Oscar

[lucio 5,418]

you mean watch YouTube highlights that are designed to make a player look good?

I would rather read match reports and player ratings, where a lot say he done nothing in the game, hence why he was taken off.

Highlights that show his errors too , but he still looked good.

http://www.itv.com/champions-league/liverpool-0-3-real-madrid-player-ratings

"One of Liverpool's better players on the night"

And what about his performance vs Manchester city ? Oscar couldn't achieve that in a million years. Or his performance against us.

I don't mind Oscar at all. But he can't touch coutinho.

[Oscar 441]

Highlights that show his errors too , but he still looked good.

http://www.itv.com/champions-league/liverpool-0-3-real-madrid-player-ratings

"One of Liverpool's better players on the night"

And what about his performance vs Manchester city ? Oscar couldn't achieve that in a million years. Or his performance against us.

I don't mind Oscar at all. But he can't touch coutinho.

Except Coutinho would never start over Oscar here.

maybe at liverpool, where the only defense is a good offense.

Oscar can't dribble like Coutinho can, so maybe that is your point, which is true... Coutinho is definitely a better dribbler

[lucio 5,418]

Except Coutinho would never start over Oscar here.

maybe at liverpool, where the only defense is a good offense.

Coutinho is just as capable ,as Oscar with work rate and tackling , as is isco. Probably both more so. Just because it's Oscar's main strength , doesn't mean his more talented rivals don't also have it in abundance

[Oscar 441]

Coutinho is just as capable ,as Oscar with work rate and tackling , as is isco. Probably both more so. Just because it's Oscar's main strength , doesn't mean his more talented rivals don't also have it in abundance

Except Cout isn't, which is exactly why he has no place on brazil... Costa, willian and Oscar can all put up a shift defensively and go forward, Coutinho can't, which is exactly why he wasn't considered in the world cup squad and even now with oscar/ramires injured and neymar getting hurt, didn't get a start in either friendlies. Also, the only reason he got called up was because Oscar got injured.

if coutinho was just as capable or better, than why wouldn't he have a place on brazil to complement Neymar?

Also, coutinho is essentially last out of the ams right now, with potentially felipe anderson taking his spot as 6 am.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Highlights that show his errors too , but he still looked good.

http://www.itv.com/champions-league/liverpool-0-3-real-madrid-player-ratings

"One of Liverpool's better players on the night"

And what about his performance vs Manchester city ? Oscar couldn't achieve that in a million years. Or his performance against us.

I don't mind Oscar at all. But he can't touch coutinho.

Coutinho was far from impressive against Real Madrid, its embarrassing that you are trying to convince yourself that he was good, or maybe you just have low standards.

Coutunho is simply a level below Oscar, he is a better dribbler other then that not much else.

[lucio 5,418]

Coutinho was far from impressive against Real Madrid, its embarrassing that you are trying to convince yourself that he was good, or maybe you just have low standards.

Coutunho is simply a level below Oscar, he is a better dribbler other then that not much else.

http://www.kopleft.com/2014/10/25/liverpool-0-real-madrid-3-lfc-tactics-player-ratings/

His own fans were impressed , whilst being critical of many others. Hardly something to be embarrassed over. I watched the game , thought he did well , and some others agreed. Simple.

[bluesman2610 1,341]

Coutinho was in PFA team because he scored two worldly goals at the back end of the season there were players in lesser teams that had better stats than him not alone our own Cesc Fabregas who had nearly 20 assists and was a huge factor in winning our title was not selected, or the leagues scoring champion Aguero.. I understand you guys may not rate Oscar but Coutinho bar a few good games a season is not better than Oscar if we look at body of work. They are both inconsistent players but our boy is still better

[Pacquiao 1,834]

http://www.kopleft.com/2014/10/25/liverpool-0-real-madrid-3-lfc-tactics-player-ratings/

His own fans were impressed , whilst being critical of many others. Hardly something to be embarrassed over. I watched the game , thought he did well , and some others agreed. Simple.

Lol Liverpool fans think he is the best player in the league! probably the worst example you could get!

I would rather read what journalist have to say, the people who praise him when he is good and criticize him when he isn't. unlike Liverpool fans who just praise him 24/7.

Daily Mail - 6/10 - Went closest for Liverpool with a crisp shot from outside the box that smacked the post. But failed to dazzle like he can.

Telegraph - 6/10

Goal.com - 3/5 - a surprise starter in truth but really could not influence the match in any way.

Mirror - 5/10 - Guilty of trying too hard, lost good possession too often.

ITV - 6/10 - looked bright to start with before fading as Real took over. Hit the post with a fine effort at the end of the first half before being substituted in the second. one of Liverpool's better players on the night.

Independent - 5/10

they all can't be wrong can they? I bet even Coutinho would say he wasn't great in that game, you are sounding like a Coutinho fanboy really.

