🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

By 'there' I meant, only go down the route of rewarding him with a new contract once he is really consistent, am not comparing him with other players in my last post though some of the players mentioned there could be used as a benchmark in terms of Hazard reaching that proper level of consistency.

Yes, I know Hazard is a special talent and we need to pay big money to keep/have players like that but I would prefer not to reward him so quickly because he has only really started to perform for us this season. Make him really earn that new contract with his performances and consistently consistent.

I hear you, but I think he's been pretty consistent this season personally. That's the main difference between this season and last season. He's elevated his game to become one of the top players in the world and we haven't had that since 2009/2010 Drogba. As for earning it, I don't believe footballers really earn any of the ridiculous wages they get. Regardless of how good they are. It's about keeping your most valuable asset happy. That's how its done nowadays at the really top clubs. United did the same with Rooney. Only god knows how many times he has had his contract renewed when he never earned it. It's a business afterall.

[Jase 43,479]

I hear you, but I think he's been pretty consistent this season personally. That's the main difference between this season and last season. He's elevated his game to become one of the top players in the world and we haven't had that since 2009/2010 Drogba. As for earning it, I don't believe footballers really earn any of the ridiculous wages they get. Regardless of how good they are. It's about keeping your most valuable asset happy. That's how its done nowadays at the really top clubs. United did the same with Rooney. Only god knows how many times he has had his contract renewed when he never earned it. It's a business afterall.

I know Hazard has been consistent this season and performing better than last season but just want him to hit that consistent level of consistency in his performances but attempting to reward him with a new contract.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I know Hazard has been consistent this season and performing better than last season but just want him to hit that consistent level of consistency in his performances but attempting to reward him with a new contract.

This is about tying down a player who has world-class potential to a longer-term contract, and rewarding players who perform for the club in the right manner. I can't quite fathom how anyone would object to him receiving a pay increase if it keeps him here for a few more seasons whilst also sending out a message that he isn't for sale in the clearest terms.

[The_Flash 1,144]

We must keep Eden he has played an enormous part in keeping us in this title race

[Jase 43,479]

This is about tying down a player who has world-class potential to a longer-term contract, and rewarding players who perform for the club in the right manner. I can't quite fathom how anyone would object to him receiving a pay increase if it keeps him here for a few more seasons whilst also sending out a message that he isn't for sale in the clearest terms.

I know and I agree with the notion but just do not want to send out the wrong message by rewarding a player a new contract THAT quick just after 1 season of good/great performances. It's just my way of thinking but would not complain if what was reported happens soon.

[Barbara 15,149]

“It’s an aspiration for me because I watch a lot of games of Ronaldo and Messi, and I try to make the same,” said Hazard, who has 15 goals in all competitions this season.

“But I know I want to score more because sometimes I play well, like today, but I don’t score. To be the best player in the world, I have to score more.

It’s just in my head. I have to shoot more sometimes. I can make the pass, I can shoot and sometimes I make the pass, but I work on that.”

Well it's good that he knows it.

Link to the article it came from : http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/chelsea-midfielder-eden-hazard-i-can-be-as-good-as-lionel-messi-or-cristiano-ronaldo-9203729.html

that's really all he needs. Messi has the kind of stats he has because after he dribbles god and their mothers, he shoots. It'll maximize Eden's influence at the matches. It's not only about stats, but about improving and sharpening his finishing too. If Mourinho allows him to do whatever he wants in the final third once he has the ball, it's on him to step up and just shooooooooooooooot. The goals will come and when they start, they won't stop because he'll only get better and better finishing, but he needs to start. I think it's a matter of confidence and overly selflessness - the latter would be cute, if the other guys shooting for us weren't so horrendous with few exceptions.

This is about tying down a player who has world-class potential to a longer-term contract, and rewarding players who perform for the club in the right manner. I can't quite fathom how anyone would object to him receiving a pay increase if it keeps him here for a few more seasons whilst also sending out a message that he isn't for sale in the clearest terms.

What he's said.

This is 23yo, not an 18yo. He's earned getting a wage raise and I'm positive our board will be smart about that and with the raise will come a contract extension - which I hope it's for at least another three years.

This is the kind of risk we should take. I wanted that happened at end of this season, half-way through the next at most. It doesn't feel it's been that much, but Hazard's been here for nearly two years, next winter window, will mean half of his contract is through. We need to assure him now and offer him something that will convince him to stay further. He's said he wants to stay now, he's never said he wants to stay further than his current contract.

If big sharks come after him, they'll offer him a lot, with a new contract and new wages, we not only can assure him longer, but also make sure we've got the salary covered - as they will try to bait him with stellar wages. I think it's the right move to do, and I don't mind the timing. I'd do it at most four months into the new season anyway. It doesn't matter how quickly things escalated, what matters is that they escalated. He's evolved too much, too quickly, so he's earned it, end of it. If it was a 18yo thinking about the sports car he's going to buy, maybe I'd get their point. But this is a father of two, who's already 23 (too young for football, but mature enough to handle a raise without getting the wrong message). If anything this is highly motivating for a guy like him. This is second season he's saved our arses. Last season he shared it with Mata, but I would have given him POTY last season already.

