Mustafa 885 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Still no official word on his injury ? I'm anxious af out here !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I have always said the one man team term is deceptive. Liverpool's record without Suarez in his 10 game ban was won 7 drew 2, 09/10 every man and his dog said we won't cope without Drogba and we won every game he didn't play. When the 'one man team' is out other's feel a higher sense off responsibility, you felt that with Schurrle and Willian vs PSG and when Drogba was away, Anelka always filled in and brung home the bacon. Mohammed Seif and Coop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted April 11, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 11, 2014 This is getting more silly than Twilight.. Mohammed Seif, Muzchap, kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAF 162 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I saw that interview. They basically asked him to compare Eden to Ibra, to witch he replied that they were very different players but at the same time complimentary. It's a combination of French journalists asking suggestive questions and the British journalists then misinterpreting / mistranslating in order to stir shit up and get clicks.don't worry. he's not going anywhere in the next 2 years atleast imo. Eden2020, Coop, hjperdeath and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 12, 2014 It would be a great shame if our best player doesn't win the Chelsea POTY award. Like I've suspected all along since he joined us, Hazard has become a victim of his own greatness. It seems some people are never satisfied with his contribution. He can't have a "good" game anymore. It's either he has to be amazing or "inconsistent". Also, some of our fans have become fairly paranoid about him leaving the club even though he's shown nothing buy loyalty to us since he joined, even kissing the badge against Liverpool (whatever that means nowadays). Invariably, he gets blamed for such meaningless things such as wearing a PSG jersey and the comments about his wife deciding on his future, though it was clearly said in jest. What most people choose not to realize is that most of it is garbage fueled by the French media who are desperate for a player of his calibre to return to the French league, which he dominated.Now to may main point. Hazard has scored 17 goals this season. More goals than the likes of Ribery, Robben, Neymar, Sanchez, Pedro, Di Maria and just 1 less than Reus and Bale have. All these world-class wingers play in easier leagues too and none of them are the undisputed stars of their team. They share the attacking workload with players of similar quality. Also, these players play in leagues and for teams that make life easier for attacking players to bolster their stats in. The same can't be said about Hazard with Chelsea this season. Hazard has created an incredible (95) chances for his teammates, the highest of any player in Europe's top 5 leagues and he's not even a playmaker like the Ozil's, and Silva's! What's even more astonishing about this statistic is that only 8 of these chances have been converted to assists. This says a lot about our wastefulness in front of goal and our poor quality of strikers, specifically Torres this season. It also represents our poor early season style of play or lack thereof, where we struggling to open up lanes for the attacking players and the passing was slow and ponderous. Of course, the inclusion of Matic has improved our playing style a lot as the guy can dictate play from deep and his passes (mostly vertical) are played with ferocious pace and intent.Consider that Hazard had 20 assists last season, though admittedly, it took him 60+ games to do that. Now if Hazard played for a team that had a striker, he would probably have had 20 assists in 40+ games this season, a number that matches his extraordinary creative outlay. Then maybe the ignorant people who think the "assists" stats tells you all you need to know about a player's creative output would have a rethink. You hear some clueless Liverpool fans say that Luis Suarez is a more creative player than Hazard because he has more assists than him. kellzfresh, Ainsley Harriott, mediator and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 12, 2014 Another thing is that he's a match-winner and a big game player. He was the star against European Champions, Bayern, though he spent majority of the game playing on the counter and chasing shadows. The star against Liverpool and his wonder goal sparked the comeback. Was unplayable in that classic game vs City. Superb against Gala as well. He also won us the points against the likes of Hull, Norwich, Swansea, Schalke and so on. If not for him, we will struggle to make top four. Some say he was "poor" from Aug-November but wasn't the Bayern match in these months? Norwich, Cardiff, Schalke, West Brom all in these months too. Was he also "poor" these games? The reality is that all our attacking players were suffering because we were still struggling to adapt to Jose's ideas and tactics. Remember how the media was already saying Jose had lost it and stuff. Hazard was getting double, tripled teamed by some teams because these teams could see we were struggling to play any sort of cohesive football and shafted our greatest creative threat. Martinez was the first coach to realize this. Also, Bale was anonymous for the first half of the season when he won Spurs POTY and league POTY, but that didn't stop Spurs fans and the PL from unanimously voting for him. Spurs fans could have easily voted for Vertognhen because he was consistent throughout, but they voted for their best player and match winner, why can't we? It will be a great shame if Hazard doesn't get recognition by the fans of this football club after his amazing year. If he doesn't win the award then what chance does he have of winning the big individual awards? It's funny how some people go for Hazard as PL POTY but these same people go for someone else for CFC POTY. Mata won this award back to back after having two inferior (yes) seasons compared to Hazard's this season. The boy for some reason is getting under-appreciated by our fans and it upsets me. I also feel deep down that he will be very upset if he doesn't win Chelsea POTY. Winning this is very important to his development as the face of the CFC brand because of the media attention such an award gets. The kid doesn't even get the attention he deserves yet compared to some of his overrated age-mates (Gotze, Neymar). It will be bizzare if Hazard is in the premier league team of the year and Azpilicueta is not then Azpilicueta wins CFC POTY.Many people on twitter are voting for Azpilicueta. I GET Azpilicueta, I appreciate his work in an unfamiliar position. He is an AMAZING fullback, but he is not our best player this season and more importantly, he is NOT a match-winner, mostly because of the position he plays. I was calling for him to be our RB early in the season when he couldn't even get into the team. I think we would be a top 4 team without Azpi in the team but we won't be one without Hazard. I also don't see what makes a guy like Cahill any more or less deserving than Azpilicueta, tbh. Azpi was not even a starter in the team till November. Hazard should be Chelsea's Player of the year and Azpilicueta should be the Player's player of the year. That is fair and just to both guys.http://www.chelseafc.com/player-of-the-year (Votes) Despiadado.Maleante, Peppi85, Stingray and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You can't get a match-winner if you're conceding goals at the back. Remove Azpi , and everything crumbles. He's fought his way into the team and deserves it. Hazard is the best player in the team by a country mile, but for what Azpilicueta did this season, he deserves it more. The Rising Sun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 You can't get a match-winner if you're conceding goals at the back. Remove Azpi , and everything crumbles. He's fought his way into the team and deserves it. Hazard is the best player in the team by a country mile, but for what Azpilicueta did this season, he deserves it more.That's where I disagree. Without Azpilicueta, we have Ashley Cole. Since when did Ashley become such a bum that he is a unable to do a job when called upon? Just last season, we were calling him the best LB in the world. Has he become a bad player that he can't do a similar job to Azpi, god forbid he gets injured? Saying the defense will "crumble" is a huge exaggeration in line with some people on the Azpi thread calling for him to be this club's captain. Many people are overrating the guy all of a sudden, while underrating our star performer, Eden. And if Hazard is our best player by a country mile and if he's our best player this season then he has to win the award. It's simple logic. But because the likes of Cahill and Azpiliecueta deserve recognition, that's why I want them to win Player's player of the year award, not Player of the year. That belongs to Eden. The award is not for most improved player, fan's favourite, best professional or hardest worker, but best player. Peppi85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 That's where I disagree. Without Azpilicueta, we have Ashley Cole. Since when did Ashley become such a bum that he is a unable to do a job when called upon? Saying the defense will "crumble" is a huge exaggeration in line with some people on the Azpi thread calling for him to be this club's captain. And if Hazard is our best player by a country mile and if he's our best player this season then he has to win the award. It's simple logic. But because the likes of Cahill and Azpiliecueta deserve recognition, that's why I want them to win Player's player of the year award, not Player of the year. That belongs to Eden.Ashley Cole isn't our most solid option. We all know what happened at Newcastle. This is what I don't like. To bring one player up, you bring another player down. Outright stupidity. The offense will crumble without Hazard is also a huge exaggeration. We overcame a 3-1 deficit without him too. But that is not my point as I won't stoop so low.Hazard's had a terrific season, but so has Azpilicueta. He's put his heart and soul onto the pitch when others have failed to. The defense will crumble. You might not realize his tactical duty cause it is quite a funny one to understand. Playing in an un-natural position, with your fellow full-back bombing forward and spending most of the time in the other half, you have to realize what you can do to help the team defensively. That's exactly what he's done. I want him to be the POTY for his sheer hard work in ensuring that other players in the team have a proper foundation to step up on.He's out best players in terms of talent, best player this season maybe not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Many people on twitter are voting for Azpilicueta. I GET Azpilicueta, I appreciate his work in an unfamiliar position. He is an AMAZING fullback, but he is not our best player this season and more importantly, he is NOT a match-winner, mostly because of the position he plays. I was calling for him to be our RB early in the season when he couldn't even get into the team. I think we would be a top 4 team without Azpi in the team but we won't be one without Hazard. I also don't see what makes a guy like Cahill any more or less deserving than Azpilicueta, tbh. Azpi was not even a starter in the team till November. Hazard should be Chelsea's Player of the year and Azpilicueta should be the Player's player of the year. That is fair and just to both guys.http://www.chelseafc.com/player-of-the-year (Votes)And what's wrong with people voting for the player they rightfully deem as our most consistent player all season? consistency trumps moments of brilliance everyday. consistency if by far the hardest thing to achieve in sports especially over the course of a full season and it should be duly rewarded. chelseathebest and hjperdeath 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 That's where I disagree. Without Azpilicueta, we have Ashley Cole. Since when did Ashley become such a bum that he is a unable to do a job when called upon? Just last season, we were calling him the best LB in the world. Has he become a bad player that he can't do a similar job to Azpi, god forbid he gets injured? Saying the defense will "crumble" is a huge exaggeration in line with some people on the Azpi thread calling for him to be this club's captain. Many people are overrating the guy all of a sudden, while underrating our star performer, Eden. And if Hazard is our best player by a country mile and if he's our best player this season then he has to win the award. It's simple logic. But because the likes of Cahill and Azpiliecueta deserve recognition, that's why I want them to win Player's player of the year award, not Player of the year. That belongs to Eden. The award is not for most improved player, fan's favourite, best professional or hardest worker, but best