[DYC. 7,542]

Well, Oscar is the more complete player but Coutinho isn't a level below him, they're on the same level. What Coutinho has going for him though is superior technique.

Coutinho is Hazard and Neymar level in terms of natural ability but you look at his career so far, and his doesn't compare to those two players. But he could explode at any time.

There's no denying Oscar has been favoured to Coutinho or whoever under three different NT managers though, all possessing different views and playing differing styles of football. As much as people criticise Oscar, that speaks very loudly.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Coutinho isn't close to Neymar & Hazard's talent level. He's a good dribbler but so are Bolasie & Victor Moses. He's literally only rated because of that & his 1/15 shot attempts.

Definition of a highlight reel player. Looks nice but he's extremely inefficient. Just avoid this thread once Oscar returns from injury & our form magically improves. Definitely going to be re-quoting some of these gems.

[Barbara 15,149]

Well, Oscar is the more complete player but Coutinho isn't a level below him, they're on the same level. What Coutinho has going for him though is superior technique.

please... people here complain about Oscar's inconsistency when he plays well half of a season while Coutinho plays well a handful matches plus a few other screams there and here.

He's better technically I agree, but much more inconsistent. If he was a Chelsea player, his thread would have double the posts Oscar's has moaning about every breath he takes. If both figure out their inconsistency issues, I think Coutinho will become be best player, but as it stands, Oscar is more consistent than him and that's saying a lot.

But then I read a little further and someone says he can do the same work rate as Oscar... I'm done with his lack of logic. You guys can get your pants wet for Coutinho all you want, but as DYC said, three different NT coaches with completely different styles don't think Coutinho is NT material yet (in the starting eleven). As much as I think Dunga and Felipão are stupid, Mano isn't and the fact Coutinho - being Brazilian and having his name ending naturally with inho - isn't in a bigger club, with bigger ambitions should just prove you that he isn't the second coming some TCers make him out to be.

Brazilian players - as bad as they are recently with few exceptions - are still a fancy brand of players in the world. If Coutinho was half what has been written in this forum by him, he'd be in a much bigger club than poor old Liverpool.

[The Skipper 20,593]

please... people here complain about Oscar's inconsistency when he plays well half of a season while Coutinho plays well a handful matches plus a few other screams there and here.

He's better technically I agree, but much more inconsistent. If he was a Chelsea player, his thread would have double the posts Oscar's has moaning about every breath he takes. If both figure out their inconsistency issues, I think Coutinho will become be best player, but as it stands, Oscar is more consistent than him and that's saying a lot.

But then I read a little further and someone says he can do the same work rate as Oscar... I'm done with his lack of logic. You guys can get your pants wet for Coutinho all you want, but as DYC said, three different NT coaches with completely different styles don't think Coutinho is NT material yet (in the starting eleven). As much as I think Dunga and Felipão are stupid, Mano isn't and the fact Coutinho - being Brazilian and having his name ending naturally with inho - isn't in a bigger club, with bigger ambitions should just prove you that he isn't the second coming some TCers make him out to be.

Brazilian players - as bad as they are recently with few exceptions - are still a fancy brand of players in the world. If Coutinho was half what has been written in this forum by him, he'd be in a much bigger club than poor old Liverpool.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, what exactly are you saying please to? The fact that I said Coutinho is on the same level as Oscar or? Both have consistency issues as well.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, what exactly are you saying please to? The fact that I said Coutinho is on the same level as Oscar or? Both have consistency issues as well.

Who has achieved more at domestic club level? Oscar

who has achieved more in Europe? Oscar

Who has achieved more on the International stage? Oscar

but both are apparently on the same level.

[Stats 7,053]

Who has achieved more at domestic club level? Oscar

who has achieved more in Europe? Oscar

Who has achieved more on the International stage? Oscar

but both are apparently on the same level.

Well Oscar is at a better club...

I would not be surprised to see Coutinho make a move to a bigger club in the future.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Well Oscar is at a better club...

I would not be surprised to see Coutinho make a move to a bigger club in the future.

well they both play for the same national team, and being at a bigger club is a horrible excuse, people at smaller clubs then Liverpool have achieved more then Coutinho like Koke, Vitolo, Bacca, Hamsik and Reus to name a few.

The excuses for Coutinho are getting more and more pathetic, and Coutinho simply isn't good enough to play for any of the big clubs. He is a Europa League standard player.

[Special Juan 27,424]

No Oscar, still injured. Nearly there apparently.

[lucio 5,418]

you can support oscar, without pretending other players are no good. just an idea

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Chelsea FC ‏@ChelseaFC 14m14 minutes ago

Jose says Oscar won't be available tomorrow but is 'almost there' and could be in contention to feature next Wednesday. #CFC