Eden Hazard

[iseah100 5,612]

Get Reus! 35-40 mil? Put him up front, he can play there. It should be done.

As much as it would be fancy to have Reus, we need target man ala Cavani or Costa in attack. We looked bad vs West Ham and someone like Cavani (and good crosses to him) would do the difference. Reus isnt typical striker and I doubt he would make impact.

Yea, I know. He's my favorite non-Chelsea player so I'd love to see it. I prefer them to get Costa would be good. Not Cavani or Falcao. They're gonna be pushing 30 soon. I'd love for them to get Aleksandr Kokorin from Dynamo. He's Russian. Look him up dude is good.

[Thor 2,442]

By holding the ball up it doesn't just mean standing still and keeping the ball, while waiting for other players to make run then past. Anyone can do that, actually that is like the really basic for a good football player. But it is like Drogba, sort of bully defenders, head the ball down, keep the ball by shielding it...etc and Hazard just isn't suited to that no matter how you look at it. He is more suited to running at other players and get them to challenge him. And fair enough about Aguero but even then City play 2 strikers and same in Argentina team, because usually if he is alone in attack of a 4-3-3 formation it won't work as well. Actually did he ever played alone role? At Madrid he had Forlan, Argen got Higuain, Messi, Tevez, City he had Tevez, Negredo, Dzeko...etc

And Hazard doesn't have strength mate to be honest, usually half harden challenge and he would fall over. Most of the time it is a foul for us so it is all good. But you will just never see him beating a player at shoulder to shoulder challenge, it is just his way of playing and style.

Btw I am not criticizing him in anyway, he is our best player atm by a mile. Just pointing out his weaknesses relating to this argument.

I've never even attempted to be rude on here, but do you even know what you're talking about?

One of Hazard's greatest attributes is his ability to hold the ball. His other being exactly what you're trying to claim as a weakness; ability to hold the ball under a tackle, or physical pressure. Hazard is one of the rare categories of footballers along with the Messi's, Maradona's, Rooney's, etc, in which it is damn near impossible to get the ball off him when he is dribbling in field/sideways. Simply due to his short and bulldog like nature on the field. He gets his feet set hard in the ground, and gives him tremendous ability to either push off or protect the ball brilliantly with his low center of gravity.

Hazard is extremely strong on the ball, simply due to his build, and because he knows how to use it, much like Messi. Impossible to get the ball off of at times.

[iseah100 5,612]

By holding the ball up it doesn't just mean standing still and keeping the ball, while waiting for other players to make run then past. Anyone can do that, actually that is like the really basic for a good football player. But it is like Drogba, sort of bully defenders, head the ball down, keep the ball by shielding it...etc and Hazard just isn't suited to that no matter how you look at it. He is more suited to running at other players and get them to challenge him. And fair enough about Aguero but even then City play 2 strikers and same in Argentina team, because usually if he is alone in attack of a 4-3-3 formation it won't work as well. Actually did he ever played alone role? At Madrid he had Forlan, Argen got Higuain, Messi, Tevez, City he had Tevez, Negredo, Dzeko...etc

And Hazard doesn't have strength mate to be honest, usually half harden challenge and he would fall over. Most of the time it is a foul for us so it is all good. But you will just never see him beating a player at shoulder to shoulder challenge, it is just his way of playing and style.

Btw I am not criticizing him in anyway, he is our best player atm by a mile. Just pointing out his weaknesses relating to this argument.

I've never even attempted to be rude on here, but do you even know what you're talking about?

One of Hazard's greatest attributes is his ability to hold the ball. His other being exactly what you're trying to claim as a weakness; ability to hold the ball under a tackle, or physical pressure. Hazard is one of the rare categories of footballers along with the Messi's, Maradona's, Rooney's, etc, in which it is damn near impossible to get the ball off him when he is dribbling in field/sideways. Simply due to his short and bulldog like nature on the field. He gets his feet set hard in the ground, and gives him tremendous ability to either push off or protect the ball brilliantly with his low center of gravity.

Hazard is extremely strong on the ball, simply due to his build, and because he knows how to use it, much like Messi. Impossible to get the ball off of at times.

Yea, idk what that dude is talking about. Hazard is similar to Messi in several ways, including dribbling with the ball and difficult to dispossess. Thor doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

No offense to any of you but Hazard have as much chance of ever becoming a successful false 9 as Cleverly. 1st of all the basic thing required for a good ST/CF is to HOLD THE BALL UP for team mates, Hazard is fantastic at dribbling and keeping it from opponents when doing so but a half shoulder challenge and he falls over like a fish jumping into water. I am not saying this is a bad thing, it could be a good thing as opponents might sometime get sent off or we get free kicks like we saw with Vidic a few weeks ago.

But these are the reasons why he will never make it as a CF. He is not like Rooney, who is not afraid to go all in tackling or get small bump and roll around. Unless Hazard undergoes Ronaldo transformation and become all muscular in the summer, it just won't happen. Furthermore his finishing is good but no where near the level required at a top club like Chelsea. Remember that Juve game away when he and Mata should have scored 3 between them, ended up with 0.

