🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[DDA 9,938]

I can unserstand people defending his ability but to defend his performances this season is madness. I guess if you feel completing 3 out of 6 backheels on the spin is an acheivement.. then yh he has been immense.

[Styles 9,790]

1 hour ago, sutro said:

Instead of getting to his so called "prime " years  i got the feeling that he's already declining.

This wouldn't be the case if he was at a top club and/or had a good manager.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

51 minutes ago, DDA said:

I can unserstand people defending his ability but to defend his performances this season is madness. I guess if you feel completing 3 out of 6 backheels on the spin is an acheivement.. then yh he has been immense.

Madness ? 15 goals and 8 assists. Leading goalscorer, in all competitions, for us this season. He's been off form these last 4 weeks but that doesn't mean we should forget what he's done before that.

 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Madness ? 15 goals and 8 assists. Leading goalscorer, in all competitions, for us this season. He's been off form these last 4 weeks but that doesn't mean we should forget what he's done before that.

 

4 weeks? Try since January. The most crucial part of the season and he’s been shite (especially in the big games). We shouldn’t let what he’s done before that cloud our judgement either, which seems to be happening far too much. Every player can do better but for someone with his ability and somebody who is constantly backed by the fans when others aren’t he needs to do a lot better.

[Styles 9,790]

1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Madness ? 15 goals and 8 assists. Leading goalscorer, in all competitions, for us this season. He's been off form these last 4 weeks but that doesn't mean we should forget what he's done before that.

It's over, bro. The Hazard story here is finished. The same guys criticising him now will be crying for him when he joins a good team and does well.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

45 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

4 weeks? Try since January. The most crucial part of the season and he’s been shite (especially in the big games). We shouldn’t let what he’s done before that cloud our judgement either, which seems to be happening far too much. Every player can do better but for someone with his ability and somebody who is constantly backed by the fans when others aren’t he needs to do a lot better.

4 goals 1 assist in january (7 games). 3 goals 2 assists in february (4 games). 7 goals and 3 assists in 2018.

[LAM09 7,051]

4 goals 1 assist in january (7 games). 3 goals 2 assists in february (4 games). 7 goals and 3 assists in 2018.

7 goals in 19 games certainly isn't good enough for someone that's supposed to be amongst the best.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 minute ago, LAM09 said:

15 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

4 goals 1 assist in january (7 games). 3 goals 2 assists in february (4 games). 7 goals and 3 assists in 2018.

7 goals in 19 games certainly isn't good enough for someone that's supposed to be amongst the best.

Either follow the conversation properly or stfu. I said he's been poor in march (4 weeks) onemosalah said he's been poor since january so i then brought up his stats clearly showing he has been performing in january and february.

He still scored more goals then any other Chelsea player in 2018.  Even Willian in the form of his life didn't score as much.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

9 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Either follow the conversation properly or stfu. I said he's been poor in march (4 weeks) onemosalah said he's been poor since january so i then brought up his stats clearly showing he has been performing in january and february.

He still scored more goals then any other Chelsea player in 2018.  Even Willian in the form of his life didn't score as much.

Okay so hes scored 7 goals, how many against top teams? Arsenal via a penalty? The most crucial run in of our season has been from January to now with big games in the CL and PL and he simply hasn't delivered. Willian in the form of his life played better against bigger teams. Your getting quite jumpy telling other members to stfu think you should chill out a bit. Hes voicing an opinion, like I am. Stats you brought up were almost definitely against the smaller teams, fair enough, but the crucial matches where was he? Nowhere... same yesterday and I can't believe that many other people dont see this as well.

 

18 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

32 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

4 goals 1 assist in january (7 games). 3 goals 2 assists in february (4 games). 7 goals and 3 assists in 2018.

7 goals in 19 games certainly isn't good enough for someone that's supposed to be amongst the best.

1 penalty v Arsenal and god knows how many invisible performances vs the other big teams we've played, Barca x2, City, United, Spurs, Arsenal... all since the start of January, also throw in his pitiful performances against Bournemouth and Watford too where he was completely anonymous (yes im aware he scored v Watford but). 

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, Mana said:

Anyway, how many goals did he score against a top 6 side this season?

...1. Against Arsenal. From a pen.

Willian scored way more than him this season against top 6. Even Alonso as well.

You forgot Morata. 

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Okay so hes scored 7 goals, how many against top teams? Arsenal via a penalty? The most crucial run in of our season has been from January to now with big games in the CL and PL and he simply hasn't delivered. Willian in the form of his life played better against bigger teams. Your getting quite jumpy telling other members to stfu think you should chill out a bit. Hes voicing an opinion, like I am. 

 

1 penalty v Arsenal and god knows how many invisible performances vs the other big teams we've played, Barca x2, City, United, Spurs, Arsenal... all since the start of January, also throw in his pitful performances against Bournemouth and Watford too where he was completely anonymous. 

Just pointless discussing things with you. 

Jumpy ? I simply get irritated when people say stupid things but enough, i'm done, wasted enough time. 

 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Styles said:

This wouldn't be the case if he was at a top club and/or had a good manager.

