kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Especially since having one of Oscar or Willian on the bench means that our first choice mids can be rested - the lack of serious backup options crippled our season IMO.This The lack of options when oscar and fabregas lost form and Remy always getting injured when costa couldn't play killed our momentum. If we had a central midfielder like koke we would have not felt fabregas impact on our passing game. If we had reus on the right wing, Willian could come to the middle and replace oscar smoothly in the 2nd part of the season. Then we had to use drogba because Remy and Costa couldn't stay fit. Annoying really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 That's true. I guess it's his choice of words. Chelsea stands a chance against any team, but to destroy or comfortably beat a top team... the team is not at that level (yet).And I'm not so sure this Chelsea side is better than the likes of Atletico, Juve and PSG, as a collective. I think it's pretty evenly matched. The quality is there though, to surpass them. Courtois, Terry, Azpi, Matic, Fabregas, Hazard and Costa are all among the best in their positions.I agree, we really haven't destroyed any of City, United, Arse, Pool. Spuds. So not sure how anyone can claim we can destroy Madrid.But i do think Madrid plays to our strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I agree, we really haven't destroyed any of City, United, Arse, Pool. Spuds. So not sure how anyone can claim we can destroy Madrid.But i do think Madrid plays to our strength.The scoreline might not have reflected it but we did destroy City away, Liverpool and Arsenal at home last season. They were some of our best performances in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The scoreline might not have reflected it but we did destroy City away, Liverpool and Arsenal at home last season. They were some of our best performances in recent years.we also beat Spurs at home with ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The scoreline might not have reflected it but we did destroy City away, Liverpool and Arsenal at home last season. They were some of our best performances in recent years.True but i was talking about this season though. Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 we also beat Spurs at home with ease.Spurs are a big team? (didn't mention that because they simply capitulated. practically gave us the win. those City, Liverpool and Arsenal games were far more impressive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 True but i was talking about this season though.Thing is we have shown the capability to do it. It's just that we couldn't produce the same level of performances this season for one reason or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thing is we have shown the capability to do it. It's just that we couldn't produce the same level of performances this season for one reason or another.Because we changed the team?Last seasons team was good in big games and couldn't break the bus, the opposite this season.They still got results tbf to them, but the performances were mostly meh. The Chels and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Spurs are a big team? (didn't mention that because they simply capitulated. practically gave us the win. those City, Liverpool and Arsenal games were far more impressive)no but clockwork said we never destroyed them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 ThisThe lack of options when oscar and fabregas lost form and Remy always getting injured when costa couldn't play killed our momentum.If we had a central midfielder like koke we would have not felt fabregas impact on our passing game.If we had reus on the right wing, Willian could come to the middle and replace oscar smoothly in the 2nd part of the season.Then we had to use drogba because Remy and Costa couldn't stay fit. Annoying reallyThis would be best. I think Schweinsteiger could have a Ballack-like impact on the squad; he can be defensive or creative. He would not curtail RLC or Ake's development either due to his age. His lack of pace does not matter, Fabregas and Matic are only slightly quicker.It would give us these options. Matic Schweini Fabregas That can either be a bus breaker or a really balanced midfield, depending on how you instruct Schweinsteiger to play. Probably would be our strongest midfield - its only weakness would be lack of pace. Matic Schweini Schweinsteiger is DLP. Oscar Schweini RLC Schweini holds. RLC b2b, Cesc is 10. Matic can be rested without completely debalancing the mid. Cesc Matic Schweini Would be the most defensive. WillianFor me he would be a fantastic signing. Him and Reus. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thing is we have shown the capability to do it. It's just that we couldn't produce the same level of performances this season for one reason or another.Fabregas instead of David Luiz ? The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I really enjoyed watching him operate in the middle of the pitch against Sunderland. Made me think of what the possibilities would be with Reus - Hazard - Willian kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouletje 82 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I really enjoyed watching him operate in the middle of the pitch against Sunderland. Made me think of what the possibilities would be with Reus - Hazard - WillianAtm Reus is a player returning from injury, not to fixate on you alone because many of us share your opinion here but i fail to see why a player struggling to be consistant(missing the world cup/barely any playing time this season) could be of higher value than Willian has been on the right wing this season.Maybe in the long run yes, but not next season, he just won't give us that extra we need.And when we speak in the longer run, there's enough viable options for that in the youth team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Atm Reus is a player returning from injury, not to fixate on you alone because many of us share your opinion here but i fail to see why a player struggling to be consistant(missing the world cup/barely any playing time this season) could be of higher value than Willian has been on the right wing this season.Maybe in the long run yes, but not next season, he just won't give us that extra we need.And when we speak in the longer run, there's enough viable options for that in the youth team.I have Willian in the Right Wing position and I have Reus because he can score goals. I know all about his injuries and his recovery, watching Hazard made me think... That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 There's no way we'd destroy Real Madrid. They can pen teams in very well and given how we often struggle with our transitions from defence to attack against such teams then we'd have big problems creating anything meaningful. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Fabregas instead of David Luiz ?That is it. In Jose's system, especially in big games, we need another power player in the pivot next to Matic. Ramires doesn't work. kellzfresh, commilin and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 That is it. In Jose's system, especially in big games, we need another power player in the pivot next to Matic. Ramires doesn't work.People underestimate size in midfield with quality in possession. We used to have essien, ballack and lampard in midfield or Tiago, Makelele, lampard. Now Juventus have used the same model of having big physical quality passing midfielders and are dominating big teams like we used to in 2005 stroey, Barbara and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Interesting. 3-3 in aggregate vs PSG and losing to Atletico last year. 3-3 vs PSG again this year yet capable of tearing Real a new one. So either you think Real are easier to beat then PSG or failing to beat PSG was simply down to poor luck?I'd say Chelsea are tough to beat, but also find it hard to beat quality teams.What a weird way to 'equate' things. By that logic, Bradford would have taken the EPL by storm! I think the way we play is perfect to counter Madrid who had very large and obvious wholes in their system this season that I am confident we would have been able ro exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Because we changed the team?Last seasons team was good in big games and couldn't break the bus, the opposite this season.They still got results tbf to them, but the performances were mostly meh.That and also because we're trying to change the playing style. Our pragmatism from start to finish last season suited us when it came to the big games. This time around, we're still trying to find the balance between both approaches with some new additions in the team.Another ironic thing is that, last season we had a strong squad depth and it gave us options to change things. This season, less options and we couldn't change much. Usually only in the pivot and the No.10 position. Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Because we changed the team?Last seasons team was good in big games and couldn't break the bus, the opposite this season.They still got results tbf to them, but the performances were mostly meh.I think Mou sqw how important the title was this time and prioritised flat track bullying our way there and safe to say job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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