Oscar

[zolayes 14,489]

Only players that are in the "best or top" individually are Hazard and Thibo and Matic.

and despite his age (or maybe because of it ) John Terry

[Unionjack 7,531]

Only players that are in the "best or top" individually are Hazard and Thibo and Matic.

Tho I do probably agree with you I think coming together as a team is more important than great individuality.

I would add 2 or 3 more to those as ones I;d like to keep I wouldn;t mind if we could upgrade any of the others. Not necessarily get rid of them cause they would be great as alternatives, but i do think we would could be better.

[Special Juan 27,439]

So we hope and pray he comes good this season, and if he doesn't? He's had enough time to produce and he quite clear hasn't been anywhere near good enough IMO. I want more of Willian in the #10 role and with potentially a new RW plus Cuadrado the issue of losing him isn't as big as people may think.

[stroey 2,525]

Only players that are in the "best or top" individually are Hazard and Thibo and Matic.

What about Azpi? Our best 1 on 1 defender.

[termninja 5,290]

I don't think our fans should be afraid about selling Oscar unless it's for the Pogba transfer. You forget Mourinho benched Mata because of him, he trusts in the lad.

If Oscar fails to deliver next season though them I think all of us would be very disappointed and he could leave in the next summer.

[Oscar 441]

What about Azpi? Our best 1 on 1 defender.

Dave is the best 1v1 defender here but in general as a fullback, he is not rated as a top player in his position...

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

Dave is the best 1v1 defender here but in general as a fullback, he is not rated as a top player in his position...

He is on top 5 leftback( Marcelo, Alaba, Alba, Kolarov). Luis who is one of top leftback in the 2013-2014 season is on the bench. Tell me who can beat Dave into Chelsea starting XI without my top 5.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

He is on top 5 leftback( Marcelo, Alaba, Alba, Kolarov). Luis who is one of top leftback in the 2013-2014 season is on the bench. Tell me who can beat Dave into Chelsea starting XI without my top 5.

Depends what you're looking for in an LB. If a traditional fullback, Azpi all the way. If your wingers are sub par and the fullback is supposed to be a wing back in effect, then no.

But Azpi for us is perfect.

[Oscar 441]

He is on top 5 leftback( Marcelo, Alaba, Alba, Kolarov). Luis who is one of top leftback in the 2013-2014 season is on the bench. Tell me who can beat Dave into Chelsea starting XI without my top 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxoszLpFdKg

[TheIceMan 596]

Love to see Gaya here he is so amazing!

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxoszLpFdKg

Gaya, Benat, Kurzawa, Sandro... are young star, not WC.

[Oscar 441]

Gaya, Benat, Kurzawa, Sandro... are young star, not WC.

Dave is only considered world class in london.

In Spain, he will never be in the starting 11 again.

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

Dave is only considered world class in london.

In Spain, he will never be in the starting 11 again.

Del Bosque's problem, not Azpilicueta's problem. Cavajal, Juanfran, Benat, Gaya are no better than Azpilicueta.

//wait, this is Oscar's theat

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Dave is only considered world class in london.

In Spain, he will never be in the starting 11 again.

That's because Spain use wingbacks rather than traditional fullbacks like Azpi, while Mourinho prefers a more traditional system is free winger defensive fb unless his winger isn't creative enough and/or cannot or does not service the box effectively see Willian and Ivanovic.

[Oscar 441]

That's because Spain use wingbacks rather than traditional fullbacks like Azpi, while Mourinho prefers a more traditional system is free winger defensive fb unless his winger isn't creative enough and/or cannot or does not service the box effectively see Willian and Ivanovic.

Most teams have their fullbacks come forward.

Munich with alaba, bernat and lahm.

PSG with maxwell and even marquinhos goes forward quite a bit.

Madrid with marcelo, coentrao and carvalj

Barca with alves and alba

Atletico does with juanfran and when they had luis

Juventus wingbacks in lichestiner and evra.

Arsenal with monreal, gibbs and the barcelona kid.

City with zableta and clichy/kolarav

IS their any big team where the fullbacks are defensive players first outside of here?

[Gilvorak 3,734]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH9h6uB1mMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iupsSS5AK2M

What a guy, ridiculous talent & intelligence. He's scored some ridiculous goals over the years. Even last season the QPR & Palace goals were special

[Tomo 21,733]

Only players that are in the "best or top" individually are Hazard and Thibo and Matic.

And Costa

[Tomo 21,733]

Dave is the best 1v1 defender here but in general as a fullback, he is not rated as a top player in his position...

Which shows a double standard in the average football fan.

If wingers were judged on both attacking and defensive quality off their game most if not all the names that were considered the best these days wouldn't be there, however at fullback you can be a complete rock defensively but not the best going forward and your name doesn't become a consideration when talking about the best.

Infact if anything fullback are more judged on what they offer going forward and if they can run in a straight line, Kyle Walker was talked up as some potential great a few years back, Bosingwa was regarded at one time as one of the best full backs in Europe, neither can defend for shit, it's criminal that Azpi doesn't get the credit he richly deserves, he isn't as bad going forward as made out any way.