🇧🇪 Eden Hazard

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

What is truly funny is most Chelsea fans never learn. Hazard was apparently worth less than crap and most wanted him to be sold two years ago. Season later, SAME people lick his ass.

Now its basicaly the same. Yeah he isnt doing that great and we have another shit season, so lets throw more crap at Hazard because he is bad. Lets sell him in summer, right? Yet, thick brains dont think twice about concesquences. We sold Costa and Matic who were important, but nowhere near Eden. Yet, we dropped down 4 places. Without Eden, not only we will lose main and probably only creative force, we also lose the man that automaticaly forces opponent to play differently when handling Eden.

But yeah sell him, because he isnt scoring winner every game. When will people realize being best player at club has nothing to do with goals, at all?

I would understand if it was his first or second season at club. But he is here now almost the longest serving player from current team, and he was definately amazing in every season, bar 2015-16. Even this season, he was outstanding in first half and I remember people here prasing him for stepping up. Now couple average games, people here just forget all that.

Its just sad. No one says dont criticise him. He is responsible player and needs to show his worth. If he doesnt, its only right to be unhappy.

Shit, Real fans boo Ronaldo too. But they fucking understand deep down that he is still incredible player and wouldnt sell him at all. Problem with Chelsea fans is they are spoiled and dont know shit about player value to the club. Booing after bad game to tell him he has to step up is one thing, but actualy debating should he be sold, is he good enough, how much money can we get and how can we replace him is beyond ridiculous.

Get a grip people, right now we cant attract players like Eden and if we sell him, we will not see 1st or 2nd place for next 3 seasons at least.

Sometimes I just feel some people would deserve a very crappy Chelsea for couple seasons, because they cant appreciate what we actualy have and know jack shit about loyalty, trust and respect.

Selling him would be the dumbest thing ever. EVER. He may have his flaws like everybody else and it's okay for us know-it-alls to comment on those, but not in a million years would THIS Chelsea be able to replace him. No chance, nada, zero, zip! We couldn't tempt fucking Oxlade-Chamberlain ffs. We couldn't get Lukaku which was the most straightforward transfer in the world. Getting the Dybalas and Neymars of the world to replace him is a fantasy like it is for any of us to boink Dita Von Teese (or Rami Malek for the girls in here, Mr. Robot kicks ass).

I can't stress enough how stupid it would be to sell him because he doesn't make enough through passes or doesn't shoot enough or overdoes flicks. A proper club with a vision and plan would balance that out with a killer winger on the opposite side, but we bought Pedro instead and sold Salah. This is the story of Chelsea, the story is a tragedy with a pinch of comedy.

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2 hours ago, manpe said:

Selling him would be the dumbest thing ever. EVER. He may have his flaws like everybody else and it's okay for us know-it-alls to comment on those, but not in a million years would THIS Chelsea be able to replace him. No chance, nada, zero, zip! We couldn't tempt fucking Oxlade-Chamberlain ffs. We couldn't get Lukaku which was the most straightforward transfer in the world. Getting the Dybalas and Neymars of the world to replace him is a fantasy like it is for any of us to boink Dita Von Teese (or Rami Malek for the girls in here, Mr. Robot kicks ass).

I can't stress enough how stupid it would be to sell him because he doesn't make enough through passes or doesn't shoot enough or overdoes flicks. A proper club with a vision and plan would balance that out with a killer winger on the opposite side, but we bought Pedro instead and sold Salah. This is the story of Chelsea, the story is a tragedy with a pinch of comedy.

Well we did have Salah at some point, like you said, so replacing Hazard can't be that out of this world as you suggest.  We also did have Kevin De Bruyne too, btw. That's how you replace a key player: you sign a number of prospects until one ends up delivering. You don't go for a Neymar or Dybala which would indeed be unrealistic. That's what Liverpool does since they don't have the cash to buy key players.

Now, I don't disagree with you considering how bad our decisions concerning transfers have been lately, so we might end up selling Hazard to PSG (also can't see him RM going for him) and failing to replace him with anyone remotely as good.

I actually think Eden is going nowhere.

[the wes 7,212]

we should offer psg Hazard and £50m for neymar that's to smart for our board to do 

[Special Juan 28,730]

He was atrocious yesterday.