And lastly O don't think he is suited to that central role, he likes to dribble and this is better suited on the wing. The only exception to this rule is Messi like someone above said, but that is because he is a player that is born once every 100 years. It is not a coincidence that he is already considered the best player in history at the age of like 26-27.

Are you sure the Hazard you talked about is Chelsea's Hazard? Eden nobody-can-dispossession-me Hazard?

Numerous occasions he was surrounded by half of dozen opponents he still made his way out due to his excellent close ball control and immense lower body strength. The latest prime example would be the Sunderland match, second half around 57mins 40secs, go find it out and enjoy.

[TrippingStep 336]

The false 9 only worked really well at Barcelona.

The wingers were making runs behind and between the fullbacks and central defenders (meaning they could'nt push and squeeze without leaving holes for the wingers) and if not were very good being in front of them offering lay-offs option for Messi's run.

Messi with Argentina plays deeper and the opponents have not so many distraction and well-build machine to worry about.

[TrippingStep 336]

By holding the ball up it doesn't just mean standing still and keeping the ball, while waiting for other players to make run then past. Anyone can do that, actually that is like the really basic for a good football player. But it is like Drogba, sort of bully defenders, head the ball down, keep the ball by shielding it...etc and Hazard just isn't suited to that no matter how you look at it. He is more suited to running at other players and get them to challenge him. And fair enough about Aguero but even then City play 2 strikers and same in Argentina team, because usually if he is alone in attack of a 4-3-3 formation it won't work as well. Actually did he ever played alone role? At Madrid he had Forlan, Argen got Higuain, Messi, Tevez, City he had Tevez, Negredo, Dzeko...etc

And Hazard doesn't have strength mate to be honest, usually half harden challenge and he would fall over. Most of the time it is a foul for us so it is all good. But you will just never see him beating a player at shoulder to shoulder challenge, it is just his way of playing and style.

Btw I am not criticizing him in anyway, he is our best player atm by a mile. Just pointing out his weaknesses relating to this argument.

I agree but shoulder to shoulder is more leaning with weight on you if you're much smaller than the opposition. Bale and Ronaldo are taller and the opponents can't lean on them.

[Coop 114]

Hazard stands strong on his feat, at Lille he could stand his place against much bigger dudes, and now at Chelsea he got even stronger.

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[The Skipper 20,593]

Yea, I know. He's my favorite non-Chelsea player so I'd love to see it. I prefer them to get Costa would be good. Not Cavani or Falcao. They're gonna be pushing 30 soon. I'd love for them to get Aleksandr Kokorin from Dynamo. He's Russian. Look him up dude is good.

Cavani is 26.

[Manuf 1,448]

I watched a video of Garrincha and somehow Hazard's style of dribbling and controlling the ball resembles that of the Brazillian wonder. Don't ya think?

[iseah100 5,612]

Yea, I know. He's my favorite non-Chelsea player so I'd love to see it. I prefer them to get Costa would be good. Not Cavani or Falcao. They're gonna be pushing 30 soon. I'd love for them to get Aleksandr Kokorin from Dynamo. He's Russian. Look him up dude is good.

Cavani is 26.

He'll be 27 this month.

[The Skipper 20,593]

He'll be 27 this month.

Hardly pushing 30 is it?

[pWneR 230]

Wow so if a player gets close to 30 he's a dead man walking? Total nonsense, just look at Ibra, he is playing best football of his life and he is 32.

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[iseah100 5,612]

He'll be 27 this month.

Hardly pushing 30 is it?

Forwards, more so than any other position, peak sooner and decline sooner. With the exception of a few stars they just do. That's why Lukaku would be a better choice.

[Barbara 15,149]

I watched a video of Garrincha and somehow Hazard's style of dribbling and controlling the ball resembles that of the Brazillian wonder. Don't ya think?

although that vid doesn't make justice to Garrincha (I've watched a couple of specials about him and he was an incredible dribbler) you do have a point about Eden resembling him.

It's also funny to see how slower football was 50 years ago... it seems to be in slow motion, lol

[Stingray 9,441]

I watched a video of Garrincha and somehow Hazard's style of dribbling and controlling the ball resembles that of the Brazillian wonder. Don't ya think?

although that vid doesn't make justice to Garrincha (I've watched a couple of specials about him and he was an incredible dribbler) you do have a point about Eden resembling him.

It's also funny to see how slower football was 50 years ago... it seems to be in slow motion, lol

Garrincha .... What a player! Also, you are right, when you see stuff from the era of Di Stefano, Garrincha, you do see how much it has evolved. Sometimes I wonder how much the video speeds are indeed slower by the way :-) it could very well be!

[communicate 2,703]

There's only one truly succesful false 9 in Europe and that's Messi. The only reason he makes it work is because he's an absolute phenomenon who excels in the most crucial attributes in football. It's an incredibly difficult role to pull off and it can work against you.

Personally I find it a very overrated concept. Strikers are crucial.

Totti is another one

[sutro 1,026]

@eden_cfc: Lampard: "Eden reminds me of Zola, something Id not seen before. Hes only 23 & his ability on the ball is scaring the life out of people."

[ZOS 580]

Talking of hazard as a false 9 reminds me... I'd love to see how he does at the tip of a diamond 442, something like

striker striker

hazard

MF MF

CDM