🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Daniel Sturridge

[Rambo 1,729]

No point discussing this now. The board had no faith in him from the start of the season and I don't blame Sturridge for resenting us for not giving him a proper chance up front. I'm confident Ba will help take the starting spot away from the #9 and hopefully make that number his own..literally.

[Danelka 209]

You're obviousley pretty dumb asking those questions.

1) Give me ONE reason to why Torres should be given 10 times the playtime Danny's had? Give me ONE reason as to why Torres has been played upfront and Danny hasnt.

2) Because we saw Danny upfront for one game, even if he missed a sitter or two, he created space, he moved better, he played like a striker and we looked more dangerous. Considering that ONE GAME (and Danny played that after he was injured and hadnt really played much) - he looked FIVE TIMES better than Torres.

How can you even claim that Im wrong? You're just using a stuipid arguement-technique...

Oh there we go again, you instulting and calling me dumb when you can't even interpret my post properly.. Or you changed the topic because you can't counter-argue it?

1+2. Whether Torres should get or not get 10 times the playtime over Sturridge was really NOT the point of my post. Please do show me the point where implied any of that. I didn't, and don't understand, just as you, that why was Torres played over Sturridge.

My actual point was, you stated your thoughts, and opinions as facts, and you used that to prove your point, and attacked everyone else without anything to base your facts on.

Also, why is my argument-technique stupid? It's stupid for me that I suppose that Danny had attitude problems, but you can suppose that it was because of the board? Why?

[jamal.wright 5]

I hate the name calling but some of you guys deserve it, this guy Fernando Torres said he didn't care if we won or lose because he wasn't playing last year. Danny has been a very good servant for Chelsea, celebrated the CL win like he played 90 minutes and talked about how it was a team win even though he didn't play. We treated Danny like crap benched him showed no faith in him so how now he left and said something about his new clubs and people get butt hurt. ninjas please!! why should Danny show any loyalty towards chelsea when he never received any from coaches and fans. we booed him and as a matter of fact one of his last game playing for Chelsea the game vs wes brom he tried throwing his shirt to the stands but nobody wanted the shirt. As a fan the way we did some dealings this year has left a bad taste in my mouth. the sacking of RDM(even though wasnt a huge fan but the man was a club legend deserved more respect) the way some of our fans are talking about lampard another club legend. The catering to that transvestite Fernando, selling Danny sturrige and hiring rafa......disgusting.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

You're obviousley pretty dumb asking those questions.

1) Give me ONE reason to why Torres should be given 10 times the playtime Danny's had? Give me ONE reason as to why Torres has been played upfront and Danny hasnt.

2) Because we saw Danny upfront for one game, even if he missed a sitter or two, he created space, he moved better, he played like a striker and we looked more dangerous. Considering that ONE GAME (and Danny played that after he was injured and hadnt really played much) - he looked FIVE TIMES better than Torres.

How can you even claim that Im wrong? You're just using a stuipid arguement-technique...

Why are you insulting people? They are not insulting you in any way. The fact they disagree with you isn't a reason - so grow up and learn to argument. Saying Danny looked FIVE TIMES better than Torres just shows you're very immature and not really capable of having a proper discussion on forums - and then you have the nerve to ask every single doubter of his for proofs, facts. Look buddy, noone is trying to win you over. You've got very cocky after your CL win prediction, time to get over it. Sooner or later your bubble will burst and you'll realize you don't have supernatural powers.

PS. Insulting zolayes (or any other TC member in fact) is never a good idea, have some respect.

About Sturridge... There must be a reason why Sturridge wasn't picked over Torres. Now don't give me that old bullshit like this team is based around Torres and that Rafa was brought in to make him better. Get real, it's even more mad of a conspiracy than Sturridge blasting Chelsea at every angle. To be fair, Sturridge was a selfish striker with a diva attitude and he would try to take on impossible shots even when we were losing. Wish him all the best in Liverpool and soon he will prove the doubters wrong, remains to be seen which doubters.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Oh there we go again, you instulting and calling me dumb when you can't even interpret my post properly.. Or you changed the topic because you can't counter-argue it?

