BenIsLegend 475 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This thread has been too quite of late nothing to report etc. He is back on Monday and I'm sure this thread will kick back into life then. I think everyone is waiting to see if we get back the Oscar from the beginning of last year or the Oscar past February returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Nah certainly an hatched egg now after the world cup experience. Am happy he did not get scared of competition from fabregas and run to PSG just like lukaku ran away (lol). He is a little boss. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Nah certainly an hatched egg now after the world cup experience. Am happy he did not get scared of competition from fabregas and run to PSG just like lukaku ran away (lol). He is a little boss.More like PSG cannot sign him because they blew their whole budget on Luiz. Next summer we will see if PSG come in again and if Reus wants to leave I hope they do so we can sign him.No matter how good Oscar gets Reus will always be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted July 31, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 31, 2014 More like PSG cannot sign him because they blew their whole budget on Luiz. Next summer we will see if PSG come in again and if Reus wants to leave I hope they do so we can sign him.No matter how good Oscar gets Reus will always be betterand then the next kid will be better and then the next and the next and the next.I bet you identify yourself a lot with Florentino Perez... seanptmiller, bluesman2610, Dion and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hopefully he starts the season with a bang to shut everyone up. bluesman2610, TheIceMan, Dion and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 and then the next kid will be better and then the next and the next and the next.I bet you identify yourself a lot with Florentino Perez...Yep that is how the club works, once we identify a better player and affordable we replace them with the new players. Just because we have a good squad atm doesn't mean they will be going for the next 5-10 years. For example Diego Costa might break his leg in Xmas, out for 6 months and comeback as a new Torres. Do we keep him as well or sign Cavani for example who is available for 30m?The club is improving all the times and all the players are nothing more than employees, just ask Mata and Luiz. If Jose get sacked next year and Klopp came in, insisting on buying Reus to replace Oscar, do we let him? Of course we do...This idea is different from Real Madrid, who just buy super stars every summer no matter how good of a season the previous player had. They are run differently from us. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yep that is how the club works, once we identify a better player and affordable we replace them with the new players. Just because we have a good squad atm doesn't mean they will be going for the next 5-10 years. For example Diego Costa might break his leg in Xmas, out for 6 months and comeback as a new Torres. Do we keep him as well or sign Cavani for example who is available for 30m?The club is improving all the times and all the players are nothing more than employees, just ask Mata and Luiz. If Jose get sacked next year and Klopp came in, insisting on buying Reus to replace Oscar, do we let him? Of course we do...This idea is different from Real Madrid, who just buy super stars every summer no matter how good of a season the previous player had. They are run differently from us.yep, very Florentino Perez of you, although to be fair to you, Florentino does it out of a whim, not necessarily because he identified a better player.Players go through ups and downs and stable clubs give them time to regroup - whether in the bench or in action - and try to develop them. Reus had ups and dows - especially when he was Oscar age. I'm not even disagreeing with you that Reus is a better player (he might even be, I wouldn't know, as I keep saying I don't like comparing players).Smart managers see how players work in their system, regardless if there are 100 another kids better than his player. If he does the job he's been asked, then why risk a change? Who's to say Reus would even fit EPL or our team? He probably would, but it's a risk nonetheless. I'm not advocating Oscar's cause. He hasn't been doing the job he was asked, so it means he's been failing, but I have a huge problem with the bold part of your statement. Football teams don't work like that. I've seen so many cases throughout the years of getting a better player to replace a good player but who was making a job, only to disrupt a whole system or simply not fitting it. We have more than enough human resource to have a team that can win any title we play - because good players isn't the only variable to win things - so I think we should work with those first, see what happens. If one of them compromises the whole system - as Mata did, for example - than replace him, but we have more than capable players.Oscar could leave, he could even leave deservedly - but it doesn't mean we need to bring someone. We have Willian and Cesc, not to say Hazard capable of playing #10. Those are some very good players. No need to go to the market for a better, improved AM. communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 More like PSG cannot sign him because they blew their whole budget on Luiz. Next summer we will see if PSG come in again and if Reus wants to leave I hope they do so we can sign him.No matter how good Oscar gets Reus will always be betterI don't think Reus for Oscar is particularly worthwhile unless you're moving Hazard to 10. Either way we have the likes of Boga coming through so there's pressure on Oscar and we don't necessarily have to go into the market.As for why this thread has been quiet....well there's no reason to talk about him. Everyone hopes he's not as shit as he has been for the last 6 months and it's not like there's any reason to think about him beyond that. When he doesn't play you don't miss him. Fabregas at 10 is a far more enticing prospect at the moment and I'd quite happily go with that and have Matic and Ramires/Van Ginkel behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 More like PSG cannot sign him because they blew their whole budget on Luiz. Next summer we will see if PSG come in again and if Reus wants to leave I hope they do so we can sign him.No matter how good Oscar gets Reus will always be betterWhy would PSG contact him if they can't sign him? Since when did reus become a CAM? Pls sort yourself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yep that is how the club works, once we identify a better player and affordable we replace them with the new players. Just because we have a good squad atm doesn't mean they will be going for the next 5-10 years. For example Diego Costa might break his leg in Xmas, out for 6 months and comeback as a new Torres. Do we keep him as well or sign Cavani for example who is available for 30m?The club is improving all the times and all the players are nothing more than employees, just ask Mata and Luiz. If Jose get sacked next year and Klopp came in, insisting on buying Reus to replace Oscar, do we let him? Of course we do...This idea is different from Real Madrid, who just buy super stars every summer no matter how good of a season the previous player had. They are run differently from us.We only sell uncommited players like lukaku, and players who want to leave like mata, luiz, kdb but also players not good enough for our squad, marin, van anholt. Oscar is a commited player and wants to stay and he is good enough for any club in the world. We are not in permanent transition some players must stay for stability especially oscar, hazard, cesar, courtois who have broken into the team at an early age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 We only sell uncommited players like lukaku, and players who want to leave like mata, luiz, kdb but also players not good enough for our squad, marin, van anholt. Oscar is a commited player and wants to stay and he is good enough for any club in the world. We are not in permanent transition some players must stay for stability especially oscar, hazard, cesar, courtois who have broken into the team at an early age.Mata and Luiz didn't want to leave, we just sold them because we found better options and have too good to turn down offers for them. The same might be happening to Oscar, he even admitted he has held talk with PSG before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Oscar is 22 years old. 22!!!!!!! FFS he's supposed to be the future of this club! kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFC12 134 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't want Oscar to leave at all. He has huge potential can be one of the worlds best midfielders in 2-3 years.. He was our best player till December then he suffered burnout and had world cup in his mind that affected his performances like Jose said. Now he's having a one month rest which will do him good. I can see him flourishing this season. And not to mention he's only 22 and is only going to improve. Selling him wouldn't be wise. sherry33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Mata and Luiz didn't want to leave, we just sold them because we found better options and have too good to turn down offers for them. The same might be happening to Oscar, he even admitted he has held talk with PSG before.I get it you don't like oscar but you don't need to be faster than your shadow. May be we should sell hazard because we can afford robben your logic is illogical. We won't sell players we don't want to sell. If we do want to sell oscar and PSG knocks then we sell but for now we don't want to sell and he doesn't want to leave same for all our players even though they all have a price. PSG knocked we gave them luiz because he is happy to go, same with mata, kdb and lukaku but also the club is happy to sell. We are building a team and not experimenting with every player that looks better than one of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Of all our players that made it to the last four of the world cup/ Semifinal Oscar was the only first 11 team player amongst willian, ramires and schurrle. Irrelevant stat but true, chelsea players did not have a good world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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