Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 He's 25.... If he has another sub par season the age won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 If he has another sub par season the age won't matter. He's had 1 awful season in his career, there's a much bigger chance that this is just a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 He's had 1 awful season in his career, there's a much bigger chance that this is just a fluke. You could be right... My reasons for wanting to sell him go beyond his form this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Because regardless of what the media tell you most players value big wages over champions league success. I bet most players value what Chelsea fans tell them to do on an online forum as well. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Robben came into his own very late into his career. He flopped at Madrid and only really started to show his real quality at 30 yrs old. We were right to sell him I just wish we got more for him. Haha, yeah he flopped alright. He was the best player in their squad before Ronaldo joined (RM fans will tell you that), and technically was forced out after they signed Ronaldo and Kaka, they clearly wanted him as a squad player at most. It happened with Sneijder as well, who was more outspoken about his situation with Real after leaving. They just have the habit of selling and buying more frequently than other teams. Maybe you should support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: You never know but if we kept Robben IMO we would have one more CL title at least. And dude was pretty good in that Real side' basicaly he was dragging them last season and they still sold him to Bayern where he truly exploded. But unlike you, if I could turn back time I would not sell him. He might be late blummer (depends how you look) but his form was so good it would be worth a wait. Its easy that after Robben won 2013 UCL with Bayern. Robben left Chelsea in 2007 because we had a croweded squad. Ballack, Essien, Lampard and Makelele were making the mid and in Robben's position Joe Cole was the player of that season. Robben wasn't essential back them and he wasn't getting enough playing time. He was decent for Real, but that Real side was pretty average, just think that the likes of Huntelaar were playing for that team. H really flourished at Bayern, but before 2013 there were many questiona about his status as a great footballer, since he was known as a player that could not decide big games. Back in 2007 selling Robben was far from a mistake, and If he wasn't missing penalties in semi final against Liverpool, perhaps we would have one more CL.  About Hazard, its different, he is getting enough playing time and the squad is limited, and he doesn't want to play here anymore. There is no reason why you should keep a player under those circunstances, specially when PSG is willing to break the bank. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 It is time to go from  CHELSEA .  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Azpinator said: Haha, yeah he flopped alright. He was the best player in their squad before Ronaldo joined., and technically was forced out after they signed Ronaldo and Kaka, they clearly wanted him as a squad player at most. It happened with Sneijder as well, who was more outspoken about his situation with Real after leaving. They just have the habit of selling and buying more frequently than other teams. Maybe you should support them. Flop is probably too strong a word, lets just say he wasn't exactly the type of player you build a team around. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 We all wish for and want him to stay but I feel his mind has been made up. There's just no way to explain how a player who was unplayable for much of last season can just fall off of a cliff the next unless his heart and mind simply aren't in it any longer. It'll be infuriating if next season we see him back and better than ever for a new club after being a disgrace this season and being arguably the primary reason Chelsea will be without CL football for at least a year. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted March 9, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, Pizy said: We all wish for and want him to stay but I feel his mind has been made up. There's just no way to explain how a player who was unplayable for much of last season can just fall off of a cliff the next unless his heart and mind simply aren't in it any longer. It'll be infuriating if next season we see him back and better than ever for a new club after being a disgrace this season and being arguably the primary reason Chelsea will be without CL football for at least a year. One player doesn't determine whether we qualify for the Champions League or not. We've got far bigger issues in this squad than just Hazard. People who are keen to blame him, are just desperate for a scapegoat, desperate to confirm their paranoia with him. Amblève., AWorriedChelseaFan, sLOVEnian Blue and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 One player doesn't determine whether we qualify for the Champions League or not. We've got far bigger issues in this squad than just Hazard. People who are keen to blame him, are just desperate for a scapegoat, desperate to confirm their paranoia with him. If he gets credited with winning us the title last year then sure his no goals in any prem games this year is reason to place some of the blame for this season at his feet as well? You can't credit him when things are going well and shield him when when they aren't. Essien19, EMK and Sir Mikel OBE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, Chelsea Legend 11 said: If he gets credited with winning us the title last year then sure his no goals in any prem games this