Roquila 1,335 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 How many of Lampard's goals are penalties? Get a grip he's 23.That's a fair point you made mate. I am not saying Hazard is bad, we just generally overrate him. And him wearing the PSG shirt made the night worse for me. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 That was dumb from him.... Performing poor then wearing a PSG shirt... What's next?He always blabbers about being on Messi/Ronaldo level, not only WE overrate him, he overrates himself too.Having bad players around him is not an excuse, Bale did it at Tottenham.Don't get me started on how disappointed i am on Oscar,Willian,Schurrle,Luiz,Ramires.....I really thought this year we have a GREAT team but it only ended on disappointing me.Back on Hazard: I know i will get alot abuse for this comment but i don't see all the hype around him. 16 goals, 11 assts. Not bad at all but how many goals are from penalties? I hope he will reach his potential peak but it doesn't look like that.Your team looses and you wear a fucking PSG SHIRT? Are you fucking kidding me?hahahahaa. Just classic stuff right here. We should frame your comment you know. We really should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 hahahahaa. Just classic stuff right here. We should frame your comment you know. We really should. Must be a good hobby, frame opinions...... Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 He realy needs better player next to him...willian and Oscar simply dont understand him...combinations between them are dreadfull.Or he does not understand Willian and Oscar. Football is a collective game.Its not Hazard FC. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 That was dumb from him.... Performing poor then wearing a PSG shirt... What's next?He always blabbers about being on Messi/Ronaldo level, not only WE overrate him, he overrates himself too.Having bad players around him is not an excuse, Bale did it at Tottenham.Don't get me started on how disappointed i am on Oscar,Willian,Schurrle,Luiz,Ramires.....I really thought this year we have a GREAT team but it only ended on disappointing me.Back on Hazard: I know i will get alot abuse for this comment but i don't see all the hype around him. 16 goals, 11 assts. Not bad at all but how many goals are from penalties? I hope he will reach his potential peak but it doesn't look like that.Your team looses and you wear a fucking PSG SHIRT? Are you fucking kidding me? He swapped jerseys with a PSG player. Well guess what, he's played in France and knows most of the players playing for PSG. Actually i wouldn't be suprised if the player he swapped jerseys with was Cabaye, former teammate and a good friend of Hazard.When he talked about Messi and Ronaldo he always said he hoped to reach their level one day and acknowledged that he still had a long way to go and that he had to work extremely hard everyday to achieve that. (so get your facts straight)16 goals, 11 assists. Lead goalscorer and lead assister of the team this season. Like you said not bad, not bad at all.Never really understood why fans get upset over players swapping jerseys after a loss. Could you please explain. I mean do you think him swapping jerseys means that he doesn't care that we lost or something ? Cause THAT really sounds dumb. Roquila, Eden2020 and Coop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted April 3, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sad thing is we sold two players he actually has a great understanding with (Mata & KDB) for no reason whatsoever. You're supposed to build the team around your best player and maximize his talents yet we've been doing him no favours.I also long for the days of the Cole, Lampard and Malouda partnership rather than watching Eden being forced to carry the attacking load by himself. Keikoismad, Coop, Atholy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 He swapped jerseys with a PSG player. Well guess what, he's played in France and knows most of the players playing for PSG. Actually i wouldn't be suprised if the player he swapped jerseys with was Cabaye, former teammate and a good friend of Hazard.When he talked about Messi and Ronaldo he always said he hoped to reach their level one day and acknowledged that he still had a long way to go and that he had to work extremely hard everyday to achieve that. (so get your facts straight)16 goals, 11 assists. Lead goalscorer and lead assister of the team this season. Like you said not bad, not bad at all.Never really understood why fans get upset over players swapping jerseys after a loss. Could you please explain. I mean do you think him swapping jerseys means that he doesn't care that we lost or something ? Cause THAT really sounds dumb.Finally someone who cares enough to start a discussion. Reason why i am upset that he actually WORE the shirt while giving an interview. I dont get upset because they swap but why wear it ? Maybe i am just too disappointed with the match but i really didnt like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Finally someone who cares enough to start a discussion. Reason why i am upset that he actually WORE the shirt while giving an interview. I dont get upset because they swap but why wear it ? Maybe i am just too disappointed with the match but i really didnt like it.Well i can't say for certain why he wore it but maybe he wasn't wearing anything underneath his jersey so when they asked him for an interview he quickly put on the jersey.Or maybe he was cold. I mean