BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 How to know when we sign Hulk? Well the forum will crash for an hour atleast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 How to know when we sign Hulk? Well the forum will crash for an hour atleast And then all the bitterness/hate/envy at Chelsea and asking about FFP rule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Don't really understand why Chelsea allow themselves to be held ransom to over Porto. Okay fine someone else might snap him up, but with the amount we've spent already (if, for example, Oscar would come for the sum being thrown around) we're treading a tight line with our expenses. We've added a number of wingers now, surely it's time for the club to forget about Hulk and find cheaper targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 And then all the bitterness/hate/envy at Chelsea and asking about FFP rule! Thats something you dont ask CL champions. FFP doesnt exist for us this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thats something you dont ask CL champions. FFP doesnt exist for us this summer Well If I remember Gourlay said that winning the CL gave us like 100 million pounds...and then don't forget some of the sponsors we recently got in certain things.If we where to spend this money on Hulk and Oscar, I don't think we would all that bad, giving that even with all the losses we had last season we where close to break even for FFP standards....and then not to mention that the first couple of monitoring period you are allowed to have a certain amount of losses.So is just more envy/hatred from the uneducated breed of people to throw around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If we where to spend this money on Hulk and Oscar, I don't think we would all that bad, giving that even with all the losses we had last season we where close to break even for FFP standards....and then not to mention that the first couple of monitoring period you are allowed to have a certain amount of losses.Indeed. FFP takes into account 'future years'. You can still make losses but you need to show that your club is on the right track. A lot of people are getting too worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hope we still get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Could be a dream teamDude they made a thread for this kind of post. http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/11893-future-chelsea-team/page__st__234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If we don't get him then I won't be sad at all.Ramires did a fine job for us as a right winger and Sturridge could always fill up the role if Ramires is injured or maybe Marin could take over.Plus anyways,we will be looking at other alternatives which will be much cheaper and so therefore I guess there is nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If we don't get him then I won't be sad at all.Ramires did a fine job for us as a right winger and Sturridge could always fill up the role if Ramires is injured or maybe Marin could take over.Plus anyways,we will be looking at other alternatives which will be much cheaper and so therefore I guess there is nothing to worry about.True but hulks physicality, versatility, skill would make more of an improvement/impact than all those you listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 True but hulks physicality, versatility, skill would make more of an improvement/impact than all those you listedYes but Porto are blocking the move and there is nothing we can do about except pay more than 40m which is highly inadvisable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes but Porto are blocking the move and there is nothing we can do about except pay more than 40m which is highly inadvisableAgreed anything over 40 million pounds would be totally ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 The Chelsea squad already has a Brazilian flavour, in the form of Ramires, David Luiz and Lucas Piazon, and Abramovich could add to it further with his pursuit of Hulk, the Porto striker. A £38m fee has been agreed in principle between the clubs but there are complications related to Hulk's third party ownership, and over who will pay the monies owing to his investors.http://www.guardian....brazil-transfer Hulk focused on Brazil Striker denies fresh rumours of talks with Chelseahttp://www1.skysport...r.it&utm_medium"I haven't talked to anyone. As everyone knows, I don't follow negotiations closely as that will make me lose my focus. I let my agent deal with that stuff."http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1123936?cc=4716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Complications with the third party ownership? Split the bill down the middle and be gone with them.Edit: fuck that, 45 mil is far too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisho 33 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ya read a story like this earlier this week. So the problem is according english FA rules porto have to buy these thirdy party rights of hulk so they can have full ownership of him in order to sell him to us. If i remember correctley its comes to under 7 mil. Porto want 38 mil out of the deal and want us to pay for the aquisition of the third party ownership of hulk which gives us the grand total of 45m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I know its very optimistic but why do I have the feeling that the only reason Hulk and Oscar are not official signings yet is because there will be olympic games here in London and they will sign deal right after them. The games are most important for Oscar and even more for Hulk, with good performance, he would get standard place and more chances to play in WC 2014, Oscar too. Sure they dont want to get distracted by press if it would be already official deal. Its enough for them just to know they will play here, it doesnt matter if it is offical or not. All these rumours just couldnt be wrong, Hulk said he wants to play for us (remember that Twitter flirt with Chelsea), it was almost done deal and then nothing. Just some speculation that fee was not accepted...And since Hulk is number one priority, it would be perfect to announce him and Oscar together after olympics. After all, they wouldnt play in preseason anyway, since olympic games are in same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I know its very optimistic but why do I have the feeling that the only reason Hulk and Oscar are not official signings yet is because there will be olympic games here in London and they will sign deal right after them. The games are most important for Oscar and even more for Hulk, with good performance, he would get standard place and more chances to play in WC 2014, Oscar too. Sure they dont want to get distracted by press if it would be already official deal. Its enough for them just to know they will play here, it doesnt matter if it is offical or not.All these rumours just couldnt be wrong, Hulk said he wants to play for us (remember that Twitter flirt with Chelsea), it was almost done deal and then nothing. Just some speculation that fee was not accepted...And since Hulk is number one priority, it would be perfect to announce him and Oscar together after olympics. After all, they wouldnt play in preseason anyway, since olympic games are in same time.Very Optimistic imo. We had confirmed bids for Moses and Andre Schurrle last week which shows that the board are getting back up plans ready. I don't think the Hulk deal is done yet. Maybe the third party regulations are hindering the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_swaggin_96 96 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Very Optimistic imo. We had confirmed bids for Moses and Andre Schurrle last week which shows that the board are getting back up plans ready. I don't think the Hulk deal is done yet. Maybe the third party regulations are hindering the dealso if i understand, in coporate world, you make bids like this ready knowing they will get rejected just to tempt your first customer to come to you without any hassle schurrle - bid = DECOY ?not sure about Moses... but very smart tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 so if i understand, in coporate world, you make bids like this ready knowing they will get rejected just to tempt your first customer to come to you without any hassleschurrle - bid = DECOY ?not sure about Moses... but very smart tacticscommon sense and a sense of realism dictates we have hit a snag with the 3rd party regulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hulk is too much expensive , with 40M you could have a quality RB and a good winger , you could spend this money on Moutinho , or Cabaye who is quite good , or on Oscar ! We need more a midfielder than a right winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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