[Blue Armour 4,711]

Eden Hazard: Chelsea must come together to 'achieve something'

 

http://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea/story/3449934/eden-hazard-chelsea-must-come-together-to-achieve-something

[Polo7 3,496]

Only plays well when he can be bothered. Actually sick of it. Not knowing which hazard will turn up. We should just sell.

[gadget 126]

People wanting to sell Hazard please have a day off.  One of the best players in the world and possibly the best player we've had at Chelsea and you want him sold? 

If you actually watch games, 90% of everything we do is through him, despite having 2/3 opposition around him yet people get annoyed when he looses it yet not one other player is attempting anything effective in an attacking sense.

rather than want him out, id rather bring in players technically on or near his level to support him. Again if you want games him and Fabregas often look only for one another because no-one else is comfortable at keeping the ball (Mata was another who linked up well with Hazard)

We've been Eden Hazrad Fc for a fair few years now and selling him would be a stupid stupid idea

[robsblubot 3,595]

7 hours ago, gadget said:

rather than want him out, id rather bring in players technically on or near his level to support him. Again if you want games him and Fabregas often look only for one another because no-one else is comfortable at keeping the ball (Mata was another who linked up well with Hazard)

 everybody wants that - even if I don't think Eden is as good as you say, I'd rather add quality players and keep him. But what if the club, for one reason or another, cannot do that? Would you then say Hazard should be sold?

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If you actually watch games, 90% of everything we do is through him, despite having 2/3 opposition around him yet people get annoyed when he looses it yet not one other player is attempting anything effective in an attacking sense.

Perhaps that's the problem? Perhaps this club does not have the luxury to have a player like Hazard at the moment, so it might be more beneficial to have 2-3 good players instead of one star. I know that for Hazard FC fans this is crazy talk, but for Chelsea FC fans it should be something to consider.

[DDA 10,205]

3 hours ago, Robguima said:

Perhaps this club does not have the luxury to have a player like Hazard at the moment, so it might be more beneficial to have 2-3 good players instead of one star.

We are far too reliant on Eden to produce the goods. I want him to stay nut if the club can't afford to buy players of real quality who will elevate Hazards game then we really need to start looking at the bigger picture here. 

[oxfordblues 299]

anybody else thinking this is his last season at chelsea,i do.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Eden Hazard at Chelsea - Premier League 2017/18

Hazard 2017/18	Shots/90	Chances/90	Touches in opp box/90	Dribbles/90	Shot conversion
Before Jan 1	2.7	2.9	6.7	6.1	14.7%
Since Jan 1	2.5	3.6	6.6	6.0	23.8%

This skysports table shows that hazards performances hasnt dropped from the beginning of the season. Its his teammates form that has fallen off a cliff.

But it also proves my point that the loss of costa has been massive. Goals win games, you can dribble all you like but the goalscorer is the most important player in the team. Hazard needs a consistent goalscorer and with Costa and pedro last season, he had two chipping in with goals. Now it is Morata and willian who no matter how technical they can be, they can never replace Costa and pedros goals.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, kellzfresh said:

Eden Hazard at Chelsea - Premier League 2017/18

Hazard 2017/18	Shots/90	Chances/90	Touches in opp box/90	Dribbles/90	Shot conversion
Before Jan 1	2.7	2.9	6.7	6.1	14.7%
Since Jan 1	2.5	3.6	6.6	6.0	23.8%

This skysports table shows that hazards performances hasnt dropped from the beginning of the season. Its his teammates form that has fallen off a cliff.

But it also proves my point that the loss of costa has been massive. Goals win games, you can dribble all you like but the goalscorer is the most important player in the team. Hazard needs a consistent goalscorer and with Costa and pedro last season, he had two chipping in with goals. Now it is Morata and willian who no matter how technical they can be, they can never replace Costa and pedros goals.

If only stats tell the whole story...

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

1 hour ago, Mana said:

I wish I can believe this, but someone will pull Morata's stats and say he's doing fantastic this season.

Also, where's the goals? Hazard definitely dropped in that area.

before  january 1 : 8 goals 5 asists

after january 1 : 7 goals 3 assists.

