🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[Kojo 4,676]

No need for a new thread. If I made this I'd be getting it tight!

http://forum.talkche...511#entry433511

I'm asking a question about Eden Hazard, what he's capable of and debating what will he bring to the club and sharing opinions and views. I could post that in Eden Hazard thread, many would overlook it, and this warrants it's own thread because i want a full discussion about his future in this thread and what he brings to the table.

And have you not noticed this forum has been very boring recently?, it's coming up to pre season, there's nothing to talk about so lets just just talk about this.

And no you get abused because you make the shittest threads out of anything, you make a thread about putting bread in a toaster, so don't you be comparing my threads to yours.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Eden Hazard, do you support Team Henrique?

[Kojo 4,676]

Eden Hazard, do you support Team Henrique?

He better do! or...

[CBird 2]

I could highlight more of Eden's attributes, as I have watched pretty much all of his games for the past 2 years, but DDA has briefly covered some of his main strengths, so I don't really feel the need to go over that again. However, I will add that many will be surprised by Hazard's strength, making it difficult to get the ball off him (if it wasn't already hard enough because of his technical ability and speed!), which has been proven by the stat that he's the most fouled player in Europe - because they have to foul him to stop him. Also, very good fitness level, despite some saying he doesn't put effort into the fitness side of things (which is wrong, he admitted he doesn't like it, but he's put in a lot of effort to be very fit regardless), he appeared in over a 100 consecutive games in Ligue 1! And most of those games he played nearly all the game.

As for where Hazard will play, however, I disagree. I don't want to go into the ins and outs of why Hazard should play CAM and not on the wing, with Mata on the wing instead, but to put it simply - Hazard is much more effective in that position. If we play 4-2-3-1, I'm sure Hazard will play CAM, with Mata on the left wing - where he's spent a lot of his career. Which brings me to another point - I'm really not sure why everyone's that bothered whether Mata plays CAM or LW, because there wasn't that much difference in his performances when he switched, more the team's performance, but that wouldn't matter with Hazard CAM. Plus, I know Mata doesn't have a preference to which he plays, or if he does it would seem he prefers LW (or maybe he said that as he knows it's where he'll play next season) because in a video about the US Tour, he said "Juan Mata; left winger". However, whoever plays left or centre, I'm sure in a 4-2-3-1, both Mata and Hazard would switch quite often in the game.

But, there is another option, and it is that we don't play 4-2-3-1 (where one of them would have to play on the wing) or 4-3-3 (where they would both have to play on the wing - unless we played a 'false 9' - which I highly doubt), but a 4-3-2-1, where they are both off the shoulder of Torres, as second strikers, or 2 centre attacking mids. But, I suppose that depends on whether we bring somebody in who will occupy the last position of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1, like Hulk or Schürrle, for example. Another is Jovetić, but I'd see him more as Torres backup/rotation or another option for Mata and Hazard's position, not so sure he'd suit RW, so unless he goes left and Mata right, or something like that, I don't see him starting always. Marin will be backup unless he forces his way into the team, in which case we may then switch to a 4-2-3-1.

[Kojo 4,676]

I could highlight more of Eden's attributes, as I have watched pretty much all of his games for the past 2 years, but DDA has briefly covered some of his main strengths, so I don't really feel the need to go over that again. However, I will add that many will be surprised by Hazard's strength, making it difficult to get the ball off him (if it wasn't already hard enough because of his technical ability and speed!), which has been proven by the stat that he's the most fouled player in Europe - because they have to foul him to stop him. Also, very good fitness level, despite some saying he doesn't put effort into the fitness side of things (which is wrong, he admitted he doesn't like it, but he's put in a lot of effort to be very fit regardless), he appeared in over a 100 consecutive games in Ligue 1! And most of those games he played nearly all the game.

As for where Hazard will play, however, I disagree. I don't want to go into the ins and outs of why Hazard should play CAM and not on the wing, with Mata on the wing instead, but to put it simply - Hazard is much more effective in that position. If we play 4-2-3-1, I'm sure Hazard will play CAM, with Mata on the left wing - where he's spent a lot of his career. Which brings me to another point - I'm really not sure why everyone's that bothered whether Mata plays CAM or LW, because there wasn't that much difference in his performances when he switched, more the team's performance, but that wouldn't matter with Hazard CAM. Plus, I know Mata doesn't have a preference to which he plays, or if he does it would seem he prefers LW (or maybe he said that as he knows it's where he'll play next season) because in a video about the US Tour, he said "Juan Mata; left winger". However, whoever plays left or centre, I'm sure in a 4-2-3-1, both Mata and Hazard would switch quite often in the game.

But, there is another option, and it is that we don't play 4-2-3-1 (where one of them would have to play on the wing) or 4-3-3 (where they would both have to play on the wing - unless we played a 'false 9' - which I highly doubt), but a 4-3-2-1, where they are both off the shoulder of Torres, as second strikers, or 2 centre attacking mids. But, I suppose that depends on whether we bring somebody in who will occupy the last position of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1, like Hulk or Schürrle, for example. Another is Jovetić, but I'd see him more as Torres backup/rotation or another option for Mata and Hazard's position, not so sure he'd suit RW, so unless he goes left and Mata right, or something like that, I don't see him starting always. Marin will be backup unless he forces his way into the team, in which case we may then switch to a 4-2-3-1.