He has been here for 6 years and how long more are people gonna put his lack of consistency or goals/assists contribution down to poor squad/manager? I mean sure, having a flawed squad and/or average manager plays a part but it also comes down to the application from the player himself. You only have to look at Kante as an example. Different player and not as talented as Hazard but he consistently puts in the performances, always looking to make a difference with his energy, work rate, quality etc and it's not only on the defensive side of things but also offensive wise. Not devaluing Hazard by any means but has he actually put in 10, 15, 20 consistent, consecutive performances in a season? Like some has mentioned in here, Hazard always does well for 4-5 games and then suddenly goes quiet for the next 10. If he can do it for 4-5 games straight, then why can't he sustain that kind of form for longer period? Blaming the poor quality of the squad or manager only goes so far. Comes down to the desire, mental fortitude and application at the end of the day.

[LAM09 7,051]

1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said:

Either follow the conversation properly or stfu. I said he's been poor in march (4 weeks) onemosalah said he's been poor since january so i then brought up his stats clearly showing he has been performing in january and february.
He still scored more goals then any other Chelsea player in 2018.  Even Willian in the form of his life didn't score as much.

Might be helpful if you drop the bias your name alludes too.

He's been poor all year, so my point about his stats still stands. His only notable performance this year was against the team way adrift in 20th. Stop trying to defend the indefensible and I couldn't care less about Willian's output or lack of in HAZARD'S thread.
 

 

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

2 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Just pointless discussing things with you. 

Jumpy ? I simply get irritated when people say stupid things but enough, i'm done, wasted enough time. 

 

What do you mean? There are more than enough points there to discuss, how many big games since the turn of the year has he shown up in? What did he do vs Arsenal other than scoring a penalty? Maybe he showed up for 25 mins vs United? He was a no show v City (where he sat walking about with his arms in the air more often than not complaining), same in the games against Barca and yesterday. Throw in those games vs Bournemouth and Watford and you have got what 7 or 8 games in total where he has been pretty poor since the turn of the year. If people are seriously thinking if he goes in the summer that this club will be fucked then they are wrong. If people seriously think Real Madrid are going to prioritise signing him over Neymar they are also very wrong, lets be very honest. 

Irritated? I get quite irritated when members like yourself and that other bloke from yesterday sit there and give all this 'I'm done wasting enough time' over what many people on here seem to think is a valid thing to discuss, a lack of big game performances in the most crucial part of our season. Since the start of this year I've seen other forum members bring this up and until he does something to change opinions in this regard it will continue to be brought up. Lets be frank if this was Willian or Pedro they would get absolutely slated and guys like yourself would be right at the front of the cue. Now if we want to talk about him playing against the smaller teams or even bring up his big performances from last season yes fair enough, but we are going to be playing Europa League football next season without a doubt by the looks of it, the big games have cost us this year, the whole team is to blame but to sit there and protect Eden as if he was a one man army in these big games is utterly ridiculous. Willian for example playing arguably the best football of his career in a tough period for the team, fair enough maybe it was just a purple patch but still it was more productive than what he showed in that time. Other people have also been criticising other players, Cesc, Morata, Christensen, Cahill, Courtois, Bakayoko... but when it comes to Eden there is some sort of we are lucky to have him feeling, maybe we are maybe we aren't but regardless in the most crucial matches of this season he has flattered to deceive. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

Probably needs to have a bit more of that Christiano selfish arsehole streak to be a true great

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

8 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Probably needs to have a bit more of that Christiano selfish arsehole streak to be a true great

The only thing he needs to to be a true great is to leave Chelsea and go to a team that plays possession based, attacking football, is littered with world class, technically gifted players and  plays to his strengths.

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

The only thing he needs to to be a true great is to leave Chelsea and go to a team that plays possession based, attacking football, is littered with world class, technically gifted players and  plays to his strengths.

Such as ?

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

16 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Such as ?

Madrid, City, Bayern, Barcelona, PSG. Even Spurs and Liverpool have a superior philosophy to us. Our approach in big games is still the same ol' sit deep and wait rudimentary counter-attack. Hardly any of the other top players in the world play for such a team. 

Which brings me to another concern I have. See how many of our transfer targets turned us down last summer. They'll have seen the type of football Chelsea is known for and would have wanted no parts of it. Danilo would rather join last year's 4th place team as a reserve full back than join the Champions and be a likely starter. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

7 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Madrid, City, Bayern, Barcelona, PSG. Even Spurs and Liverpool have a superior philosophy to us. Our approach in big games is still the same ol' sit deep and wait rudimentary counter-attack. Hardly any of the other top players in the world play for such a team. 

Which brings me to another concern I have. See how many of our transfer targets turned us down last summer. They'll have seen the type of football Chelsea is known for and would have wanted no parts of it. Danilo would rather join last year's 4th place team as a reserve full back than join the Champions and be a likely starter. 

Well it would be fucking beyond idiotic to sell him to a rival - but not beyond the wisdom of the board as we know.

If he wants to go, fuck it let him go to Madrid, take the cash and give Hudson a chance

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, LAM09 said:

2 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

4 goals 1 assist in january (7 games). 3 goals 2 assists in february (4 games). 7 goals and 3 assists in 2018.

7 goals in 19 games certainly isn't good enough for someone that's supposed to be amongst the best.

For an unselfish winger that's a very good return.