there are a number of valid reasons why he would wear it. Honestly think you're overeacting a bit mate. I highly doubt Hazard meant to upset anyone by wearing that jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 He swapped jerseys with a PSG player. Well guess what, he's played in France and knows most of the players playing for PSG. Actually i wouldn't be suprised if the player he swapped jerseys with was Cabaye, former teammate and a good friend of Hazard.When he talked about Messi and Ronaldo he always said he hoped to reach their level one day and acknowledged that he still had a long way to go and that he had to work extremely hard everyday to achieve that. (so get your facts straight)16 goals, 11 assists. Lead goalscorer and lead assister of the team this season. Like you said not bad, not bad at all.Never really understood why fans get upset over players swapping jerseys after a loss. Could you please explain. I mean do you think him swapping jerseys means that he doesn't care that we lost or something ? Cause THAT really sounds dumb.Don't bother answering these guys. It's a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Don't bother answering these guys. It's a waste of time. It's not about answering, it's about discussing. This is why it is called a forum. And i am actually having a good discussion with him. Just because i said things about Hazard i am not worth anymore to talk to? Just because my opinions is different to yours doesn't mean you are right. Open up your mind, remove the blue tinted glasses and you will see the world from another perspective. Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 3, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's not about answering, it's about discussing. This is why it is called a forum. And i am actually having a good discussion with him. Just because i said things about Hazard i am not worth anymore to talk to? Just because my opinions is different to yours doesn't mean you are right. Open up your mind, remove the blue tinted glasses and you will see the world from another perspecitveIt's not about blue-tinted glasses, it's about common sense. Hazard has been nothing short of world class this season and has been statistically one of the best wingers in the world. He has created the most chances (84) of any player in Europe's top 5 leagues. Those numbers you post for him, you post it like it's nothing, but are his numbers any more inferior or superior to the likes of Reus, Bale, Robben, Ribery and other world-class wingers? No. And those guys play for top-heavy teams in league where their teams are by far the strongest. Hazard has had to deal with the shit house called Torres all season. Can you imagine a player with so many chances created only having 8 assists all season? Plus Hazard already has 17 goals this season. Ronaldo had 20 goals in THAT season where he fired United to the title (2006/2007). Hazard is also a big game player. Munich, Liverpool, Man City.... even today, he was by far our best attacking player in the first half and struck the post with an incredible volley on his weaker foot from an impossible angle. Can you imagine the havoc this guy would have wrecked if he played for PSG against us (i.e a team that dominated possession in big games?) We have the best young player in the world playing for us. (Neymar, Gotze, Isco and Pogba) all fantastic, I watch them a lot, so I know, but they don't have shit on Eden. And I'm not one of these guys that thinks every Chelsea player is so amazing. I try and be objective in my views and state facts based on statistics. And not just about statistics. His style of play is so good to watch and I hear he is better to watch live. I'll pay money to watch him play football.. The Skipper, Beigl, Mufassir08 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 It's not about blue-tinted glasses, it's about common sense. Hazard has been nothing short of world class this season and has been statistically one of the best wingers in the world. He has created the most chances (84) of any player in Europe's top 5 leagues. Those numbers you post for him, you post it like it's nothing, but are his numbers any more inferior or superior to the likes of Reus, Bale, Robben, Ribery and other world-class wingers? No. And those guys play for top-heavy teams in league where their teams are by far the strongest. Hazard has had to deal with the shit house called Torres all season. Can you imagine a player with so many chances created only having 8 assists all season? Plus Hazard already has 17 goals this season. Ronaldo had 20 goals in THAT season where he fired United to the title (2006/2007). Hazard is also a big game player. Munich, Liverpool, Man City.... even today, he was by far our best attacking player in the first half and struck the post with an incredible volley on his weaker foot from an impossible angle. Can you imagine the havoc this guy would have wrecked if he played for PSG against us (i.e a team that dominated possession in big games?) We have the best young player in the world playing for us. (Neymar, Gotze, Isco and Pogba) all fantastic, I watch them a lot, so I know, but they don't have shit on Eden. And I'm not one of these guys that thinks every Chelsea player is so amazing. I try and be objective in my views and state facts based on statistics. And not just about statistics. His style of play is so good to watch and I hear he is better to watch live. I'll pay money to watch him play football.. I get your point mate but you're not