certain Todd Kane coming through the ranks? At least our partnership with fluminese which cost us 3 or 4 mios when letting Deco go will pay of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Do we actually need a right back? well it would ultimately relieve Ivanovic from RB duties, IMO he's always been decent at CB, he and Cahill are a good pairing, even though very similar. Wallace looks a lot like Azpilicueta with regard to playing style, and isn't there a certain Todd Kane coming through the ranks?At least our partnership with fluminese which cost us 3 or 4 mios when letting Deco go will pay of.He probably won't play for Chelsea until his 20s or won't play for us at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Surprised this hasn't been posted.I posted it from my Brazilian source, doesnt it count?Thanks for posting in English though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 He probably won't play for Chelsea until his 20s or won't play for us at all....that's probably right cos he'll be loaned around all the time, which is probably necessary but i hope he will only get loaned within the epl, there is no sense going to eredevise when u have been starter in brazil. But why buy a player for 4m who has that low chances of playing for us, if u can get experienced, decent fullbacks in their best years for little more (as Debuchy,Gebresselassie, Jantschke aso) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Recently, we have been more carefull with loan players (Kdb, Lukaku, Courtois) and I believe if Wallace comes, he will go in proper club. I would keep him in brasil for another two years, it has no point of loaning him in championship clubs and lose him. Once he turns 20, he should go directly in our team and continue his development (like Oscar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 that's probably right cos he'll be loaned around all the time, which is probably necessary but i hope he will only get loaned within the epl, there is no sense going to eredevise when u have been starter in brazil. But why buy a player for 4m who has that low chances of playing for us, if u can get experienced, decent fullbacks in their best years for little more (as Debuchy,Gebresselassie, Jantschke aso)If he can't get a work permit he'll get loaned to Holland, Italy or somewhere. Won't go to a PL club unless we get him a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I know this may sound ignorant from me considering the club has professional scouts etc. who are supposed to know what they're doing, but I'm positive that if he wasn't South American, we would have absolutely zero interest in him. I guess the club just feel like adding some potential future squad players or something especially considering the deal we got with Deco, but he really isn't a very good player from what I've seen and I don't see the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8250149/Brazilian-defender-Wallace-s-move-to-Chelsea-from-Fluminense-is-almost-certain-The agent of Fluminense teenager Wallace claims his proposed move to Chelsea is almost done and says he will play at Stamford Bridge rather than going out on loan. The Blues have long been linked with the 18-year-old defender and a deal is close to coming to fruition, according to his representative Frederico Moraes.Chelsea have reportedly owned a 40 per cent stake in Wallace since 2010, following Deco's free transfer from Stamford Bridge to Fluminense, and are set to pay £4.4million for the youngster.Speculation has surfaced the Blues will send the defender straight back to Fluminense on loan once the deal is done, while Serie A club Roma have also been tipped as a possible destination.But Moraes is adamant Wallace will play for Chelsea if he completes the move to West London.He told Centro Suono Sport: "There are very advanced negotiations with Chelsea and the signature is almost certain."If Wallace goes to Chelsea, he will be playing there."I had contact with Roma and many other Italian clubs, but that was a long time ago."I rule out the possibility of a loan (from Chelsea to Roma). If he joins Chelsea he will play for the Blues." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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