If the board is up for it, it only makes me support them further. Right move imo.

[duo11bluecl 207]

He still got a few years left with us^^^^ even if PSG or Madrid come in now we can demand £150m easily so new contract isn't gonna matter that much, no need to make him sign that yet. Even Madrid only signed new contract with Ronaldo this season even though he scored like 50 goals every year since he joined. Reward is right but now is not the time, especially since we haven't actually achieve or winning anything yet.

[Barbara 15,149]

He still got a few years left with us^^^^ even if PSG or Madrid come in now we can demand £150m easily so new contract isn't gonna matter that much, no need to make him sign that yet. Even Madrid only signed new contract with Ronaldo this season even though he scored like 50 goals every year since he joined. Reward is right but now is not the time, especially since we haven't actually achieve or winning anything yet.

but where can you go from Real Madrid... it doesn't get bigger than that.

While Chelsea is a big club already, we don't compete with the aura clubs as RM and Barça have, or United and Bayern. Players dream about playing for those guys. That's the kind of legacy Roman wants us to have, for players while very young (teenagers) dream about playing for Chelsea.

The only case involving Ronaldo that is worth mentioning - because then it has more in common - is when RM came after him while he was in United. Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world in every aspect you look - maybe except # of supporters (I don't trust those researches in a country sphere, let alone globally) . But they have more UCL titles, they make more money than anyone else, they drag more people than anyone else where they go, the have the best player in the world, they have a galactic team. Barça only closed that gap with their recent success. If RM wins an UCL title in the next couple of years, they're increasing the gap again. So it doesn't get bigger than RM in the football world. Why would Ronaldo leave? Any move he makes now would feel like a downgrade or just the same difference, if he chose Bayern or Barça - which is very unlikely.

Now our situation is different. It gets bigger than Chelsea. A player may want to go to a bigger club if they come after him. It's tempting... unless he's absolutely happy, is appreciated by the club and the fans and has a very high compensation in his wages.

[duo11bluecl 207]

but where can you go from Real Madrid... it doesn't get bigger than that.

While Chelsea is a big club already, we don't compete with the aura clubs as RM and Barça have, or United and Bayern. Players dream about playing for those guys. That's the kind of legacy Roman wants us to have, for players while very young (teenagers) dream about playing for Chelsea.

The only case involving Ronaldo that is worth mentioning - because then it has more in common - is when RM came after him while he was in United. Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world in every aspect you look - maybe except # of supporters (I don't trust those researches in a country sphere, let alone globally) . But they have more UCL titles, they make more money than anyone else, they drag more people than anyone else where they go, the have the best player in the world, they have a galactic team. Barça only closed that gap with their recent success. If RM wins an UCL title in the next couple of years, they're increasing the gap again. So it doesn't get bigger than RM in the football world. Why would Ronaldo leave? Any move he makes now would feel like a downgrade or just the same difference, if he chose Bayern or Barça - which is very unlikely.

Now our situation is different. It gets bigger than Chelsea. A player may want to go to a bigger club if they come after him. It's tempting... unless he's absolutely happy, is appreciated by the club and the fans and has a very high compensation in his wages.

Ah yeah I suppose you are right in a sense, I think CR7 was just messing around with them anyway to ensure he became world's best paid player. The only 3 clubs bigger or better than us atm that even our own players would want to go to are Real, Barca and Bayern and even they are pretty stocked imo. Madrid just will not spend £100m on Hazard anytime for the next 5 years because even if Bale fails massively, they just can't spend £100m on 1 player to replace him again. Bayern you could argue with Ribery and Robben not really that young, but are they ever gonna pay £100m+ for him? Not for me, not for 1 player anyway. Barca you could argue yes but they are getting a bit trouble with big money signings lately and who knows what might be the consequence when it eventually reach the boiling point, maybe even Europe exclusion and players might start leaving(a bit far fetched I know)

Maybe PSG but then I think Hazard would stay with us over them. So imo he deserves a new contract and should be getting 1, just not at the moment because it would disrupt the season, maybe after we win the league in May he could.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

but where can you go from Real Madrid... it doesn't get bigger than that.

While Chelsea is a big club already, we don't compete with the aura clubs as RM and Barça have, or United and Bayern. Players dream about playing for those guys. That's the kind of legacy Roman wants us to have, for players while very young (teenagers) dream about playing for Chelsea.

The only case involving Ronaldo that is worth mentioning - because then it has more in common - is when RM came after him while he was in United. Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world in every aspect you look - maybe except # of supporters (I don't trust those researches in a country sphere, let alone globally) . But they have more UCL titles, they make more money than anyone else, they drag more people than anyone else where they go, the have the best player in the world, they have a galactic team. Barça only closed that gap with their recent success. If RM wins an UCL title in the next couple of years, they're increasing the gap again. So it doesn't get bigger than RM in the football world. Why would Ronaldo leave? Any move he makes now would feel like a downgrade or just the same difference, if he chose Bayern or Barça - which is very unlikely.