1+2. Whether Torres should get or not get 10 times the playtime over Sturridge was really NOT the point of my post. Please do show me the point where implied any of that. I didn't, and don't understand, just as you, that why was Torres played over Sturridge.

My actual point was, you stated your thoughts, and opinions as facts, and you used that to prove your point, and attacked everyone else without anything to base your facts on.

Also, why is my argument-technique stupid? It's stupid for me that I suppose that Danny had attitude problems, but you can suppose that it was because of the board? Why?

Then tell me, am I wrong in what I claimed?

If so, how am I wrong and why?

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Why are you insulting people? They are not insulting you in any way. The fact they disagree with you isn't a reason - so grow up and learn to argument. Saying Danny looked FIVE TIMES better than Torres just shows you're very immature and not really capable of having a proper discussion on forums - and then you have the nerve to ask every single doubter of his for proofs, facts. Look buddy, noone is trying to win you over. You've got very cocky after your CL win prediction, time to get over it. Sooner or later your bubble will burst and you'll realize you don't have supernatural powers.

PS. Insulting zolayes (or any other TC member in fact) is never a good idea, have some respect.

About Sturridge... There must be a reason why Sturridge wasn't picked over Torres. Now don't give me that old bullshit like this team is based around Torres and that Rafa was brought in to make him better. Get real, it's even more mad of a conspiracy than Sturridge blasting Chelsea at every angle. To be fair, Sturridge was a selfish striker with a diva attitude and he would try to take on impossible shots even when we were losing. Wish him all the best in Liverpool and soon he will prove the doubters wrong, remains to be seen which doubters.

What are the facts that he was selfish and had a diva attitude?

Impossible shots? At least he was trying? Would you say the same about Lampard? You are critisizing him for trying to score when we are losing?

Am I the only one who can see what is wrong with you and that arguement?

[The only place to be 11,313]

What are the facts that he was selfish and had a diva attitude?

Impossible shots? At least he was trying? Would you say the same about Lampard? You are critisizing him for trying to score when we are losing?

Am I the only one who can see what is wrong with you and that arguement?

You strike me as the type of person who would rather Sturridge scored a hat-trick against us and we lost to prove you were right, then us actually succeed without him.

Danny was given chances but his attitude wasn't right in training. Now you can choose to believe me or not, but there's a very good reason why AVB didn't go after him for Spurs. There's a reason why Liverpool were the only club interested. Circumstances might not have been ideal at Chelsea but 90% of a footballer's success comes from how they react to circumstances.

People seem to want to re-write history, but he got a reputation as a selfish player for a reason. It became a joke by the end of it and the groans he elicited in the ground weren't imagined.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

You strike me as the type of person who would rather Sturridge scored a hat-trick against us and we lost to prove you were right, then us actually succeed without him.

Danny was given chances but his attitude wasn't right in training. Now you can choose to believe me or not, but there's a very good reason why AVB didn't go after him for Spurs. There's a reason why Liverpool were the only club interested. Circumstances might not have been ideal at Chelsea but 90% of a footballer's success comes from how they react to circumstances.

People seem to want to re-write history, but he got a reputation as a selfish player for a reason. It became a joke by the end of it and the groans he elicited in the ground weren't imagined.

You dont understand. I would rather have a selfish type with a semi-bad attitude (Im still not convinced Danny was that guy though) than someone who is utter useless.

[The only place to be 11,313]

You dont understand. I would rather have a selfish type with a semi-bad attitude (Im still not convinced Danny was that guy though) than someone who is utter useless.

I'd rather neither.

We replace Sturridge with Ba up-front and Moses on the wing. I'm happier with both of them instead of him. The team looks better with both of them.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

I'd rather neither.

We replace Sturridge with Ba up-front and Moses on the wing. I'm happier with both of them instead of him. The team looks better with both of them.

Eh... The useless guy is still in the team tho And I am convinced the team would look alot better with Ba+Danny.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

What are the facts that he was selfish and had a diva attitude?

