Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not necessarily have to do anything magical but a matter of who can do it most effectively if you consider what we are doing or at least should be doing.Disagree when you said we improved when Oscar moved to the middle. Did nothing of note while in there. Even ran into cul-de-sacs when trying to get past players.And since when I'm blaming Oscar alone for this defeat? Did I even say he's responsible we lost by conceding those goals? No. If you realize, I even lambast a few others in their own thread!I was talking in a broader sense when saying he is not the only one to blame. I did not say you said it, did I?Also, we drastically improved when Torres came in and we played Oscar in the middle, between 50-65min. That is my opinion anyways...Yes, he had one terrible game (not only one, to be quite honest). I just think the overreaction here is stupid to say the least. Loan him? Sell him? Wtf is that? Peace. and GhanaBoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I thought he was decent today.Very harsh criticism. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I was talking in a broader sense when saying he is not the only one to blame. I did not say you said it, did I?Also, we drastically improved when Torres came in and we played Oscar in the middle, between 50-65min. That is my opinion anyways...Things did get better when Oscar was moved to the pivot alongside Ramires but otherwise, he wasn't effective when being played out wide or as the CAM.Yes, he had one terrible game (not only one, to be quite honest). I just think the overreaction here is stupid to say the least. Loan him? Sell him? Wtf is that?Never said any of those. You would have to excuse me on that part. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 You talking about club football, right?Because Kaka and Ronaldinho never played great for Brazil...of course i talk about club football. Apart from international football being a joke under the circumstances FIFA provide, i got no idea for what some quali matches against the likes of paraguay and ecuador and some friendlies count for. Having had some decent games for brazil in unimportant or no competitions does not make oscar a class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 of course i talk about club football. Apart from international football being a joke under the circumstances FIFA provide, i got no idea for what some quali matches against the likes of paraguay and ecuador and some friendlies count for. Having had some decent games for brazil in unimportant or no competitions does not make oscar a class act.If you talk about club football, you should know it took Ronaldinho 2 season to go to a major club and Kaka first season for Milan was horrible.Also, Ronaldinho and Kaka never played half the amount Oscar does for Brazil. And I talk England, Italy, Argentina, USA (which isnt that bad), etc. It is not like European Qualify is much better than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 cant hold the ball. cant dodge past players on the wings. cant cross. plus the worst attitude i have seen in any young player for chelsea. HOPELESS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Things did get better when Oscar was moved to the pivot alongside Ramires but otherwise, he wasn't effective when being played out wide or as the CAM.No, he wasnt. But he played better when not wide...Never said any of those. You would have to excuse me on that part.Again, not on you mate. Do not take things personal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Loan him? Sell him? Wtf is that?Hey Romper, Those are plain idiocies or shouts made without thinking. Still, I wait for Oscar after he had a well-deserved rest. After this - kinda ultra long - seaon for him, it would be unwise to judge him now and way too premature. I just wonder what makes him so good in Brazil NT (which he does!) that is lacking now. With Hazard it is speed around him, a critical succesfactor (he lacks that in the NT). But I wonder what Oscar needs to really play like he can. Greetz mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Hey Romper,Those are plain idiocies or shouts made without thinking. Still, I wait for Oscar after he had a well-deserved rest. After this - kinda ultra long - seaon for him, it would be unwise to judge him now and way too premature.I just wonder what makes him so good in Brazil NT (which he does!) that is lacking now. With Hazard it is speed around him, a critical succesfactor (he lacks that in the NT). But I wonder what Oscar needs to really play like he can.Greetz mate.He won't have rest until after the world cup...... lolBrazil has Lucas,Hulk, and Neymar. Those 3 are speed demons, esp. Lucas and Neymar. Also, they have cms that can pass the ball (granted Rambo doesnt start) and Marcelo and Alves that can open up the flanks as well. Also, their is no LANGUAGE BARRIER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 And I talk England, Italy, Argentina, USA (which isnt that bad), etc. It is not like European Qualify is much better than that...Friendlies. And of course Euro Qualify is shit as is 95% of international football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Hey Romper,Those are plain idiocies or shouts made without thinking. Still, I wait for Oscar after he had a well-deserved rest. After this - kinda ultra long - seaon for him, it would be unwise to judge him now and way too premature.I just wonder what makes him so good in Brazil NT (which he does!) that is lacking now. With Hazard it is speed around him, a critical succesfactor (he lacks that in the NT). But I wonder what Oscar needs to really play like he can.Greetz mate.Oscar plays a free role in the middle, not such a hidden secret!Brasil: Free CAM!------------ Julio Cesar ------------Alves - Luiz - T. Silva - Marcelo----- Fernando - Hernanes ------------------ Oscar -----------------Lucas---------------------- Neymar-------------- Fred -------------------Chelsea: Disciplined Winger!---------- Cech --------------Azi - Ivanovic - Luiz - Cole----- Ramires - Mikel ------Oscar --- Mata --- Hazard------------- Ba --------------- Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No, he wasnt. But he played better when not wide...Again, not on you mate. Do not take things personal!Did not. Not going to be affected by the bad weather.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Did not. Not going to be affected by the bad weather.. THE WEATHER IS BAD TODAY! I was going to the beach, but it is raining... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Oscar has LOADS of potential but there is something seriously wrong with him, It seems he's not mentally ready for anymore action. It's not 'bout his fitness. Dayum! Passing and crossing has nothing to do with the fatigue, There weren't a single cross that reached it's destination, and his passing was a little better than Mikel which is no achievement -__-I could be completely wrong but if i were Rafa, I would only use him as a sub, only in the games where we are aready leading by two goals or something.Imo He has done his work for this season, and I believe, his next season would be lots better with a proper pivot (: didierforever and yuvala 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 This season is just too long, just wait and we will see something different next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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