Now our situation is different. It gets bigger than Chelsea. A player may want to go to a bigger club if they come after him. It's tempting... unless he's absolutely happy, is appreciated by the club and the fans and has a very high compensation in his wages.

This is why it's important we assemble a formidable team that can and will win important titles (apparently, he told Platini "he never wins" after the Supercup). He wants to win big trophies and the ballon d'Or. That is only possible if you are there fighting for league titles and challenging in the latter stages of the CL. That's why it's important we get this summer transfer window spot-on. And most importantly, we have to keep Jose for as long as possible too. London is a great city to live as well. I was born there .

If all these things are in place, I seriously doubt he will be interested in moving elsewhere. Of course, he has to do his part too. Become more prolific by shooting more is a big start. He is going to be even more scary when hopefully, we sign Costa.

Unlike Cristiano, who was a Madrid fan and dreamed about playing for them, Hazard is not a Madrid fan. He grew up supporting PSG, and was also a fan of Zidane. Of course, PSG are a rich club now, but I don't see Hazard taking a step down to Ligue One. He's been there and done that.

[duo11bluecl 207]

This is why it's important we assemble a formidable team that can and will win titles. He wants to win big trophies and the ballon d'Or. That is only possible if you are there fighting for league titles and challenging in the latter stages of the CL. That's why it's important we get this summer transfer window spot-on. And we have to keep Jose for as long as possible too. London is a great city to live as well. I was born there . If all these things are in place, I seriously doubt he will be interested in moving elsewhere. Of course, he has to do his part too. Become more prolific by shooting more is a big start. He is going to be even more scary when hopefully, we sign Costa.

Unlike Cristiano, who was a Madrid fan and dreamed about playing for them, Hazard is not a Madrid fan. He grew up supporting PSG, and was also a fan of Zidane. Of course, PSG are a rich club now, but I don't see Hazard taking a step down to Ligue One. He's been there and done that.

It is something WE WILL HAVE TO DO, this season is the last 'transition' at the club, if the club mess up next season and don't challenge then Roman would be looking at the sacking of Jose. No excuse anymore, we will have a top class striker leading the line and a great squad that can beat anyone. The thing is Hazard might want to go to those 3 teams I mentioned not because of titles or CL but rather the NAME. And believe me nothing we can do will ever make sure we compete with that, unless we start building 100k seats stadiums or winning 3 CL in next 6 years or something.

[Greyco 143]

This is why it's important we assemble a formidable team that can and will win important titles (apparently, he told Platini "he never wins" after the Supercup). He wants to win big trophies and the ballon d'Or. That is only possible if you are there fighting for league titles and challenging in the latter stages of the CL. That's why it's important we get this summer transfer window spot-on. And most importantly, we have to keep Jose for as long as possible too. London is a great city to live as well. I was born there .

If all these things are in place, I seriously doubt he will be interested in moving elsewhere. Of course, he has to do his part too. Become more prolific by shooting more is a big start. He is going to be even more scary when hopefully, we sign Costa.

Unlike Cristiano, who was a Madrid fan and dreamed about playing for them, Hazard is not a Madrid fan. He grew up supporting PSG, and was also a fan of Zidane. Of course, PSG are a rich club now, but I don't see Hazard taking a step down to Ligue One. He's been there and done that.

Hazard's favourite teams when he was younger were Arsenal and Madrid. Definitly not PSG, don't know where you got that from. You can even see Demba taunting Hazard with the Arsenal thing when they had night with De Bruyne and the fans that was broadcasted on ChelseaTV.

[Jase 43,479]

[The Chels 2,502]

While Chelsea is a big club already, we don't compete with the aura clubs as RM and Barça have, or United and Bayern. Players dream about playing for those guys.

Might seem a random point but I think our stadium really doesn't help with building the 'massive club aura'. It's relatively small, with a very narrow pitch and only 40k or so seats. It's the type of stadium and atmosphere players would associate with mid-table sides as opposed to the biggest clubs in the world.

[zolayes 14,489]

relax and enjoy the rest of THIS season ... Speculation scrambles the brain

[Mustafa 885]

Aside from the skills, am I the only one who was impressed by his English ? He didn't stutter or anything and he said "instinctive" instinctively. Impressive

[piwi 0]

It's the same word in French But you're right, his english has improved A LOT.

[mediator 2,026]

It's the same word in French But you're right, his english has improved A LOT.

Not 100% the same, in french it's "instinctivement"

[sutro 1,026]

Glad he finally had a rest today!!

[Barbara 15,149]

it must be a relief for him to know he can count on his teammates to have matches decided and that he doesn't need to decide them all himself.

I think he had a very good match. He didn't shine because for once others stepped up.

It's good for him to have less demanding matches such as those if he's going to play 90 minutes in all possible matches we have.