Hamilton 2,120 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I am not exactly sure what conclusion he is attempting to draw. KDB could have a shit game or not even play like he has for roughly most of the season and City would still be fine. In fact KDB has started in 5 PL games this season, and 2 of them were losses. He has been involved in 3 of out of 4 City league losses. Their record is astonishingly better without him. It indeed surprised me how good they did without him all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,660 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I am not exactly sure what conclusion he is attempting to draw. KDB could have a shit game or not even play like he has for roughly most of the season and City would still be fine. In fact KDB has started in 5 PL games this season, and 2 of them were losses. He has been involved in 3 of out of 4 City league losses. Their record is astonishingly better without him. i mean, you only have to watch the wc games to know who is the most important player there. Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 10 hours ago, whats happening said: i mean, you only have to watch the wc games to know who is the most important player there. Belgium played two top teams in the World Cup: beat Brazil when kdb was motm then lost to france when hazard was Belgium better player. In my opinion kdb is the more influential player... heh not really that controversial outside of these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Robchels said: Belgium played two top teams in the World Cup: beat Brazil when kdb was motm then lost to france when hazard was Belgium better player. In my opinion kdb is the more influential player... heh not really that controversial outside of these forums. You forgot to add that Hazard was great in both games, while De Bruyne played realy average against France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: You forgot to add that Hazard was great in both games, while De Bruyne played realy average against France. Hence why they lost... my point is that when kdb has a good game, his team is more likely to benefit from it than when hazard has a good game. It’s just, again imo, that kdb is able to influence the game more directly in his style of play. Pure dribblers can be contained by isolating them to areas of the pitch. They will still beat players routinely, esp competent ones like Eden, but their influence will be greatly diminished. Sir Mikel OBE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Robchels said: Hence why they lost... my point is that when kdb has a good game, his team is more likely to benefit from it than when hazard has a good game. It’s just, again imo, that kdb is able to influence the game more directly in his style of play. Pure dribblers can be contained by isolating them to areas of the pitch. They will still beat players routinely, esp competent ones like Eden, but their influence will be greatly diminished. Fair enough. Kdb is more direct indeed and if he makes great passes, its likely his team will score from one, while Eden dribbles dont always result in goals. That said Hazard has been way more consistent for Belgium the last 3 years. Kdb had couple great games that helped Belgium win, but Hazard is performing well for them on regular basis. Kdb has fewer great performances, but when he does his team likely wins. Hazard is usualy best player in team. Overall, due to Hazard consistency he helps his team win more times, albeit at worse percentage (motm/win) ratio. Still thats the only thing that matters because he delivers on regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 What Eden Hazard did after Man City loss proves he should replace Azpilicueta as Chelsea captain https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/hazard-chelsea-captain-azpilicueta-sarri-15889626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abreu03 292 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 9:27 PM, Robchels said: When KDB has a great game, Belgium or city always wins. when hazard has a great game, Belgium or Chelsea might win. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abreu03 292 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Robchels said: Belgium played two top teams in the World Cup: beat Brazil when kdb was motm then lost to france when hazard was Belgium better player. In my opinion kdb is the more influential player... heh not really that controversial outside of these forums. De Bruyne MOTM vs Brazil? WTF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA herzogian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogian 148 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 When KDB has a great game, Belgium or city always wins. when hazard has a great game, Belgium or Chelsea might win. So you are saying that KDB only plays good when his team is winning? [emoji51] Honestly, I don't perceive a difference in how much both players influence their teams performance. Both KDB and Hazard are capable of winning the match for their team, it's what makes them special. Both KDB and Hazard have a tendency to fade away in some games (like any normal player would), it's what proves they are human. Only real differences are their style of play and of course the fact that KDB plays in a team with more quality on the pitch. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ANE-LX1 met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Capitan? If he signs new contract why not. Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Nobody talking about his shit game yesterday? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herzogian 148 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Nobody talking about his shit game yesterday? [emoji848] Why? He clearly was tired from the effort on Sunday. And yes he had a moderately shitty game... hence his substitution. Nough said me thinks, on to the next one. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ANE-LX1 met Tapatalk Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,089 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Hamilton said: Nobody talking about his shit game yesterday? 🤔 Was flashes but fatigue maybe a part in why it was only flashes. Think Sarri made right move subbing him. Hamilton, kellzfresh and kc_blue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 10:14 AM, herzogian said: So you are saying that KDB only plays good when his team is winning? Honestly, I don't perceive a difference in how much both players influence their teams performance. Both KDB and Hazard are capable of winning the match for their team, it's what makes them special. Both KDB and Hazard have a tendency to fade away in some games (like any normal player would), it's what proves they are human. Only real differences are their style of play and of course the fact that KDB plays in a team with more quality on the pitch. Verstuurd vanaf mijn ANE-LX1 met Tapatalk While I agree they are both great players, they are very different in terms of characteristics. My take around the notorious eden inconsistency is that it is partly due to his style of play (reliance on dribbling) and physique. KDB is physically stronger for exemple. A passer often can still do well even when not 100%, while a pacey dribbler will struggle more. like I wrote before, it’s a bit easier to contain dribblers esp in tough games where spaces are already scarce enough. It’s more difficult to contain a player who can produce a killer pass from multiple midfield positions or score from afar. my stance is the same with other players and leagues and not necessarily about these two: it’s a matter of characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Blue Armour, Hamilton and kellzfresh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Eden Hazard says Kepa can be ‘one of the world’s best’ after being dropped by Maurizio Sarri https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/28/chelsea-eden-hazard-says-kepa-arrizabalaga-can-one-worlds-best-dropped-maurizio-sarri-8786466/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Chelsea have re-opened contract talks with Belgium forward Eden Hazard, 28, with Real Madrid still interested. (Le10 Sport - in French) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Hazard reveals minor thigh injury, explains why he was substituted early against Spurs https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2019/2/28/18245007/hazard-reveals-minor-thigh-injury-explains-why-he-was-substituted-early-against-spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, the wes said: Chelsea have re-opened contract talks with Belgium forward Eden Hazard, 28, with Real Madrid still interested. (Le10 Sport - in French) Here's the article. https://le10sport.com/football/mercato/exclu-mercato-real-madrid-chelsea-saccroche-pour-hazard-438134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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