Madmax 9,219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yes, Danny 'Doesn't Pass' Sturridge, the one who grabbed an assist that robbed us of 2 points. Badboy, Stats, Las7 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 A footballer disnae aye need tae be warld class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Is that the best you can come up with?Sturridge is a player I've liked for a long time, was delighted when he signed for us. Don't see anything wrong with me checking up on his progress - or am I not allowed to do that because he's an ex-player? It's the constant bitching and moaning, and living in the past that I just find perplexing - fitting considering the club he's joinedYou take the view that we made a mistake selling him yet you keep reliving it. You keep bringing it up and the same people make the same stupid, myopic points about the Torres transfer. We got into a situation that unfortunately meant we probably had to sell Sturridge from an economic point of view.But he's a Liverpool player so Fuck Him He's Dead (FHHD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 forget him dude... its the same thing with him over and over again. if danny scores, he is probably the first one on this thread and just waiting/daring for any1 to post anything.and if by any chance, some poor sap does say "danny played well, i think we made a mistake selling him", then he gets his big guns out " how long are we going to moan for him" " we got 12 mil, the club did awesome business" bla bla blah... he is also the guy who called rambo "an idiot" and who is probably the happiest person in the world whenever lamps has a bad game .my advice - let him be.Hey chum, I understand we've had our little disagreements in the past but there's no reason for you to be like that. Let bygones be bygones and I'll buy you a drink the next time you come to the Bridge....you just tell me where and when, okay. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just going to say this: a footballer doesn't always need to be world class to play for Chelsea.That is all. BleedsBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Hey chum, I understand we've had our little disagreements in the past but there's no reason for you to be like that. Let bygones be bygones and I'll buy you a drink the next time you come to the Bridge....you just tell me where and when, okay. i m trying to find institutes for mbas in and around london... i will be there for the next season or defo for the next to next one. i ll take u up for your word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The real question about Sturridge is how come he plays three times better in LIverpool that he played here. Yes, awful position. He played in same awful position at Liverpool, and still managed to score and assist. He played in the same awful position here, and still managed to score and assist. And than he stoped, got frustrated because there was no way for him to fight for and win striker position with all mighty Torres there. Maybe he confused him for Cavani, who knows. I wrote a post here long ago where I compared him with Thiery Henry and RVP from Arsenal ( can't find it). I wouldn't ever do that if I hadn't believed how good Sturridge was. And that is why I was frustrated with him - he didn't play his best football here claiming he was not happy with position. Nevermind that playing on the wing makes young skilful striker better all around player and improves his movement around the box. After all, both RVP and Henry started that way and it didn't harm him, because they had skill. Like Sturridge. He is good at Liverpool, as I assumed he would be. Liverpoll style of play can make any decent striker into a profilic goal scorer nevermind someone skilful like Sturridge. LIverpool is,( with Man Utd), by far the best place for strikers. Like Owen, Fowler and even Torres know .They play fast, with long and trough balls, they move ball quickly which leaves much time for the front three to act and make something before opposite defenders manage to block them properly. All they needed after Alonso departure was a midfilder able to provide these balls on regular bases, and they got him in Coutinho. With his services and LIverpool style of play, Sturridge and Suares will work great. It's no - branier. On the other hand in Chelsea - our style is slower. We usualy play from defender to DM/CM than to attacking mid in Hazard to Mata and than to a striker- Ba. Our circulation of ball is slower and before top three get it, opposite defenders manage to position themselves pretty good, which leaves top three with less space for maneuver. Whether you liked it or not, Sturridge has more space in Liverpool than any our future striker will have here. Last but not the least, it's not just board, Sturridge didn't feel like fight for his striker position even though, with only Torres as his competition, he only needed time this season. And yes, Liverpool style of play suits him much more than ours. Yes, there is ex players thread for a reason, but if we continue discuss about Sturridge after every goal he scores, this thread will become more active than any thread about our current players soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 There is an ex player thread for a reason. It is annoying that when people pay compliments to him there are people who keep saying the same thing as you about being moaning. The thread is here for a reason and if people have a problem let it be as this is a Sturridge thread. Same way Mikel gets slaughtered on his thread if he has a bad game, why not talk about Sturridge when he plays well?Yes, the thread is here for a reason and everybody has the right to voice his opinion, that's a given. I got a bit annoyed as it seems as there are some people, who I guess have some extra Sturridge love and everytime he does well they are trying to stick it to the other Chelsea fans and in particular to those who never liked Danny and in the same time when he plays like his usual uneffectual selfish self they stay quiet. It's not that I think Sturridge is not talented I just think there was no way for him to get accommodated to our attacking regime and especially with more top european strikers appearing to come our way. So in the end of the day it doesn't matter (to me at least) how many goals he has scored for Liverpool and how many good games he's had with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The real