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didierforever

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Mata won't start next season with bastian coming in.

It's common knowledge on even redcafe that both herrara and mata cannot start at the same time, and I'm guessin the former will be the starter as one of the cms on the team.

Also, ashley young was one of lvg best players last season, even though he sucks in general

lvg is a fan of 4-3-3. if he reverts back to it (which seems more and more likely considering the players they have), i see these being their main 11.

depay-rooney-mata

ADM-carrick-bastian

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depay-rooney-ADM

herrera-carrick-bastian

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depay-rooney-mata

herrera-carrick-bastian

a team definitely to be reckoned as a PL contender. if they get a quality CB (ramos/otamendi), they will be right up there.

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This would've been a great signing 3 years ago. He's well past his peak now & is incredibly injury prone. Deco was a better signing. United are NOT title contenders.I'm not sure if they're even better than Liverpool.

Schweinsteiger has always been overrated but people are acting like they've just signed Lothar Mattaus in his prime, this is akin to them signing Falcao last season. An aging & wilting World Class talent on his last legs.

Only Arsenal & City will trouble us next season.

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you do know we parked the bus at SB and allowed Man U to have all the possession, that is not controlling a game LOL.

and as for Rooney he is better suited to playing deeper, but as a striker he is much less of threat, only 4 of his goals last season came from playing as a striker.

and to compare Man U with us in 13/14 is laughable, we came close that year solely down to playing defensive football, Man U wont play the same so that comparison makes no sense

solely defensive football? so we were playing defensive football when we lost to palace, villa, sunderland, drew at home to norwich. out of 38 games, we must have played 5-6 games relying on our defense (city home and away, pool away, arsenal away, united away). maybe couple others AT MAX. so it does make A LOT OF SENSE, specially when your argument was that united need a world class striker or would find it difficult "to break down teams".

how many games did rooney play as a striker for u to consider that? please give that number too.

we did park the bus, but herrera's quality on the ball was evident in that match. not just my opinion though http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13774-bastian-schweinsteiger/?p=1115895.

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This would've been a great signing 3 years ago. He's well past his peak now & is incredibly injury prone. Deco was a better signing. United are NOT title contenders.I'm not sure if they're even better than Liverpool.

Only Arsenal & City will trouble us next season.

I agree, if Man U sign a world class striker then they would become a serious threat.

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didierforever

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dont have any idea how you came to that conclusion

since you are so sure of exactly whats gonna happen and even spelled out the exact way its gonna happen, i dont see much of a point.

most of the people on here think its a fantastic buy. which would improve united as a team. except for u, and "oscar" (the poster not the player before people start jumping down my throat).
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solely defensive football? so we were playing defensive football when we lost to palace, villa, sunderland, drew at home to norwich. out of 38 games, we must have played 5-6 games relying on our defense (city home and away, pool away, arsenal away, united away). maybe couple others AT MAX. so it does make A LOT OF SENSE, specially when the other posters' argument was that united need a world class striker or would find it difficult "to break down teams".

how many games did rooney play as a striker for u to consider that? please give that number too.

we did park the bus, but herrera's quality on the ball was evident in that match. not just my opinion though http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13774-bastian-schweinsteiger/?p=1115895. also since you were quoting "redcafe" in one of the previous post, go and read what they think of herrera controlling the mid.

yes we came close in 13/14 because of how we defended, whether it was playing defensive against the top teams and playing on the counter, or defending a lead, our defence was the key.

Rooney scored 4 goals in 14 games as a striker, and he isnt getting any better.

and what are you talkiing about 'quoting redcafe'???

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yes we came close in 13/14 because of how we defended, whether it was playing defensive against the top teams and playing on the counter, or defending a lead, our defence was the key.

Rooney scored 4 goals in 14 games as a striker, and he isnt getting any better.

and what are you talkiing about 'quoting redcafe'???

rooney scored 4 goals, 3 assists playing as a striker in 14 games with no consistency and probably not even in back to back matches considering how much shuffling united went thru. try that with any another player and see if you get any better numbers. also, dont strikers work on consistency and a golden run.

you do understand that my post was to give you the similarities between teams having "ball players", "not a world class striker" and "finding it difficult to break down teams". things WILL not be exactly the same. but to not count united as a title contender cos they are playing rooney upfront is suicidal. and honestly except for a couple of people, i think most on here agree that united would be a title challenger next season.

sorry, i got you and "oscar" (the poster, not the player before people start jumping down my throat) confused.

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Pretty funny to crown United title challengers because of this signing yet completely dismiss Arsenal despite them having 3 better injury prone midfielders than Schweinsteiger.

arsenal have been "title challengers" for the past.. let me guess.. 2,3,4 maybe 5 or 6 years. its the dna of the club.

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The point is the Schweini we all loved was an energetic box to box player but that player player has been missing for a couple of seasons now. Van Gaal is going to use him in the 'Carrick Role' and that should worry United fans because he hasn't adjusted well to this position in the last two years.

Not to mention he is coming to a much more physical league as well, a league where he won't get the time off during Christmas that he was so used to in Bundesliga. You talk about the World Cup but I say just look at the previous season where he has been poor. He has had a lot of injuries in the past 2 years and that's not going to help either.

Maybe Van Gaal's knowledge of Schweini will eventually end up with him rotating the German and Carrick throughout the season sort of like how Fergie treated Giggs and Scholes when they were losing their legs. Maybe the enthusiasm for the new challenge will be good for him but I don't think he will be 'the one' who can take United a step above.

If this signing means United won't be buying Schneiderlin then they've made a huge mistake. Schnederlin at the moment is at the very least superior to Schweini.

To sum it up, this would have been a dream move a few years ago but not now. Bayern would have never sold him if he was still that all-around beast.

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the excuses people are putting in is just laughable.

bastian is a world class player. period.

he might have had some injuries for the last 2 seasons but doubting "how good he can be in prem" is a joke. the guy is a beast. this is a brilliant short term signing for united.

Excuses? Most of the reasons are valid, he is at a similar stage of his career Deco was when he signed for us and I personally think his United career will run a similar route, he will turn it on some games but as a regular top week in week out player i think he's done.

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they also said the same about ballack when he moved to chelsea at 30 or makelele.

and i see bastian more as a ballack mode than deco mode.

Ballack was brilliant at the second half of 07/08 and at the run in to the double but overall he was a shadow of prime Ballack at Bayern.

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herrera can very well control a game. mata might not be as good as he was with us in 11-13, but this is the exact signing which can make him a huge threat again.

i have been hearing this since 2010, yet every year rooney gets the goals and assists. in the last 4 season (11-15) he has got 83 goals, playing as a CAM, striker, midfielder and what not.

He only has played in midfield at times last season, a bit like Bastian I think Rooney us finished as a consistent top level player but can still turn it on some times, I actually think a top class striker is a huge priority for United.

Re his goals, Lamps got 54 goals in his last four seasons at Chelsea, that would suggest he was still in or around his prime, but we all know he wasn't

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