Kisho 33 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Oscar, hulk, azp! business done! :blue scalf: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whinni09 37 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I just wonder where he will fit in our formation, or which formation we will use to get Hazard, Mata and Oscar to fit in it.. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 oscar will be lampard under study for this season. They do say oscar is the new kaka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Internacional deny Oscar offers"There have been no offers for Oscar and Leandro Damiao," Luigi told Radio Gaucha."Internacional have the practice of selling one or two players every transfer window."This system has been working and we will keep it, developing players, then finding replacements if they are sold while the window is open."So we might sell a player, but right now no offer has been made for any player in the squad."Oscar admits he is in the dark over Chelsea's reported interest in him and that he will let his club decide his future."I follow there and sincerely I do not know news about Chelsea," Oscar told O Globo."I know that some European clubs are interested in me but I have spoken with the president ( Giovanni Luigi) and he insists that they still have not received any formal offer."http://www1.skysport...ny-Oscar-offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I think we will see some of this next season....................Mikel.................Oscar...........................Hulk...............Mata..............Hazard.....................................Torres.............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellpick 13 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Can Oscar play the role of Modric as a playmaker? If so it may be a good sign. Hope it is not a plan B for buying Hulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This reminds me of the Lukaku deal, expect the transfer fee is even more insane.A truly baffling signing this would be, there is no space in the squad for him. He's an attacking midfielder, he won't play deep, we will leak goals next season, a squad of small fragile players. We desperately need a 'physical presence' to balance out the small technical players further forward, ala Hulk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 You seem to know about this guy a lot so I want to ask you,Can he play as a deep lying playmaker?The role currently Lampard is playing?More important what role you think would suit him the best?The one you just put? Behind the striker where Mata plays?I wouldn't say i know a lot, I've seen him play for the senior Brazilian side each time and I've seen him a couple of times for his club side, I would say Henrique has a far deeper knowledge of the player.From what I have seen of him I have been hugely impressed, he instantly caught my eye as a top prospect. I believe he can play deeper, ala Modric but I think you might be reducing his attacking instincts if you play him as part of a double pivot, the lad is a number 10, a true number 10, while Hazard and Mata can play out wide, it would leave the number 10 spot open to Oscar, obviously it wouldn't be a rigid formation, those players are mobile and intelligent enough to constantly switch positions.I definitely think the number 10 would be his best role, though he has occasionally played out wide for brief periods in the matches I have seen, he has the qualities to do that but I would definitely say that primarily he is a number 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Can Oscar play the role of Modric as a playmaker?Yes. He's similar to Modric also as he can play either further forward or deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This reminds me of the Lukaku deal, expect the transfer fee is even more insane.A truly baffling signing this would be, there is no space in the squad for him. He's an attacking midfielder, he won't play deep, we will leak goals next season, a squad of small fragile players. We desperately need a 'physical presence' to balance out the small technical players further forward, ala Hulk.Oscar can play deep. He has played a deep lying playmaker role for Brazil often in recent International matches, you only have to youtube Oscar vs USA or Oscar vs Denmark to see. He is very effective in a deep role playing kind of like Romeu but quicker and can go forward to more effect! Oscar is naturally a central attacking midfielder but can also play wing too which he has assisted a fair few goals in his International appearances. This is would be a very good signing for us and talking of physical presence i agree that playing in the Premier League week in, week out you do need some power to match pace but if these players can produce their best football who's to say their raw skill and ability isn't enough to whip teams every week? We have Ramirez who is a gritty and determined player along with Romeu who isn't exactly weak, with the Mikel, Lukaku, KDB and Lampard who aren't exactly pushovers on the ball I don't think the need for Hulk is as essential as everybody believes! Just because we have become use to having Drogba who was a powerhouse doesn't mean we have to continue playing with that bulldozer style going forward I mean after all aren't we trying to change the way we play and win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This reminds me of the Lukaku deal, expect the transfer fee is even more insane.A truly baffling signing this would be, there is no space in the squad for him. He's an attacking midfielder, he won't play deep, we will leak goals next season, a squad of small fragile players. We desperately need a 'physical presence' to balance out the small technical players further forward, ala Hulk.I dont agree at all, I very strongly disagree. Why cant small, quality players win things? If they are good enough they can win things. Look no further than Barcelona. Eden Hazard is a player of the highest quality, Juan Mata is a wonderful player and added a lot to the team last season, Oscar has an incredible amount of potentian and would be an addition to any squad in world football. We still have some big players with a presence, Terry, Lampard, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic, Mikel, Essien, Cech, they are all big players with a big physical presence. We've needed attacking flair for such a long time and that is finally happening with signings like Mata, Hazard, Marin and, hopefully, Oscar. Signing good footballers can only be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This reminds me of the Lukaku deal, expect the transfer fee is even more insane.A truly baffling signing this would be, there is no space in the squad for him. He's an attacking midfielder, he won't play deep, we will leak goals next season, a squad of small fragile players. We desperately need a 'physical presence' to balance out the small technical players further forward, ala Hulk.I