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In 2012 I predicted he would become a better player than Eden Hazard. With the help of my friends and family I have since been able to overcome my crack addiction

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Hazard is Hazard, Oscar is Oscar and Mata is Mata.

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Does the Brazilian national team still participate in the Gold Cup? Never seen them there since 2003

It's actually the 2016 Centennial Copa America (celebrating 100 years of the tournament). Got mixed up as USA are the host, which is the first time it's taking place outside SA.
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Listening to a sports talk show from southern Brazil and one of the commentators is a personal friend of Dunga's. Dunga confided that Oscar is indeed not fit and it's not even physical (entirely), but he hasn't regained match fitness since his injury.

He seems to be a player who can only deliver when at 100% and that is a problem. He goes from hot to cold very easily and then takes his time regaining match fitness.

I still think that when on form, he's a very interesting player and has room to grow, but these long bad patches need to be taken into consideration when assessing him as a player and whether we need more and/or better.

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He is the one who needs to step it up the most imo, he hasn't improved in like 3 years. We sold KDB and Mata for this guy...

You are right, but I could argue Cesc has looked more dire, but that is irrelevant. Neither are playing at a high level expected at Chelsea. Neither is Costa or Matic.

I personally stay away from individual personal assessment, at times like this.

We didn't sell KDB and Mata because of Oscar. It doesn't work like that. You are simply wishing you had either of them, since they are doing well and Oscar is not.

It is more complicated then that. I remember in 2013 when we were linked with Schurrle, I felt we shouldn't sign him due to having KDB coming back from loan. I felt really good at the time about having Hazard, KDB, Oscar, Mata, and Moses for three position. But Schurrle was signed, then we signed Willian on the last day of the transfer window. You could argue Schurrle and Willian signing had a much bigger effect on KDB and Mata. Not to mention Mourinho, just not rating either of them.

But I get it blaming Oscar is a nice, effective, and simplistic narrative since he is underperforming. You aren't going to fault Schurrle? He left a year ago. Certainly not Willian either, since he is performing well in most people view.

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You are right, but I could argue Cesc has looked more dire, but that is irrelevant. Neither are playing at a high level expected at Chelsea. Neither is Costa or Matic.

I personally stay away from individual personal assessment, at times like this.

We didn't sell KDB and Mata because of Oscar. It doesn't work like that. You are simply wishing you had either of them, since they are doing well and Oscar is not.

It is more complicated then that. I remember in 2013 when we were linked with Schurrle, I felt we shouldn't sign him due to having KDB coming back from loan. I felt really good at the time about having Hazard, KDB, Oscar, Mata, and Moses for three position. But Schurrle was signed, then we signed Willian on the last day of the transfer window. You could argue Schurrle and Willian signing had a much bigger effect on KDB and Mata. Not to mention Mourinho, just not rating either of them.

But I get it blaming Oscar is a nice, effective, and simplistic narrative since he is underperforming. You aren't going to fault Schurrle? He left a year ago. Certainly not Willian either, since he is performing well in most people view.

I'm just saying if he doesn't step it up this season we should sell him. He hasn't improved at all, we've been waiting for years for him to perform and he has failed.
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That's just too low for an international... sounds like Juventus (or someone working for them) is testing the waters by spreading these rumors and finish for info.

If we believe he's not good enough get a replacement AND keep Oscar for when the replacement is tired/unfit/injured. We will keep on struggling if employing these small squads who rely 100% on the form of certain key players.

Not only that is risky because they may pick up injuries and lose form, but also it gives them too much power.

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That's just too low for an international... sounds like Juventus (or someone working for them) is testing the waters by spreading these rumors and finish for info.

If we believe he's not good enough get a replacement AND keep Oscar for when the replacement is tired/unfit/injured. We will keep on struggling if employing these small squads who rely 100% on the form of certain key players.

Not only that is risky because they may pick up injuries and lose form, but also it gives them too much power.

We should sign a replacement for Oscar and then sell him. We have enough squad fillers already (Mikel, Ramires)..we don't need another one.

I just hope the board let Mourinho sign a quality CM in January....maybe we can take advantage of the situation in Paris

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Some players may want to leave after Friday's incident. So, Reddish-Blue is suggesting we could perhaps raid clubs like PSG for some of their players.

To be fair, that's a fucked up thing to say, to "take advantage".
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We should sign a replacement for Oscar and then sell him. We have enough squad fillers already (Mikel, Ramires)..we don't need another one.

I just hope the board let Mourinho sign a quality CM in January....maybe we can take advantage of the situation in Paris

The day a club like Juventus approach us to sign Mikel is the day I eat my shoe.... :D

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Juventus official Fabio Paratici has reportedly been in London to hold talks with Chelsea over the potential transfer of Oscar.

http://www.calciomercato.it/news/357003/calciomercato-juventus-paratici-a-londra-per-oscar-e-non-solo.html

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