getting mine. Read my comment again, i said 'Hazard is not bad at all'. What i dont like about him is that he can be MORE but sometimes just fades away.And you're right, having Torres in the team doesn't help either. Believe me brother, same as you, i wish that Hazard becomes the world best player ever but i hope he leaves these best-friend kind of things out of the pitch. This generation of footballers look like sissys to me. They all can be friends outside the pitch but inside i want a battle (metaphor).I hope he get his head up high and instead of dreaming being best player he trains hard and achieve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I get your point mate but you're not getting mine. Read my comment again, i said 'Hazard is not bad at all'. What i dont like about him is that he can be MORE but sometimes just fades away.And you're right, having Torres in the team doesn't help either. Believe me brother, same as you, i wish that Hazard becomes the world best player ever but i hope he leaves these best-friend kind of things out of the pitch. This generation of footballers look like sissys to me. They all can be friends outside the pitch but inside i want a battle (metaphor).I hope he get his head up high and instead of dreaming being best player he trains hard and achieve that. The jersey thing wasn't clever, but these interviews are done immediately after games, so it's either he has a shirt on or not. He can do more, yes he can, but so could Ibrahimovic yesterday. The thing is we played well in the first half and as a consequence, Eden was our best player. We were poor in the 2nd and he faded away. Football is a team game afterall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius 121 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hazard touch the ball once when he slotted in Oscar's central position. Granted, Oscar was irrelevant the whole game (minus the dive), Hazard was irrelevant in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The only world-clIt's just funny when people analyze games based on meager one liners like this one. It's obvious that he was "invincible" in the 2nd half because Chelsea as a whole were awful and got outclassed by PSG. Football is a team game, and you can only look as good as the team you play for. apart from the service tanking he changed from left wing to CAM and right side. didn't really get that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sad thing is we sold two players he actually has a great understanding with (Mata & KDB) for no reason whatsoever. You're supposed to build the team around your best player and maximize his talents yet we've been doing him no favours.I also long for the days of the Cole, Lampard and Malouda partnership rather than watching Eden being forced to carry the attacking load by himself.There are few players in the world that are so good that you build a team around them, perhaps only Ronaldo and Messi.Hazard is not that kind of player. Same argument were used in Torres favor: we needed players to improve Torres.This is not Hazard FC. Stop the madness. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I prefered him under Benitez.Oscar was also better under Benitez.There's no pattern in how to break defences.Look at his Real Madrid team last year against Manchester United who was just sitting, putting no pressure on Real Madrid Players and all they were doing was passing sideways in front of them waiting for a Manchester United error. No team play and quick rehearsed movements to stretch and put real pressure on them.Real Madrid are also playing better this year.Mourinho I think is not that great for players that would play best in a spanish possession team with quick combinations and passes.This year it's the same high and low that he had at Lille. He was much more consistent the last 3-4 months under Benitez.I hate the low line of our defence, the slow passing between our defenders and midfielders. MAF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 That's what happens when you have to force your best attacking player to come deep and defend... Completely negated in the second half.Bullshit. It's not like Eden and Oscar did not have to track back last year. It's just that when we have the ball, if we can't counter-attack quickly, we are clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted April 3, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 3, 2014 Bullshit. It's not like Eden and Oscar did not have to track back last year. It's just that when we have the ball, if we can't counter-attack quickly, we are clueless.Actually it was a smart point. In the first half Ramires and Luiz were pressing very well along with Hazard, Willinan and Oscar. After the yellow card and 5 mins into the second half, Ramires and Luiz were not pressing as much. Possibly worried about the red card. Hazard, Willian and Oscar were forced to sit deeper. That is how we lost the control of midfield area that we had in the first half. But as far as counter attacks are concerned, we were slow like you said in the second half. Simply because you had a striker, who doesn't know how to run, when to run and where to run. Defenders don't need to make much of an effort to cover him. Coop, bababoom, The Skipper and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 He will be much better in a possession based system...we need to have the ball for him to be effective.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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