Impossible shots? At least he was trying? Would you say the same about Lampard? You are critisizing him for trying to score when we are losing?

Am I the only one who can see what is wrong with you and that arguement?

Again with you and your facts.. look up any game where he played for us.. he tried to win the Puskas award every time. Sometimes trying is not enough, isn't Torres trying? And taking on IMPOSSBILE shots when losing is very very selfish, if failing making you look like a total egoistic gloryhunter, which he has in my eyes. Even, lol, you can't deny that it's frustrating to see Luiz etc try from long way out hitting Sputniks on the way.

Edit: I love the way you ignored my first part of the post directed to you.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Eh... The useless guy is still in the team tho And I am convinced the team would look alot better with Ba+Danny.

Torres won't play as much now, and that might make him better. Personally I don't care that Sturridge left in the slightest. He became a bit of a joke to be honest, and then all of a sudden took on magical properties whilst he was out of the team.

The truth is that he's a decent young player with bags of talent but a reputation as a selfish player. That's why the only club who came in for him was Liverpool.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Again with you and your facts.. look up any game where he played for us.. he tried to win the Puskas award every time. Sometimes trying is not enough, isn't Torres trying? And taking on IMPOSSBILE shots when losing is very very selfish, if failing making you look like a total egoistic gloryhunter, which he has in my eyes. Even, lol, you can't deny that it's frustrating to see Luiz etc try from long way out hitting Sputniks on the way.

Edit: I love the way you ignored my first part of the post directed to you.

How are you gonna succeed if you dont try?

[SinineUltra 1,170]

How are you gonna succeed if you dont try?

Guess he did it wrong bcs he didnt succeed.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Guess he did it wrong bcs he didnt succeed.

How are you gonna succed if you arent allowed to play though?

[SinineUltra 1,170]

How are you gonna succed if you arent allowed to play though?

I guess he did enough to deter managers ( there have been a few) from constantly picking him. We don't know the sole reason(s) behind this and saying it's all Torres' fault is very biased. Let's just see how he does in Liverpool, his start against non-league side was impressive though.

[Tomo 21,751]

We will have to trust the club, say what you like about the board but when was the last time we fucked up selling a player or letting go a young player?

Has a player come back to haunt us in the same way (or even close to) the way Mata has Madrid or Pique has United, a couple of obvious examples. The worse that has happened is a couple have scored against us and that happens to every club anyway.

Weren't we suppose to regret selling Borini and Sinclair aswell? 2 and 4 years on respectively, nothing has happened that has made me think shit what have we done.

If there is one thing our board are top notch at its selling players.

[ja1 1,166]

You strike me as the type of person who would rather Sturridge scored a hat-trick against us and we lost to prove you were right, then us actually succeed without him.

Danny was given chances but his attitude wasn't right in training. Now you can choose to believe me or not, but there's a very good reason why AVB didn't go after him for Spurs. There's a reason why Liverpool were the only club interested. Circumstances might not have been ideal at Chelsea but 90% of a footballer's success comes from how they react to circumstances.

People seem to want to re-write history, but he got a reputation as a selfish player for a reason. It became a joke by the end of it and the groans he elicited in the ground weren't imagined.

Where exactly did Sturridge show a poor attitude in training? And I'm pretty sure the reason AVB didn't go for him was because he didn't need him.

[ja1 1,166]

I'd rather neither.

We replace Sturridge with Ba up-front and Moses on the wing. I'm happier with both of them instead of him. The team looks better with both of them.

Does it not speak volumes we need two players to replace one? Sturridge is also better at RW than Moses, and while Ba is a better CF (not massively - until this summer their careers had been pretty much identical since being regular starters in the PL) I'd much rather him AND Ba then Ba and Torres

[The only place to be 11,313]

Where exactly did Sturridge show a poor attitude in training?

Cobham.

Does it not speak volumes we need two players to replace one? Sturridge is also better at RW than Moses, and while Ba is a better CF (not massively - until this summer their careers had been pretty much identical since being regular starters in the PL) I'd much rather him AND Ba then Ba and Torres

I disagree that he's better than Moses. Moses passes for a start.