[Blue Armour 4,711]

On 4/11/2018 at 4:20 PM, DDA said:

We are far too reliant on Eden to produce the goods. I want him to stay nut if the club can't afford to buy players of real quality who will elevate Hazards game then we really need to start looking at the bigger picture here. 

And what is the bigger picture? Replacing him with 3 Drinkwaters or 3 Barkleys? (The irony is that after all the recent results, its Drinkwater that's hankering for a move. Wouldn't mind that actually. Probably means Loftus-Cheek can come back and take his spot)

Hazard is the closest we've had to a Zola, Drogba or Lampard. Its pretty much guaranteed that we won't get even one, let alone 3 players of that quality.

 

 

[Blue Armour 4,711]

14 hours ago, Mana said:

I wish I can believe this, but someone will pull Morata's stats and say he's doing fantastic this season.

Also, where's the goals? Hazard definitely dropped in that area.

Our top scorer he is.

[DDA 10,205]

7 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

And what is the bigger picture? Replacing him with 3 Drinkwaters or 3 Barkleys? (The irony is that after all the recent results, its Drinkwater that's hankering for a move. Wouldn't mind that actually. Probably means Loftus-Cheek can come back and take his spot)

Hazard is the closest we've had to a Zola, Drogba or Lampard. Its pretty much guaranteed that we won't get even one, let alone 3 players of that quality.

 

 

Come on man. If you think I would rather have 3 drinkwaters or 3 Barkleys over Eden then you are not understanding what i am saying at all. I was suggesting that maybe we get in 3 players that will improve the team overall rather than have 1 Elite player such as Hazard. I don't want Eden to go at all. Who would.. but it seems our board feel as if all the time we have Eden in our squad we dont need to worry about the deficencies on other areas.

[Blue Armour 4,711]

9 hours ago, Mana said:

That's your opinion. I strongly disagree with Hazard being fantastic this season. Sorry.

My opinion is that he's the best of our sorry bunch. I'm just saying that Hazard should be the last person on the squad to be scrutinized.

[Blue Armour 4,711]

8 hours ago, DDA said:

Come on man. If you think I would rather have 3 drinkwaters or 3 Barkleys over Eden then you are not understanding what i am saying at all. I was suggesting that maybe we get in 3 players that will improve the team overall rather than have 1 Elite player such as Hazard. I don't want Eden to go at all. Who would.. but it seems our board feel as if all the time we have Eden in our squad we dont need to worry about the deficencies on other areas.

Whether board really feels that way is up for debate, .but I do see your point. Even if that there were indeed the case though, I still think the alternative is far more risky.

IMO, I think the board has just been trying to act too clever in the past few windows and the strategy backfired on them. They thought that making someone like Drinkwater play in Chelsea would elevate their game, ala Kante, and that giving up experienced Matic for upcoming but untested Bakayoko would work like a charm. Without a director of football, and champions league lure, we will struggle to attract known players of top caliber.

2 hours ago, Mana said:

Lol, last person? Including Kante and Azpi? Nah, strongly disagree.

Fair comments, these are subjective things, and I'll admit Kante is one of a kind as well.

Azpi, I'll give points for his commitment to the cause.

[Milan 17,997]

By the way, Hazard after scoring the equalizer yesterday -

[Thor 2,817]

He seems to really love the club, but obviously is extremely frustrated with the situation. It is not hard to see why in all honesty. 

All these years we've had him, and we have never really built around him the way other teams have around their best players.

 

You can talk about his consistency all you want, for me he is. Hard to look consistent on a team like this, when the team is not catered towards you at all. Ronaldo has it. Messi has it. Even Neymar has it and he only just got to PSG. 

Get a manager who will play attacking football, allow Hazard to get into space and work magic. He looked brilliant carrying the ball through the park in the middle in the last game. Just at times had no one to pass to or build up with. Alonso is especially useless. Either too deep in attack playing on the shoulder almost as a striker, or he is lagging behind. Not to mention when he does get it, slows it up due to being one footed and unable to beat his man to keep the attack going. 
 

Get him someone decent on that wing to work with, and a manager that wants to push forward and he will look even better. I honestly think Emerson might fit the bill. Pace and engine for days, and great with the ball at his feet.