mediator 2,026 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Lol really nice one Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 not by you but I see through some of the other Belgian members that like to rubbish players who they see as rivals for their own..in Oscars case it's probably more KDB but with Oscar being a possible candidate for all of midfield positions outside of a sole DM.he can be seen as a rival. To further my point,Shurrle,Oscar,Van Ginkel have all been rubbished prior and since signing and all strikers we get linked with get it too. I Don't see Spanish members rubbish Oscar and other rivals for their players spot in the team.I Don't read every post tho as I'm just a casual member who only finds time to be here outside of the football seasons.Nah I think you're looking to deep into it. And other than the troll none is being unfair to Oscar. I think everyone is making good and fair points both for and against. It's been a perfectly healthy debate. Stingray and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob345 1 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Welcome back, Biteewho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob345 1 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 is it you ahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 He did make impact in the big matches , goals vs juve and shaktar , assists vs UnitedAlso Goals vs liverpool and spurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 is it you ahahahaYou still haven't been banned... You're on some GTA shit runing away from these mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Great Goal, looks more mature in statue too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Good goal, but doesn't control the game like Mata does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 lol people criticizing oscar.Oscar is an attacking midfielder with one of the highest work rate in world football. It will be easy for him to get more assists if he just decides to forget about the team defending and stay up front and reserve his energy wasted from marking players.Thats the true reason why cronaldo and messi succeed so well, they have 0 defensive contribution and all their stamina is used in attacking, if oscar decides to use more of his attacking energy to put in more defensive effort for the team, it doesnt mean he's not good enough GhanaBoy and edenhazard17 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 lol people criticizing oscar.Oscar is an attacking midfielder with one of the highest work rate in world football. It will be easy for him to get more assists if he just decides to forget about the team defending and stay up front and reserve his energy wasted from marking players.Thats the true reason why cronaldo and messi succeed so well, they have 0 defensive contribution and all their stamina is used in attacking, if oscar decides to use more of his attacking energy to put in more defensive effort for the team, it doesnt mean he's not good enough lol, how many #9 have defensive responsibilities? Ronaldo is actually pretty helpful defensively. If we want our #10 to split his attention 50/50 then we might as well play 433. Just like I don't want my striker being too busy to score, I don't want my #10 being focused on playing defense. Mata controlled the game like crazy when he came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 lol, how many #9 have defensive responsibilities? Ronaldo is actually pretty helpful defensively. If we want our #10 to split his attention 50/50 then we might as well play 433. Just like I don't want my striker being too busy to score, I don't want my #10 being focused on playing defense. Mata controlled the game like crazy when he came on.Actually in modern football, no 9 has defensive responsibility. He need to be able to pressure opp cb or drop off depending on the instruction.Btw Ronaldo is atrocious defensively, all team that face Real, always attack his side.There is a time when having a no 10 that is good defensively is important. Playing against Juventus is a very good example. Oscar was brilliant last year in term of "shutting down" Pirlo. I really doubt mata can do the job as good as oscar. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lover Lover 18 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 lol, how many #9 have defensive responsibilities? Mandzukic & Lewandoski do their defensive duties fairly well especially the former kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 @ Cris being helpful defensively. That's one of the funniest things I've ever read in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 He sure knows how to hit the ball - in style! yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think him and Hazard can form an excellent duo.Since the match against Shaktar where the only threat were coming when they were working together (in a poor organisation), I always thought with a pre-season and good organisation, they could form a very lethal duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 lol, how many #9 have defensive responsibilities? Ronaldo is actually pretty helpful defensively. If we want our #10 to split his attention 50/50 then we might as well play 433. Just like I don't want my striker being too busy to score, I don't want my #10 being focused on playing defense. Mata controlled the game like crazy when he came on.I'm not comparing mata's vision to oscar. Mata is a master in that area. What I'm saying is that if you play football, you will understand that putting your energy doing defensive work can make your attacking capabilities reduce. And now in football even attackers are required to put in some defensive work, manzuckic replacing gomez because of this was a perfect example.Brazil won't be able to defeat spain if BOTH the striker and AM decide to forget defensive duties and relax when their not in possesion.I remember a lot of people complaining how mancity bullied us through th middle and it was looking like a 3 vs 2 midfield. Well most times against bigger teams with good midfield,( juve, mancity) a very hard working person in the center might prevent us from conceding more goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob345 1 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 good match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob345 1 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 but he must go on and do that in BPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Why must we criticise players. Oscar did not look fit enough for me but almost had 2 goals mata had a better understanding with the players because he played No. 10 last season hence better possession. Let's not forget mourinho doesn't exactly play possession football so i still think oscar is being prepared as the no. 10 when we want to be direct which suits mourinho's style and mata the no. 10 when we want a more possession based game. Its good to have such great players capable of playing no. 10 I like both very much. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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