question about Sturridge is how come he plays three times better in LIverpool that he played here. Yes, awful position. He played in same awful position at Liverpool, and still managed to score and assist. He played in the same awful position here, and still managed to score and assist. And than he stoped, got frustrated because there was no way for him to fight for and win striker position with all mighty Torres there. Maybe he confused him for Cavani, who knows. I wrote a post here long ago where I compared him with Thiery Henry and RVP from Arsenal ( can't find it). I wouldn't ever do that if I hadn't believed how good Sturridge was. And that is why I was frustrated with him - he didn't play his best football here claiming he was not happy with position. Nevermind that playing on the wing makes young skilful striker better all around player and improves his movement around the box. After all, both RVP and Henry started that way and it didn't harm him, because they had skill. Like Sturridge. He is good at Liverpool, as I assumed he would be. Liverpoll style of play can make any decent striker into a profilic goal scorer nevermind someone skilful like Sturridge. LIverpool is,( with Man Utd), by far the best place for strikers. Like Owen, Fowler and even Torres know .They play fast, with long and trough balls, they move ball quickly which leaves much time for the front three to act and make something before opposite defenders manage to block them properly. All they needed after Alonso departure was a midfilder able to provide these balls on regular bases, and they got him in Coutinho. With his services and LIverpool style of play, Sturridge and Suares will work great. It's no - branier. On the other hand in Chelsea - our style is slower. We usualy play from defender to DM/CM than to attacking mid in Hazard to Mata and than to a striker- Ba. Our circulation of ball is slower and before top three get it, opposite defenders manage to position themselves pretty good, which leaves top three with less space for maneuver. Whether you liked it or not, Sturridge has more space in Liverpool than any our future striker will have here. Last but not the least, it's not just board, Sturridge didn't feel like fight for his striker position even though, with only Torres as his competition, he only needed time this season. And yes, Liverpool style of play suits him much more than ours. Yes, there is ex players thread for a reason, but if we continue discuss about Sturridge after every goal he scores, this thread will become more active than any thread about our current players soon enough.if this is true there is even more reason to comment about him... because it just means he would be scoring more than any other player we have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The reaction in this thread will simmer down once Lukaku get's a legit chance. The constant complaints every time he scores a goal is justified imo since Danny had to make way for an incompetent striker in Torres. Sturridge is better in every aspect of the game compared to Fernando and it's frustrating as hell knowing that Liverpool paid 12m for Danny who will only improve over time. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Until we actually have a striker who is banging goals in at a similar rate(under 130 minutes per goal) this thread will get bumped. It's fairly natural for me and others to be livid with our board - for crippling our club for the season by basically giving Floppes free reign while marginalizing better players like Sturridge and Lukaku. Sturridge was fit for 14 matches before our Juve clash, yet he only started one match instead of Floppes, who banned due to his red card against United. I don't think it's RdM's call to start Floppes so much and to have ONLY two strikers in the squad while our rivals had at least 3 players who were better than Floppes for their forward position. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 if this is true there is even more reason to comment about him... because it just means he would be scoring more than any other player we have...Yes, he will, but in Liverpool fc. There is no guarantee he would do the same here. Liverpool style of play suits him much more than ours, and is and was much more different than ours. He is not that suitable for link up plays we are trying to achieve and brought Mazascar for. He needs lots of space, he didn't have it at Chelsea. He is much better in concentrating on goal only, rather than play in general. Our future striker will not have that luxury, that's why most of us want Cavany type rather than Falcao type.Given that striker who scores every game, doesn't even have to pass, selling him was a mistake, but the mistake he himself made us to make by refusing to play good on wing temporary and slowly fight for striker position with Torres. Had he persisted, he would have won that position by January. different level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 He is much better in concentrating on goal only, rather than play in general. Our future striker will not have that luxury, that's why most of us want Cavany type rather than Falcao type. At least watch some of his matches before making these type of comments, he provides far more to Liverpool than just goals. As was the case while he was here, he beats defenders, his passing is actually very good(averaging 2 key passes per match at Pool), he holds the ball up quite well and brings others into play and his movement and anticipation is actually what you'd expect for a striker. There is a reason why he is able to position himself well for tap ins and easy goals his movement is miles better than Poorres for example, who has no clue what he is doing when he enters the box and usually runs away from the goal rather than trying to get into position for an easy chance. Rambo, The Skipper and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 At least watch some of his matches before making these type of comments, he provides far more to Liverpool than just goals. As was the case while he was here, he beats defenders, his passing is actually very good(averaging 2 key passes per match at Pool), he holds the ball up quite well and brings others into play and his movement and anticipation is actually what you'd expect for a striker. There is a reason why he is able to position himself well for tap ins and easy goals his movement is miles better than Poorres for example, who has no clue what he is doing when he enters the box and usually runs away from the goal rather than trying to get into position for an easy chance. Then answer me, if he was such great why RDM relegated him to the bench after Leicester game in FA cup and didn't even give him oportunity to start in CL just like he didn't give oportunity to Torres. Yes I know he plays great for Liverpool, but I'm talking about Sturridge I watched at Chelsea. There were some great driblings, beating defenders, passes but also lots shoots from imposible angles, not seeing Mata and Ramirez when needed to pass, lots goal attempts instead of simple passes that left lots of fans even RDM and some players frustrated with his play. If you need reminisence, just read trough matches he played for us. Sturridge in Liverpool is different from Sturridge in Chelsea, otherways he would have never been sold. That is the point, Liverpool suits him more than we did. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,504 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Then answer me, if he was such great why RDM relegated him to the bench after Leicester game in FA cup and didn't even give him oportunity to start in CL just like he didn't give oportunity to Torres. Yes I know he plays great for Liverpool, but I'm talking about Sturridge I watched at Chelsea. There were some great driblings, beating defenders, passes but also lots shoots from imposible angles, not seeing Mata and Ramirez when needed to pass, lots goal attempts instead of simple passes that left lots of fans even RDM and some players frustrated with his play. If you need reminisence, just read trough matches he played for us. Sturridge in Liverpool is different from Sturridge in Chelsea, otherways he would have never been sold. That is the point, Liverpool suits him more than we did. Deal with it.Liverpool does suit Sturridge better....but their coach has also put faith into Sturridge.He's a much more confident player at Liverpool because he's playing regularly and he knows he's got the coaches full support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Liverpool does suit Sturridge better....but their coach has also put faith into Sturridge.He's a much more confident player at Liverpool because he's playing regularly and he knows he's got the coaches full support.Yes, but what made RDM not having faith in him ? Care to answer? It's not like he had faith in Torres back then. Better question, what made AVB to have faith in Sturridge, that RDM didn't see? What was the difference? It certainly was not position he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 How is he different - well he is playing pretty constantly when not injured, that pretty much confirms what most expected. When given a run up top whether it's Pool; Bolton or us he has pretty much scored a goal on average in under 160 minutes on the field. Even playing out of position for us under AVB he had the most game changing goals from open play last season. Simply put you didn't see this side of him because he only played two matches up top for us for 6 months and during those two matches he wanted to do too much - which is natural because he was constantly having to prove himself here. There is more to Sturridge not starting here, than simply RdM not ratting him - RdM the same person who made a long video over viewing how Poorres was failing here and the type of goals he used to score for Looserpool. It was a decision which was above RdM's head most likely I doubt any manager would have been happy with two strikers to start the season off with, especially when you know you would playing around 70 matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I am not really surprised by Danny's progress at Liverpool so far.This was a player who just needed some managerial backing and opportunities to really get going and unfortunately that wasn't provided at Chelsea.Liverpool are really lucky to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You can't blame the board for Sturridge's departure. If anything the board probably deserve some praise. It's the managers that never rated him and gave him a chance. The board actually did an exceptional job getting 12M for a guy with only 6 months left on his contract because there was no way he was going to sign an extension if we hadn't sold him and he would have left for free! Slam Dunk and different level 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yes, he will, but in Liverpool fc. There is no guarantee he would do the same here. Liverpool style of play suits him much more than ours, and is and was much more different than ours. He is not that suitable for link up plays we are trying to achieve and brought Mazascar for. He needs lots of space, he didn't have it at Chelsea. He is much better in concentrating on goal only, rather than play in general. Our future striker will not have that luxury, that's why most of us want Cavany type rather than Falcao type.Given that striker who scores every game, doesn't even have to pass, selling him was a mistake, but the mistake he himself made us to make by refusing to play good on wing temporary and slowly fight for striker position with Torres. Had he persisted, he would have won that position by January.sturridge was 14 games on the bench before torres got a red against united. do u actually think he had got a fair chance. do u remember the game against WBA. he started on the wing. mata had not started so we were piss poor. torres went off, mata came in and danny went as a striker. in the next 20 mins danny made more chances for himself than torres has made this whole season just thru his runs. he played just the way a striker does. we might have brought MAZACAR for a nice build up play but dont forget that the finisher is still as important if not more important than the build up play. cant u see this is exactly what is wrong with barca. they have all the players to CREATE a play and none of them to FINISH it. sturridge is a proper striker. he is selfish, he can go past players, he can shoot from 30 yards out and when u compare it to our current pool of players, he would have been a perfect fit simply because he gives us that extra dimension upfront.also honestly i cant say that our style of play does not suit danny because we dint give him a chance to prove/disprove that. The Skipper, Las7 and Manuf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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