year is reason to place some of the blame for this season at his feet as well? You can't credit him when things are going well and shield him when when they aren't. Placing SOME of the blame for the mess we're in is fine. But placing ALL? Oh no no. That's an absolute nonsense thing to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jason said: One player doesn't determine whether we qualify for the Champions League or not. We've got far bigger issues in this squad than just Hazard. People who are keen to blame him, are just desperate for a scapegoat, desperate to confirm their paranoia with him. That would be a fair point if he was contributing something. He has zero goals and isn't even helping our other players score many to make up for his own lack of productivity. If he had scored even 10 league goals and was his unplayable self all season in terms of his dribbling we'd be in the top 4 places in this weak season. If he gets the majority of the credit for winning us the title I think it's only fair he gets huge blame for being totally useless and causing us to crash and burn. Essien19 and EMK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Pizy said: That would be a fair point if he was contributing something. He has zero goals and isn't even helping our other players score many to make up for his own lack of productivity. If he had scored even 10 league goals and was his unplayable self all season in terms of his dribbling we'd be in the top 4 places in this weak season. If he gets the majority of the credit for winning us the title I think it's only fair he gets huge blame for being totally useless and causing us to crash and burn. No. We are failing right now because almost, if not all, of the players couldn't be bothered to turn up this season. Had at least half turned up, we wouldn't be in this mess and that's without including the rubbish Mourinho caused before he got the sack. You know that. This idea of placing most of the blame on Hazard just because he won us the title last season is silly. Sure, he has to carry some of the blame but don't we all agree he only really turned up from February onward to drag us over the line? Before that, he was only good in spades and it was Costa, Fabregas etc who put us in the commanding position at the top of the league. Don't see them getting vilified this badly. Azpinator and bethos1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jason said: No. We are failing right now because almost, if not all, of the players couldn't be bothered to turn up this season. Had at least half turned up, we wouldn't be in this mess and that's without including the rubbish Mourinho caused before he got the sack. You know that. This idea of placing most of the blame on Hazard just because he won us the title last season is silly. Sure, he has to carry some of the blame but don't we all agree he only really turned up from February onward to drag us over the line? Before that, he was only good in spades and it was Costa, Fabregas etc who put us in the commanding position at the top of the league. Don't see them getting vilified this badly. They started poorly but have been our two best players for a couple of months now. Nearly all of the players that were shit (Costa, Cesc, Ivanovic, Cahill) have dragged themselves out of their rut and got us up the table. Hazard and Matić (arguably the two most important players to our success last season) have still not been able to muster any sort of form. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 26 minutes ago, Pizy said: Â being arguably the primary reason Chelsea will be without CL football for at least a year. Blaming Eden for our poor season is as silly as blaming JT for losing the 2008 CL final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just now, Pizy said: They started poorly but have been our two best players for a couple of months now. Nearly all of the players that were shit (Costa, Cesc, Ivanovic, Cahill) have dragged themselves out of their rut and got us up the table. Hazard and Matić (arguably the two most important players to our success last season) have still not been able to muster any sort of form. So what if Costa, Fabregas etc have performed better than they did 2-3 months ago? They're still a major reason why we are where we are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Azpinator said: Blaming Eden for our poor season is as silly as blaming JT for losing the 2008 CL final. Not 100% obviously. Our best player being invisible for an entire season deserves a huge amount of blame. chelseafan26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Why are we in this mess? Quite simple, the two best players of our squad last season, Hazard and Matic, have become the worst players in the team. I bet this wouldn't have happened if we had a manager capable of squad rotation. Mourinho destroyed both players by playing them too much, utilising the most talented player in the club's history as a fullback. Who knows if Hazard will ever recover from the constant injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jason said: So what if Costa, Fabregas etc have performed better than they did 2-3 months ago? They're still a major reason why we are where we are right now. By turining their own seasons around and showing heart, passion, and will to make our season more respectable the likes of Costa, Cesc, and Willian are at least showing they care a bit. Just look at Costa after he scored today and how he's been since José left. It's like he's got a fire under his ass and is desperate to make things right. The attitude and lack of any kind of fight are what's frustrating me with Eden. Looks like he wants the season over more than the fans do. Essien19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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