player. Since 2011 when he's been dominated by every decent winger in the league such as Valencia, Walcott, Nani, Aaron freaking lennon et al. he turns into bambi on ice whenever he faces any winger worth his salt the same cannot be said of Azpillicueta who is virtually unbeatable and absolute monster against anyone.Also his attacking contribution is non existent nowadays to make up for his sharp decline as a defender. so no Ashley can no longer do a job, nevermind to the level that azpillicueta has reached this season, on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 And what's wrong with people voting for the player they rightfully deem as our most consistent player all season? consistency trumps moments of brilliance everyday. consistency if by far the hardest thing to achieve in sports especially over the course of a full season and it should be duly rewarded.It's easier to be "consistent" when you aren't relied upon for goals and creativity. When you aren't double-marked and when you don't have the shit kicked out of you with alacrity with zero protection from PL refs. Over the course of a full season? Azpi wasn't even a starter till November, how is that a full season? I LOVE him, but please. And is Azpilicueta anymore consistent than Cahill or Terry (who by the way have really been consistent for the entire season and are more crucial because their back-up is David fucking Luiz) this season? I've watched all the games and I say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Since 2011 when he's been dominated by every decent winger in the league such as Valencia, Walcott, Nani, Aaron freaking lennon et al. he turns into bambi on ice whenever he faces any winger worth his salt the same cannot be said of Azpillicueta who is virtually unbeatable and absolute monster against anyone.The same guy who kept Robben in his pocket in the Super Cup? Why remember the good but not the bad? If you can't relate to my two long comments above, ignore them and know I wasn't talking to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 That's where I disagree. Without Azpilicueta, we have Ashley Cole. Since when did Ashley become such a bum that he is a unable to do a job when called upon? Just last season, we were calling him the best LB in the world. Mate, Cole's been shit for three years now and there were a lot of us who objected him being given that contract extension with ridiculous wages last year. Still good on his day but nowhere near consistent enough to be a regular for a top club anymore. Some people have just been either too blind or too ignorant to see his decline but since Mourinho dropped him everyone's been hopping onto the bandwagon. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's easier to be "consistent" when you aren't relied upon for goals and creativity. When you aren't double-marked and when you don't have the shit kicked out of you with alacrity with zero protection from PL refs. Over the course of a full season? Azpi wasn't even a starter till November, how is that a full season? I LOVE him, but please. And is Azpilicueta anymore consistent than Cahill or Terry (who by the way have really been consistent for the entire season and are more crucial because their back-up is David fucking Luiz) this season? I've watched all the games and I say no. So according to you, goals and creativity are the one and only benchmark towards winning a POTY. Hazard can score, but what's the use if he's scoring one while we concede two? Just because he was a starter doesn't mean that he can't win the POTY. The main thing is while Juan and Kevin failed to fight their way into the team, Azpilicueta did through sheer determination. It doesn't seem like you do.Tactically, JT and Azpilicueta have been by far our most consistent players. Cahill had a rough start to this season but is now one of our best defenders. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 The same guy who kept Robben in his pocket in the Super Cup? Why remember the good but not the bad? The same Cole who also forgot the basics of defending at Newcastle. Its ironic how you say that when constantly bringing up the fact that Azpilicueta didn't start until November. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's easier to be "consistent" when you aren't relied upon for goals and creativity. When you aren't double-marked and when you don't have the shit kicked out of you with alacrity with zero protection from PL refs. Over the course of a full season? Azpi wasn't even a starter till November, how is that a full season? I LOVE him, but please. And is Azpilicueta anymore consistent than Cahill or Terry (who by the way have really been consistent for the entire season and are more crucial because their back-up is David fucking Luiz) this season? I've watched all the games and I say no. It's pathetic that you have to discredit a fantastic player totally worthy and deserving of POTY in order to make your case for hazard winning the award. Ask your self this question. why do you think Azpilicueta is a front runner for the award over Hazard. chelseathebest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Vote for Azpi and let Hazard win nothing again even though he has been our most consistent attacking player and our best player this season. I could care less really. The league will give him no individual award but will put him in their team of the year while Coleman will be the LB in the team of the year. Ironic really, but not so much for Eden. Under-appreciated yet again, but a slave to his apparent inconsistency. He will never be consistent till he's Messi or Ronaldo in the eyes of some even though his performances are on par with the Reus', Bale's, Ribery's and Robben's of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 It's pathetic that you have to discredit a fantastic player totally worthy and deserving of POTY in order to make your case for hazard winning the award.Nothing pathetic. You just chose to ignore my comments and you can't disprove my point about consistency. Both Cahill and Terry are defenders which have been just as consistent as Azpi this season. I can make a huge case for either of these players being POTY this season. Name any of our attacking players that have been as consistent as Hazard. Just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Replace Hazard with Azpi's name in that paragraph. Azpilicueta is the synonym of being under-appreciated . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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