There isn't much difference where mata plays you are right about that point. Because Mata is a free role player, he roams about and has creative freedom. However that's only in a 4-3-3, if he plays in a 4-2-3-1 and isn't playing CAM, then he cannot have the creative freedom. Only if Ramires plays on the right wing to balance it out, because will have some very weak defensive issues.

[Chelsea? 892]

I'm worried cause nasri n silva, ozil and kaka, both didn't seem to work too well.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I think he'll be the best player in the PL within 3 years.

[Joker10 946]

Wait didn't Hazard play most of the season on the left? From what i understand he spent as much time on the left as Mata did this season.

[DDA 9,939]

Do you think he could be potentially one of the best players in the world when his time comes?, or do you think that's going too far?. Just heard a lot of comments about it, his stats for Lillie last season where impressive. I have heard Edens technique is world class and not many are capable of besides Iniesta, Ronaldo etc.

Could he be one of the greatest players ever in a Chelsea shirt?, i think this team is in desperate need of a great player, a player with flair and ideas. Is Hazard a creative player?, or is that an aspect which has nothing special to it?. And with his pace maybe it is the right thing to do, to place him on the wing.

Well when C.Ronaldo first came to the Premiership i remember seeing him in his first game for Man United, he came on as a substitute late on in the game. He showed flair, trickery and got about the pitch making himself a nuisance. Now he is the best player in the world along with Lionel Messi (I know people will argue that but that's my honest opinion).

I know Ronaldo was 17/18 when he came to the Premiership and Eden is older but Hazard has that same explosive energy and other attributes i and CBird touched on earlier. Also Cristiano had Fergie in his corner who known for his excellence when it comes to nurturing young talents but given time and the right system Eden could flourish and he easily possesses the talent to become the best player in the PL and even the world.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Meh. He'll do a Robben, I think. Come here to grow his talents further then bugger off to Spain, and miss a penalty in extra time in the Champions League Final against the club that made him.

[termninja 5,290]

Meh. He'll do a Robben, I think. Come here to grow his talents further then bugger off to Spain, and miss a penalty in extra time in the Champions League Final against the club that made him.

Honestly, I think so too. We'll have him for some time, he'll fire up everyone and we'll sell him to Real Madrid for a hefty fee.

But whatever, either keep him or get money from his sale, we made a profit, especially important for financial fair play. Who knows, perhaps he falls in love with Chels and ends his career here

[Kojo 4,676]

Fuck off

Just because i made a thread on Eden Hazard doesn't mean you have to merge it, i wanted to discuss his future here. Not on this thread, this thread is better for news updates and how he played.

Taking this way too far now, and fuck off Wilson you cock sucker.

[HNKS 508]

Fuck off

Just because i made a thread on Eden Hazard doesn't mean you have to merge it, i wanted to discuss his future here. Not on this thread, this thread is better for news updates and how he played.

Taking this way too far now, and fuck off Wilson you cock sucker.

Lol someone needs to chill.

[Kojo 4,676]

Lol someone needs to chill.

Fuck off, i'm angry because this thread shouldn't of been merged. See i'm no pussy, i'm not gonna back down!, no not on the internetz not anywhere, this shouldn't of happened. And just take a look at my balls!.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Artinho
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[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I somewhat agree with Sloth. There was no real need to merge the threads.

[HNKS 508]

Fuck off, i'm angry because this thread shouldn't of been merged. See i'm no pussy, i'm not gonna back down!, no not on the internetz not anywhere, this shouldn't of happened. And just take a look at my balls!.

Ok I get it! You have got issues...

[Ollie 4,400]

Too many threads get merged anyway. Some threads are made so a certain point can be discussed in depth properly instead of in a mix of other things about the player. I can understand Sloth but i can understand why that specific thread was put here. Some need to be left alone tho.

I think Hazard will be fine, he's young and confident and really looks the business to me and if he puts in 5 good years and helps us win another premiership and champions league, i'll be happy, let him go. That's football. If he helps us win nothing, again that's football. Nobody has a god given right to win trophies and if it doesn't work out, so be it. On a personal point of view, i genuinely think he'll be very good for us.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Too many threads get merged anyway. Some threads are made so a certain point can be discussed in depth properly instead of in a mix of other things about the player. I can understand Sloth but i can understand why that specific thread was put here. Some need to be left alone tho.

I think Hazard will be fine, he's young and confident and really looks the business to me and if he puts in 5 good years and helps us win another premiership and champions league, i'll be happy, let him go. That's football. If he helps us win nothing, again that's football. Nobody has a god given right to win trophies and if it doesn't work out, so be it. On a personal point of view, i genuinely think he'll be very good for us.

So Ollie you finally got the Real Madrid thread to be taken down?

It's kinda ridicules they wait this long to take it down, when they should have done it when I voiced my concern.

No team should have their thread in a Chelsea forum.

It's not a neutral forum.

[Atholy 1,293]

Ok I'll bring some positive karma back in this thread!

I was looking for the Eden Hazard thread... but could not find it in Transfer talks...

Then I certainly realized: he's in PLAYER DATABASE!!

HOOAH!!

[Term-X 7,891]

i'm angry because this thread shouldn't of been merged.

The problem was, you choose the most unoriginal & uninspired thread title in Talk Chelsea history.