SeB 1,281 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ben Arfa history:Had a rift with Benzema at Lyon...Then had a bust-up with Squillaci..which led to him forcing a move to Marseille.Went to Marseille, had a bust-up with Cissé...Cisse went to Sunderland on-loan.Then had a bust-up with M'bami whilst warming up for a UCL game against Liverpool...Then he announced that his relationship with Deschamps was beyond repair...didn't train with Marseille for a number of weeks..Eventually forced through a loan move to Newcastle.Ben Arfa has a massive ego. His relationship with fellow players can turn sour very quickly....that's something we should be trying to avoid at Chelsea.You can now add the rift with Blanc and Nasri.This moron got substitued around the hour of play, he said to Blanc he didn't understand his substitution because many were even more shite than him. Nasri started to react to that considering how awful he was. (as goes the saying in french: who feels snotty blows his nose)And so then Ben Arfa asked Blanc to come back home according to L'EquipeDiarra (as the vice-captain, one of our best players of the tournament à la Heskey for England in 2010, nobody would have expected him to be one of the "satisfactions") started to reproach things to his team mates, Nasri asked him to speak to him a better way.I want to insult those twats more than ever, they're an absolute shame. And you know what ? I was already fed up with those who asked Blanc to play the "1987 generation" (Nasri, Benzema, Ben Arfa, Menez), I want to punch in the face the Nasri and Ben Arfa fanboys (because there are some, pretending medias are harsh with them etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You can now add the rift with Blanc and Nasri.This moron got substitued around the hour of play, he said to Blanc he didn't understand his substitution because many were even more shite than him. Nasri started to react to that considering how awful he was.And so then Ben Arfa asked Blanc to come back home.Diarra (as the vice-captain, one of our best players of the tournament à la Heskey for England in 2010, nobody would have expected him to be one of the "satisfactions") started to reproach things to his team mates, Nasri asked him to speak to him a better way.I want to insult those twats more than ever, they're an absolute shame. And you know what ? I was already fed up with those who asked Blanc to play the "1987 generation" (Nasri, Benzema, Ben Arfa, Menez), I want to punch in the face the Nasri and Ben Arfa fanboys (because there are some, pretending medias are harsh with them etc...)Nasri is a terrible person and a terrible player. I hate him so much. I hate it when Benzema is in a good attacking position and Nasri will just dribble the ball and lose it to a CB. I think that is why Benzema has been dropping deep, because he surrounded by ball wankers that would rather dribble into a CB than pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 At Newcastle he doesn't have any bust ups, he even insists he's grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 He seems like he's a bit of a dick, but lots of players are and it also doesn't mean they can't mature. Look at someone like Anelka who kept making a nuisance of himself everywhere he went.He was sold 8 times in 11 years. Even when he came to Chelsea, when he missed the penalty in the CL final, he classlessly blamed Grant somehow. Then, at the World Cup, he attacked the coach and led a mutiny and was subsequently banned from the National Team. In Shanghai, Anelka complained about Tigana's coaching method and was instrumental in driving him out. Now, he's complaining publicly that they hired Batista to coach. In other words, Anelka is hardly a mature, likeable human being, but he still had a very good Chelsea career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 French TV pundits shot them several times, Nasri when he was unable to reverse or orientate the play, when he was higher than Benzema whereas he was CAM...Same with Ben Arfa as well. I already didn't like them for years, I think I hate them more than ever for the last months. Even more than Downing hahaBenzema, like Menez are far from being the worse in those Euros though. I just can't understand how Benzema cannot end the actions in the box, I understand that he likes to ask the ball on the left wing etc... but when there were some crosses and that his presence wasn't required elsewhere than in the box, yet he wasn't there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 French TV pundits shot them several times, Nasri when he was unable to reverse or orientate the play, when he was higher than Benzema whereas he was CAM...Same with Ben Arfa as well. I already didn't like them for years, I think I hate them more than ever for the last months. Even more than Downing hahaBenzema, like Menez are far from being the worse in those Euros though. I just can't understand how Benzema cannot end the actions in the box, I understand that he likes to ask the ball on the left wing etc... but when there were some crosses and that his presence wasn't required elsewhere than in the box, yet he wasn't thereFrance needs a strong leader in the midfield like Zidane or Platini. Someone needs to organise that midfeild because it is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 We have one, Marvin Martin. But at the moment he's a substitute because his stamina is not important enough ; his play is based on constant movement, asking the ball etc... Otherwise in a 4-3-3 with a real DM and a player with an important volume of play he could be interesting. But first of all we have to play players who want the best for the team and not for them. Marseille's Valbuena is hatable, his twin brother who plays with France is completely blameless. I wanted Blanc to play him instead of Valbuena because what was expected from Nasri eventually happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 France needs a strong leader in the midfield like Zidane or Platini. Someone needs to organise that midfeild because it is a mess.Yeah totally agree about the leader bit, they're midfield ain't too bad though. Looked quality in the Euros with the ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 At Newcastle he doesn't have any bust ups, he even insists he's grown up.As a person I don't know, when you're stupid (clues arent rare about it considering his behaviour, quotes when he was in France) you cannot become smarter from the day to the day just afterOn the pitch it has become comical how often the full back asks him to come back defending. And I don't find anything impressive at all in his play, he's a ball wanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 We have one, Marvin Martin. But at the moment he's a substitute because his stamina is not important enough ; his play is based on constant movement, asking the ball etc... Otherwise in a 4-3-3 with a real DM and a player with an important volume of play he could be interesting.But first of all we have to play players who want the best for the team and not for them. Marseille's Valbuena is hatable, his twin brother who plays with France is completely blameless. I wanted Blanc to play him instead of Valbuena because what was expected from Nasri eventually happenedI agree with Marvin Martin, everytime I've watched Sochaux he has impressed and Lille has been very wise buying him. I believe he and Gourcuff could make a formidable partnership (if Yoann ever get back to normal).That second part confused me. Are you saying that Marseille Valbuena is terrible but Les Bleus Valbuena is great; kind of like Podolski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ball wanker. I like that word hahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I agree with Marvin Martin, everytime I've watched Sochaux he has impressed and Lille has been very wise buying him. I believe he and Gourcuff could make a formidable partnership (if Yoann ever get back to normal).That second part confused me. Are you saying that Marseille Valbuena is terrible but Les Bleus Valbuena is great; kind of like Podolski?He dives and moans everytime he's touched or tackled with Marseille. He has good stats though, he's one of the best players for Marseille this season. But sometimes he plays on his own or makes stupid choices with the ballWith France he's impressive because he plays in 2 touches (like Martin), always moving and providing a passing choice with an inteligent move, putting speed in the game by searching the space rather than the pass toward a static player. He's someone who knows that he won't be given infinite opportunities to play with France contrary to Nasri or Ben ArfaOf course he's not world class, but his behaviour is blameless with France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I do not get the hype about Ben Arfa. He scored one good goal and he playing for France in the Euros? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,487 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 there are a lot more better than ben arfa if the hulk deal tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 A though just occured to me: How the hell does this guy get in over Antoine Griezman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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