agree I would love to have Hulk as well, but I don't think the Lukaku comparison is right.Lukaku had no chances due to the striker we had.Lets not forget that we also wasted a lot of time on a 50 Million player to help get his confidence on smaller teams....While Oscar has many positions to play and should not be hard to get a more games then Lukaku.Surely if he can't get ahead of Malouda and Meireles, it does not merit such a buy then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 With all this technical problems, we will probably play much more offensive, but we all saw how terrible defence we had under Avb who tried attacking style. And our defence remains the same. We havent bought CDM either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This exact same thing happened last summer, we had a winger crisis, yet signed Lukaku for £18m. Regardless of the 'investment', he was not a necessity, we left our priority signings until the last hours of the window. Oscar isn't a natural winger and he faces stiff competition for the number 10 role. This is £25m that 'should' be going towards the Hulk transfer fee and a right back.Prioritisation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 With all this technical problems, we will probably play much more offensive, but we all saw how terrible defence we had under Avb who tried attacking style. And our defence remains the same. We havent bought CDM either...The connection between our defence, midfield and forwards was non existent under AVB. The set up was a shambles with no real transition when turning defence into attack, If RDM get's it right and can get us playing as a unit when defending and attacking It really won't matter if we play an attacking style. Just look at Barca and how they defend as a unit and attack as a whole too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelasticot 111 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 With all this technical problems, we will probably play much more offensive, but we all saw how terrible defence we had under Avb who tried attacking style. And our defence remains the same. We havent bought CDM either... Tried an attacking style, not attacking style. Footbal is not one dimensional you have,a wide range of attacking styles that do not involve a high line at the back. Besides we have squad depth now which will allow wide players to contribute more to the defensive duties. adding technique experts to.the team will also allow us to retain possession and force other teams into their own half limiting tha attacking threat. Domination is still one of the best ways to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fAnta 107 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This exact same thing happened last summer, we had a winger crisis, yet signed Lukaku for £18m. Regardless of the 'investment', he was not a necessity, we left our priority signings until the last hours of the window. Oscar isn't a natural winger and he faces stiff competition for the number 10 role. This is £25m that 'should' be going towards the Hulk transfer fee and a right back.Prioritisation..With our UCl win there's no need to be so stingy we won so much money who cares what english media say, chelsea reinvest what they earned thats the simple fact. we're lucky to have an owner who is rich and will reinvest so quickly unlike arsenal. Besides this boy isn't as flimsy as your saying he's around 5'10 a bit skinny, but so was Ronaldo. He's young and can bring Chelsea that extra flair and cutting edge. This won't affect us going for Hulk I'm certain he will be pursued, the source are sure about this. he is versatile and i trust we can find a way to get Mata hazard and Oscar together with hopefully Hulk playing together. Lampard's time is coming to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 The connection between our defence, midfield and forwards was non existent under AVB. The set up was a shambles with no real transition when turning defence into attack, If RDM get's it right and can get us playing as a unit when defending and attacking It really won't matter if we play an attacking style. Just look at Barca and how they defend as a unit and attack as a whole too.Comparisson to barca is way to difficult...Their power and dominance comes from several years of training and playing together. Theyall pass great and that is their power. And yet on ocasions, they look terrible in defence (against Milan or Osasuna are good examples). Our team (Hazard, Marin, Mata, Oscar) never played together before, not club or national level. They dont pass with such excelence, or keep possesion, also we dont play in Spain where you have only 3 realy difficult teams and style allows you lot of possesion and playing in attack (since all teams are very offensive). Here in england, teams play defensive when other team is having lot of possesion. And even barca is not good in such situations. The best against defensive teams is pure power we had in Drogba, Anelka and Malouda, now we only have technicaly gifted smaller players, not including defence. One bigger player I think is almost a need, no mather what style we will play. And what is most important to develop attacking football is TIME. With so many new players, we will surely need time for them to find chemistry or whatever is that mind team-working connection called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This exact same thing happened last summer, we had a winger crisis, yet signed Lukaku for £18m. Regardless of the 'investment', he was not a necessity, we left our priority signings until the last hours of the window. Oscar isn't a natural winger and he faces stiff competition for the number 10 role. This is £25m that 'should' be going towards the Hulk transfer fee and a right back.Prioritisation..I believe the board see Oscar as an alternative to Modric and it has nothing to do with the potential breakdown of Hulk's transfer. And if you have watched his matches you should notice his interception skill is very good and his balance is just as good as Hazard if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 This exact same thing happened last summer, we had a winger crisis, yet signed Lukaku for £18m. Regardless of the 'investment', he was not a necessity, we left our priority signings until the last hours of the window. Oscar isn't a natural winger and he faces stiff competition for the number 10 role. This is £25m that 'should' be going towards the Hulk transfer fee and a right back.Prioritisation..Listen, this is not £25m, its £19,8, since that 25 is not english pounds, but euros.There is no winger crisis, we dont need wingers like Robben and Rybery to win things, and its not true we dont have wingers, since we have Marko Marin and Ramires.We still are in the beginning of the transfer window, buying Oscar doesnt mean we won buy a winger to solve the "winger crisis". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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